UP until 3 years ago I was in pretty good shape. For 9 years I was at a job where I was constantly moving and lifting heavy things. Now I have a sit down job which I feel has been one of the problems of my weight gain. Now I have to head out by 6:30 to get to work by 8 and I get off at 4:30 which brings me home close to 6pm. By the time I get home, I have house stuff to do, help my bf cook dinner, or help cut grass, or do laundry. Its always something. I tried exercising after work, but then that brings me to the 8'oclock hour to start making dinner which I cannot stand to eat that late. I get most of my activity on the weekends and Monday. My bf is a great cook, and we always try to cook healthy. Lots of veggies, turkey, chicken or fish. Now where I work is a very small office. I have a hard time sitting still but I can only go to and from the bathroom. Most of the time I will go to the bathroom alot and pretend Im using it, but I am really in there doing arm raises, or squats or lunges. Just something to help me get a little exercise in . But I am gaining weight like crazy. I have gained 15lbs in 3 years. Now I am getting depressed. I belong to a gym once, but I just cannot afford that anymore and had to cancell. My favriot things to do is bike riding and walking. Are there any office workers who sit all day have any advice for what I can do during the day. Please keep in mind, there are 2 other people in this office with me and they need there piece and quiet. We do not have doors on our rooms so there is no privacy. Help, I need advice.

Walk at lunch.

I'll send Warnutz over there naked and you can chase him around and try to catch him.

I am having the exact same problem..I went from being a nurse's assistant to a desk job...I'm gaining more weight then I did in college! My office has a small room where they have a few cardio machines..I go in there in my lunch break to excersise a little..if you dont have that a walk at lunch time would help...if your building has steps, you could walk up and down them...stuff like that..it is hard and I feel for you...the only thing I have ever had success with..even more so than excersising on my lunch break..is atkins..i lost 7 pounds in 4 days..but it is so hard to stick with...if you find something that works let me know! a job with almost complete inactivity is very hard to work against

I'll send Warnutz over there naked and you can chase him around and try to catch him.
This suggestions works :yay:..... trust me :really:

Also a coworker of mine sits on one of those big workout balls all day..and she swears by it..i may try it myself...

Walk at lunch.
I am not allowed to leave the office other wise I would do that too.

I am not allowed to leave the office other wise I would do that too.

Your not allowed to leave your office during your lunch break? What the hell kind of place do you work at?

This suggestions works :yay:..... trust me :really:
Ok forgive me but what is a warnutz?

Eat more meals. Go for 5-6 small meals a day and whatever you do DO NOT SKIP BREAKFAST!

Breakfast
snack (low carb snack)
Lunch
1-2 small snacks during the afternoon
Dinner

Lower your carb intake, increase your fiber and google "catabolic foods" use those for your snack. Try to work in 30-60 minutes of exercise every day. My wife is doing a program called 10 minute trainer from Beach Body (the P90X people) it is working pretty good for her without sticking to a strict diet and as the name implies it only takes 10 minutes per workout but they suggest doing 2-3 routines a day but you can spread them out over the day.

I am not allowed to leave the office other wise I would do that too.

Not allowed?

Your not allowed to leave your office during your lunch break? What the hell kind of place do you work at?
I work for a construction company and my boss only wants me to answer the phones and I am afraid to walk around here. Im in PG county, and lets face it, probably not safe. Where i used to work, I knew just about everyone around town so I felt safe and would actually walk sometimes to work. This sucks. Im getting old and FAT.

Ok forgive me but what is a warnutz?

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Eat more meals. Go for 5-6 small meals a day and whatever you do DO NOT SKIP BREAKFAST!

Breakfast
snack (low carb snack)
Lunch
1-2 small snacks during the afternoon
Dinner

Lower your carb intake, increase your fiber and google "catabolic foods" use those for your snack. Try to work in 30-60 minutes of exercise every day. My wife is doing a program called 10 minute trainer from Beach Body (the P90X people) it is working pretty good for her without sticking to a strict diet and as the name implies it only takes 10 minutes per workout but they suggest doing 2-3 routines a day but you can spread them out over the day.
I will definately check into this. I also tried getting up at 4 am and exercising but I found myself falling asleep at the wheel. I really think that the 4 am thing would be the best thing for me, but I need to figure out what I can do to stay awake while driving to work. I ve tried going to sleep earlier but that just makes me even more tired. Any suggestions on what I can do to utilize the 4 am schedule?

I will definately check into this. I also tried getting up at 4 am and exercising but I found myself falling asleep at the wheel. I really think that the 4 am thing would be the best thing for me, but I need to figure out what I can do to stay awake while driving to work. I ve tried going to sleep earlier but that just makes me even more tired. Any suggestions on what I can do to utilize the 4 am schedule?

Meth?

Meth?
Oh no thats no good. Seriously......

Oh no thats no good. Seriously......

Bud Lime. :yay:

Oh no thats no good. Seriously......
Im to google now.... thank you all for your advice. I am going to beat this FAT A-- of mine. I refuse to wear plus size clothes. I know I am heading in that direction, so I have to stay on top of this. I am open to anymore suggestions if you have any.

Thanks

Im to google now.... thank you all for your advice. I am going to beat this FAT A-- of mine. I refuse to wear plus size clothes. I know I am heading in that direction, so I have to stay on top of this. I am open to anymore suggestions if you have any.

Thanks

Easy there bud, you're starting to talk to youself...:eyebrow:

I will definately check into this. I also tried getting up at 4 am and exercising but I found myself falling asleep at the wheel. I really think that the 4 am thing would be the best thing for me, but I need to figure out what I can do to stay awake while driving to work. I ve tried going to sleep earlier but that just makes me even more tired. Any suggestions on what I can do to utilize the 4 am schedule?
You still have to allow a good chunk of time for sleep. Are you really in a position to hit the bed at 9 p.m. each night?

Oh no thats no good. Seriously......

:killingme j/k

The 4 am routine is something you have to train your body to do. After a week or two you'll get in the groove.

Eating more meals is supposed to increase your metabolism Your body learns that you will be eating again soon so it burns the fat in the food first and uses the nutrients. When you are eating 2-3 times a day your body stores the fat because it goes into a feast or famine mode.

Do not buy into the colon cleanse hype, just eat properly with an increase in your fiber intake. Instead of sodas or flavored water, try some green tea. Either brew it yourself at home, buy the packets or look for Lipton or Arizona diet green tea (cheaper to brew or use the packets). ZERO calories and green tea is supposed to be an appetite suppressant.

Also a coworker of mine sits on one of those big workout balls all day..and she swears by it..i may try it myself...

I do that! Love it!

I'll send Warnutz over there naked and you can chase him around and try to catch him.

Send him here. I'm getting a spare tire.

:killingme j/k

The 4 am routine is something you have to train your body to do. After a week or two you'll get in the groove.

Eating more meals is supposed to increase your metabolism Your body learns that you will be eating again soon so it burns the fat in the food first and uses the nutrients. When you are eating 2-3 times a day your body stores the fat because it goes into a feast or famine mode.

Do not buy into the colon cleanse hype, just eat properly with an increase in your fiber intake. Instead of sodas or flavored water, try some green tea. Either brew it yourself at home, buy the packets or look for Lipton or Arizona diet green tea (cheaper to brew or use the packets). ZERO calories and green tea is supposed to be an appetite suppressant.
ok, so if I try the 4 am thing, should I eat before or after working out?

ok, so if I try the 4 am thing, should I eat before or after working out?

Both...

Gotta read this whole thread though...

Meth?

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

Both...

Gotta read this whole thread though...
Ok, so what should I eat before and then after and should there be a time frame of doing so?

UP until 3 years ago I was in pretty good shape. For 9 years I was at a job where I was constantly moving and lifting heavy things. Now I have a sit down job which I feel has been one of the problems of my weight gain. Now I have to head out by 6:30 to get to work by 8 and I get off at 4:30 which brings me home close to 6pm. By the time I get home, I have house stuff to do, help my bf cook dinner, or help cut grass, or do laundry. Its always something. I tried exercising after work, but then that brings me to the 8'oclock hour to start making dinner which I cannot stand to eat that late. I get most of my activity on the weekends and Monday. My bf is a great cook, and we always try to cook healthy. Lots of veggies, turkey, chicken or fish. Now where I work is a very small office. I have a hard time sitting still but I can only go to and from the bathroom. Most of the time I will go to the bathroom alot and pretend Im using it, but I am really in there doing arm raises, or squats or lunges. Just something to help me get a little exercise in . But I am gaining weight like crazy. I have gained 15lbs in 3 years. Now I am getting depressed. I belong to a gym once, but I just cannot afford that anymore and had to cancell. My favriot things to do is bike riding and walking. Are there any office workers who sit all day have any advice for what I can do during the day. Please keep in mind, there are 2 other people in this office with me and they need there piece and quiet. We do not have doors on our rooms so there is no privacy. Help, I need advice.

Invest in some tupperware/ziploc storage pieces and prep your meals ahead of time. You should eat a smaller meal every 2-3 hours (probably every 3 hours if you're not getting enough physical activity) which could consist of:

3 boiled eggs (toss out the yolks) & 1/2 cup of oatmeal or cream of wheat

Apple slices with some peanut butter

4oz of chicken, fish or steak with some veggies and a 1/2 cup of brown rice

etc...


You may want to invest in some protein powder, but that's better suited for first thing when you wake up or right after working out.

Anyway, by prepping your meals ahead of time (you could always do it for dinner too), you can heat up dinner fairly quickly and have the rest of the evening to take care of things or go for a walk or whatever.

Ok, so what should I eat before and then after and should there be a time frame of doing so?

Pre-Workout (1-2 hours prior to working out):

4oz chicken, steak or fish with some veggies and a small portion of carbs


Post-Workout (within 45 minutes of finishing your workout): Whey protein shake (if you have access), if you can't get a shake, try protein that breaks down quickly - eggs or maybe some sliced turkey or something.

UP until 3 years ago I was in pretty good shape. For 9 years I was at a job where I was constantly moving and lifting heavy things. Now I have a sit down job which I feel has been one of the problems of my weight gain. Now I have to head out by 6:30 to get to work by 8 and I get off at 4:30 which brings me home close to 6pm. By the time I get home, I have house stuff to do, help my bf cook dinner, or help cut grass, or do laundry. Its always something. I tried exercising after work, but then that brings me to the 8'oclock hour to start making dinner which I cannot stand to eat that late. I get most of my activity on the weekends and Monday. My bf is a great cook, and we always try to cook healthy. Lots of veggies, turkey, chicken or fish. Now where I work is a very small office. I have a hard time sitting still but I can only go to and from the bathroom. Most of the time I will go to the bathroom alot and pretend Im using it, but I am really in there doing arm raises, or squats or lunges. Just something to help me get a little exercise in . But I am gaining weight like crazy. I have gained 15lbs in 3 years. Now I am getting depressed. I belong to a gym once, but I just cannot afford that anymore and had to cancell. My favriot things to do is bike riding and walking. Are there any office workers who sit all day have any advice for what I can do during the day. Please keep in mind, there are 2 other people in this office with me and they need there piece and quiet. We do not have doors on our rooms so there is no privacy. Help, I need advice.


Wii Active. I'm down 8 lbs. Oh and don't eat anything.

Pre-Workout (1-2 hours prior to working out):

4oz chicken, steak or fish with some veggies and a small portion of carbs


Post-Workout (within 45 minutes of finishing your workout): Whey protein shake (if you have access), if you can't get a shake, try protein that breaks down quickly - eggs or maybe some sliced turkey or something.
Im confused now. Before working out at 4 am, what should I eat?

Im confused now. Before working out at 4 am, what should I eat?

Ooooh... 4am workout... Hmmm...

1/2 cup of oatmeal or cream of wheat and 4oz of chicken, fish or steak... or 6-8 egg whites.

Wii Active. I'm down 8 lbs. Oh and don't eat anything.
Really does it work. I tried the wii fitness and that thing sucked. So I was afraid to try the active. I do love my dance revolution, baseball and boxing. What do you mean, do not eat at all?

Ooooh... 4am workout... Hmmm...

1/2 cup of oatmeal or cream of wheat and 4oz of chicken, fish or steak... or 6-8 egg whites.

I don't think they are looking to bulge like you do :shrug:

I don't think they are looking to bulge like you do :shrug:

:eyebrow:

I know, but if the caloric intake is less than what the body is burning, then there should be some fat loss... unless there's a lot of heavy lifting going on there won't be much muscle gained, mostly toning. 20 minutes of weight training and 40 minutes of cardio... that sort of scheme.

Ooooh... 4am workout... Hmmm...

1/2 cup of oatmeal or cream of wheat and 4oz of chicken, fish or steak... or 6-8 egg whites.
Wow I feel stuffed just ready that. I am going to try this starting on Tuesday. I will be away and my schedule will be all jacked up. So when I get home on Monday night, I will go to bed early and start my 4 am training. Boy I hope I can dragg these hips out of the bed. I have a spin cycle, but I have not been able to find any videos that I like. Spinning kept me in shape also. Lots of fun if you have the right person to yell at you to go faster. I need a Jillian to be mean to me.

Pre-Workout (1-2 hours prior to working out):

4oz chicken, steak or fish with some veggies and a small portion of carbs


Post-Workout (within 45 minutes of finishing your workout): Whey protein shake (if you have access), if you can't get a shake, try protein that breaks down quickly - eggs or maybe some sliced turkey or something.

:yikes: She'd have to get up at 2am to workout at 4am to leave for work at 6:30am to get to work by 8am to work all day with no break to leave by 4pm to get home by 6:30pm to get house duties done, dinner cooked, watch tv, get some nookie to be in bed by 9pm to get up by 2am.

:yikes: She'd have to get up at 2am to workout at 4am to leave for work at 6:30am to get to work by 8am to work all day with no break to leave by 4pm to get home by 6:30pm to get house duties done, dinner cooked, watch tv, get some nookie to be in bed by 9pm to get up by 2am.

I didn't read the entire thread. :doh:


:roflmao:

:yikes: She'd have to get up at 2am to workout at 4am to leave for work at 6:30am to get to work by 8am to work all day with no break to leave by 4pm to get home by 6:30pm to get house duties done, dinner cooked, watch tv, get some nookie to be in bed by 9pm to get up by 2am.
Well I will have to take some of that out of my schedule. Hhhhmmmmm :confused:

I don't think they are looking to bulge like you do :shrug:


Psssst...that's a custom posing sock. :coffee:

Psssst...that's a custom posing socki. :coffee:

:blushing:

Psssst...that's a custom posing sock. :coffee:

You made it for him didntcha?

You made it for him didntcha?

:dance:

:dance:

:lmao: You're so dayum cute!!!

Im to google now.... thank you all for your advice. I am going to beat this FAT A-- of mine. I refuse to wear plus size clothes. I know I am heading in that direction, so I have to stay on top of this. I am open to anymore suggestions if you have any.

Thanks

Its easy, cut out all bread, pasta, white flour, sugar, high sugar veggies, high sugar fruits (natural sugar)....

eat meats, green veggies, cheeses,nuts, berries! supplement with protein shakes... (make your own from whey protein w/o added sugars..

Oh and watch your yogurt most are loaded with sugar!


<---------------- down 53 lbs since March!

You say you like walking then idk go for a walk before work or after while your husband cooks? If you dont want to go alone than get him to go with u im sure he will :). I'm sure you can work something out.

Its easy, cut out all bread, pasta, white flour, sugar, high sugar veggies, high sugar fruits (natural sugar)....

eat meats, green veggies, cheeses,nuts, berries! supplement with protein shakes... (make your own from whey protein w/o added sugars..

Oh and watch your yogurt most are loaded with sugar!


<---------------- down 53 lbs since March!

:clap: whoa! Outstanding!

What is this "whey protein"? Can't I get the protein I need with certain meats & nuts?

Congratulations to you...that's AWESOME! :yahoo:

Its easy, cut out all bread, pasta, white flour, sugar, high sugar veggies, high sugar fruits (natural sugar)....

eat meats, green veggies, cheeses,nuts, berries! supplement with protein shakes... (make your own from whey protein w/o added sugars..

Oh and watch your yogurt most are loaded with sugar!


<---------------- down 53 lbs since March!
what kinds of green veggies do you eat? I love my veggies but I know some are high in carbs.

Just put the fork down.......:yay:

Just put the fork down.......:yay:

If the answer were that simple then everyone would be naturally thin. Its all about metabolism... and the type you inherited. I am sure you have seen people who can eat junk food all day and stay thin... others fight at keeping their weight down and may only eat a small amount of food each day.


its not just about control... its also genetics! and taking the steps to change the metabolism you have.

:clap: whoa! Outstanding!

What is this "whey protein"? Can't I get the protein I need with certain meats & nuts?

Congratulations to you...that's AWESOME! :yahoo:

thanks!

Whey is a by product of milk when it is pasturized or when milk is curdled, or in the making of cheese, the whey protein powder provides @ 23 grams of protein per serving with minimal fat grams or carbs oh and only 120 calories.

There are also protein powders that are soy based also. I get mine at GNC.

You can get your protein from meats and nuts, but nuts are high in calorie and to get the correct amounts of protein per day you would need to eat a lot of food. Tuna is good for protein @ 40 grams for 5 oz.

Protein, makes you feel full longer and helps curb cravings for carbs, also aids in burning fat from the body by increasing your lean muscle-

An excellent book on protein is "Protein Power" by Dr Michael Eades.

what kinds of green veggies do you eat? I love my veggies but I know some are high in carbs.

green beans, spinach, celery, broccoli, cabbage (really good stir fried) asparagus, lettuce.

My favorite thing for dinner is to make a pizza using the whole wheat pitas as the crust, you can find a low sugar sauce and use the lower fat cheese, I also use a small amount of pepperoni slices, and pile up the mushrooms, peppers and onions.. I get the bag with 6 pitas and make them up and freeze them, then you can just pop them in the toaster oven for @ 15 min..

Walmart had some pitas "Joseph's" that ran @ 5 carbs..

If the answer were that simple then everyone would be naturally thin. Its all about metabolism... and the type you inherited. I am sure you have seen people who can eat junk food all day and stay thin... others fight at keeping their weight down and may only eat a small amount of food each day.


its not just about control... its also genetics! and taking the steps to change the metabolism you have.
That is very good info for me to know. All the veggies you mentioned are my favriots except mushrooms. EEwwww, I hate the texture. Im on a mission to lose this weight. Please let me know about other low carb meals and snacks that you use.

If the answer were that simple then everyone would be naturally thin. Its all about metabolism... and the type you inherited. I am sure you have seen people who can eat junk food all day and stay thin... others fight at keeping their weight down and may only eat a small amount of food each day.


its not just about control... its also genetics! and taking the steps to change the metabolism you have.

:cds:.....,it was a joke...........and I agree on metabolism and genetics.............:yay:

:cds:.....,it was a joke...........and I agree on metabolism and genetics.............:yay:

:huggy: ... LOL ok if u were just joking....

I have a co-worker who never picks up weight, today she asked me to go by kfc for her... I told her I probably gained 3 lbs from the fumes! :killingme

That is very good info for me to know. All the veggies you mentioned are my favriots except mushrooms. EEwwww, I hate the texture. Im on a mission to lose this weight. Please let me know about other low carb meals and snacks that you use.

Basically its just omitting bread,sugar, white flour, pasta, cereal,and any high sugar fruits and veggies, and no potatoes... once you have lost the weight you can start adding back in whole wheat flours and breads

Im one of those people who could eat the same thing every day lol and a lot times I do..

I have a shake w/ 4 oz low sugar yogurt and 2 scoops of protein powder mixed with @ 2 cups of water for breakfast- (cuz I am too lazy to make breakfast)

lunch is a can of tuna w/ small amount of the low cholesterol mayo and sugar free bread & butter pickles diced in it. (in a container- no bread or crackers)

6 strawberries with splenda, a snack size sugar free applesauce (though I rotate the applesauce with 4 oz yogurt or celery sticks with pb or cream cheese with chives, sugar free jello etc, cottage cheese)


stick with berries as your fruit choices

I have a snack between breakfast & lunch of a cheese stick

and at dinner I just have meat or fish and a veggie or my wheat pita pizza

You can also eat out and stay on program, At Salas I had a shrimp, onion and pepper quesadilla- just leave the tortilla or shell behind.

if you get a cheeseburger, eat the burger and pitch the bun.
sandwich- toss the bread.

its low carb- high protein, but ya gotta read up and learn which foods are full of sugars- a lot of the low-fat foods are loaded with sugar.

If you cut out the carbs ... the weight falls off
and walking is great exercise.. walk at lunch or park far away at work.

and drink lots of water!

Basically its just omitting bread,sugar, white flour, pasta, cereal,and any high sugar fruits and veggies, and no potatoes... once you have lost the weight you can start adding back in whole wheat flours and breads

Im one of those people who could eat the same thing every day lol and a lot times I do..

I have a shake w/ 4 oz low sugar yogurt and 2 scoops of protein powder mixed with @ 2 cups of water for breakfast- (cuz I am too lazy to make breakfast)

lunch is a can of tuna w/ small amount of the low cholesterol mayo and sugar free bread & butter pickles diced in it. (in a container- no bread or crackers)

6 strawberries with splenda, a snack size sugar free applesauce (though I rotate the applesauce with 4 oz yogurt or celery sticks with pb or cream cheese with chives, sugar free jello etc, cottage cheese)


stick with berries as your fruit choices

I have a snack between breakfast & lunch of a cheese stick

and at dinner I just have meat or fish and a veggie or my wheat pita pizza

You can also eat out and stay on program, At Salas I had a shrimp, onion and pepper quesadilla- just leave the tortilla or shell behind.

if you get a cheeseburger, eat the burger and pitch the bun.
sandwich- toss the bread.

its low carb- high protein, but ya gotta read up and learn which foods are full of sugars- a lot of the low-fat foods are loaded with sugar.

If you cut out the carbs ... the weight falls off
and walking is great exercise.. walk at lunch or park far away at work.

and drink lots of water!
I started the low carb thing, Its hard, because I love the produce stands. I can eat so much fruit like its going out of style which it will soon. I love my cantalopes, white peaches, bananas, watermelon and veggies, I love spinach, broc, coliflower, bell peppers, onions, green beans, cucumbers, and tomatoes. I know I shouldn't be eating as much of it as I do. The summer time is real bad for me because I love the fresh produce. Yesturday I had catfish and cucumbers for lunch and I was hungry like an hour later. What do I do about that hunger. Today, I had lunch meat wrapped in cheese for lunch. What brand of yogurts do you eat? Oh I also started doing step which I really love. I do appreciate all of your helpful hints. Please keep them coming.

If the answer were that simple then everyone would be naturally thin. Its all about metabolism... and the type you inherited. I am sure you have seen people who can eat junk food all day and stay thin... others fight at keeping their weight down and may only eat a small amount of food each day.


its not just about control... its also genetics! and taking the steps to change the metabolism you have.

:bs::bs::bs:

I have to call it on this one. Please take no offense but I hate hearing people being victims of their genetics/metabolism. Horsecrap.

It is a very, and I mean VERY, small percentage of persons who have genetic disorders that lead themselves to obesity.

People are victims of being lazy and let psychological barriers prevent them from doing the right things.

Get up off your @ss and move! Make better food choices. Eat less. Move more!

:bs::bs::bs:

I have to call it on this one. Please take no offense but I hate hearing people being victims of their genetics/metabolism. Horsecrap.

It is a very, and I mean VERY, small percentage of persons who have genetic disorders that lead themselves to obesity.

People are victims of being lazy and let psychological barriers prevent them from doing the right things.

Get up off your @ss and move! Make better food choices. Eat less. Move more!

sorry, but you are wrong. there are countless genes that control weight in humans, and just as there are natural variations in other attributes caused by genes, weight is no different. This is by no means an excuse, nor does it mean that when you put in the hard work you wont see results. So I agree that is is annoying to see it used as in excuse...but it is harder for some to lose weight than others, harder for some to reduce their food intake than others, people even have differing levels of insulin usage, controlled by a gene that may make a difference in weight. Though it is not the whole story I wouldn't ignore the role of genetics...
Genes Stacked Against Weight Loss? (http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20080118/genes-stacked-against-weight-loss?src=RSS_PUBLIC)

sorry, but you are wrong. there are countless genes that control weight in humans, and just as there are natural variations in other attributes caused by genes, weight is no different. This is by no means an excuse, nor does it mean that when you put in the hard work you wont see results. So I agree that is is annoying to see it used as in excuse...but it is harder for some to lose weight than others, harder for some to reduce their food intake than others, people even have differing levels of insulin usage, controlled by a gene that may make a difference in weight. Though it is not the whole story I wouldn't ignore the role of genetics...
Genes Stacked Against Weight Loss? (http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20080118/genes-stacked-against-weight-loss?src=RSS_PUBLIC)

How am I wrong? The article you use to support your argument justifies genes having a prediposition for controlling weight gain/weight loss (in mice). How does that affect people shoveling high amounts of calories, crap food, sedentary lifestyles, and being a non-exerciser?

It is easy to see the human body's ability to put on weight. The consequence to getting fat? A God-damn hard time getting it off. People know how they got fat and they know how to get rid of it. They just are unwilling to do the hard work.

That seems to me to be more of a pyschological problem than a genetic one.

How am I wrong? The article you use to support your argument justifies genes having a prediposition for controlling weight gain/weight loss (in mice). How does that affect people shoveling high amounts of calories, crap food, sedentary lifestyles, and being a non-exerciser?

It is easy to see the human body's ability to put on weight. The consequence to getting fat? A God-damn hard time getting it off. People know how they got fat and they know how to get rid of it. They just are unwilling to do the hard work.

That seems to me to be more of a pyschological problem than a genetic one.

then explain how a person who is reed thin.. never exercises-- eats mcdonalds and crap never gains an ounce??


I'm not saying that you can stuff your face and lay around- what I am saying is that people have different metabolisms- true you can change that with diet and exercise but for some its always a struggle..

while for others they can eat whatever...



I think its a combo of both theories- but there must be a genetic link.

You can not dispute the research regarding the effects of neuro-transmitters and serotonin re-uptake on food intake ie: THE MOUSE EXPERIMENTS

but again exercise also effects the serotonin levels of the body- "runners high" which tells the brain the stomach isnt hungry..

I think there is a lot to be learned about the genetic links to overweight

I started the low carb thing, Its hard, because I love the produce stands. I can eat so much fruit like its going out of style which it will soon. I love my cantalopes, white peaches, bananas, watermelon and veggies, I love spinach, broc, coliflower, bell peppers, onions, green beans, cucumbers, and tomatoes. I know I shouldn't be eating as much of it as I do. The summer time is real bad for me because I love the fresh produce. Yesturday I had catfish and cucumbers for lunch and I was hungry like an hour later. What do I do about that hunger. Today, I had lunch meat wrapped in cheese for lunch. What brand of yogurts do you eat? Oh I also started doing step which I really love. I do appreciate all of your helpful hints. Please keep them coming.

when u are starting to correct your eating habits, you get back to eating when you are truly hungry- I think when people eat out of boredom they forget what being hungry feels like- and its amazing how small a real "portion" is.

I read an article that said a lot of times when we think we are hungry- we really are just thirsty

I would say have a small serving of cheese or nuts when u get hungry- just a small amount. as time goes on your body will begin to adjust to less food and you will be satisfied with less... just take 1 day at a time and commit to eating healthy "for today" and you wont get fustrated.

not sure what u are eating for breakfast- but you need to get in a high protein breakfast.

if there is something unhealthy that you are craving- pick 1 day of the week and say I can have _____ on saturday .........if I really want it. you will be amazed that by saturday you really don't want it anymore---- but if you still want it-- get it! have one or two bites and throw the rest in the trash!!!

but you cant have anything off program again till that day rolls around again...


yogurt= dannon lite & fit 4oz 60 calories 10 carbs
breyers has a low sugar one also

oh and the sugar free applesauce in flavors is good also, berry, peach etc @ 15 carbs tho & and comes in an individual package

Just going to put this out there but after many searches of different programs I have found that Atkins has a low carb, low sugar program that is available online and it's free. You can download the acceptable foods list and carb counter list right to your desktop. They also have a progress tracking center where you can track your progress and daily meals as well as a recipe section for almost any kind of meal you are having. It might be something that would work for you.

I can see myself posting this in a few years.

"I need advice guys....I'm getting fat"

I can see myself posting this in a few years.

"I need advice guys....I'm getting fat"

Grin on a watermelon doesn't have the same ring as grin on a stick, though... :ohwell:

then explain how a person who is reed thin.. never exercises-- eats mcdonalds and crap never gains an ounce??

I've got to agree with Big Fatty. I've known plenty of people who "never seem to gain an ounce", but guess what? It caught up with them! Those I knew years ago who I was so jealous of are now certainly plump, if not fat. On the other hand I have maintained a very good, slim figure, but I can tell you it is NOT my metabolism, because if I start eating all that I want I get thicker and thicker.
I suggest that you accept that the weight will come off slowly. If you want to make a permanent change in eating habits you should make one elimination, or change, at a time.
For me, I first cut out my Cheez Its at night. I was a ritual for me that was super hard to give up, but I did it. Then I changed from my bread and cheese for breakfast (my favorite thing in the world!) to Special K. Lunch found me eliminating mayo from my sandwiches and replacing it with hot chili sauce; I also make sure to throw in spinach or tomatoes when they are on hand. Dinner is the same as my family, but I get a small sandwich plate instead of a big dinner plate. No doubt I am eating waaaayyyy less!
This was what I did without even exercising, when I did start exercising I needed a bit more bulk, so breakfast changed to seasonal fruit: berries, bananas, apples, etc, sprinkled with granola and poured Kefir on top.
I allow myself nachos a couple days a week, but I use beans, corn and salsa, but no meat. I choose either sour cream or cheese, but never both, too fatty.
No fast food, ever, ever, ever! You're better off with a pb and j than a salad from McDonalds.
Lastly, water, water, water.
I have seven children, but you would never know by looking at me (weight wise). But, as I said, it is a fight every day to make good choices, but that is a choice only I can make.

then explain how a person who is reed thin.. never exercises-- eats mcdonalds and crap never gains an ounce??


I'm not saying that you can stuff your face and lay around- what I am saying is that people have different metabolisms- true you can change that with diet and exercise but for some its always a struggle..

while for others they can eat whatever...



I think its a combo of both theories- but there must be a genetic link.

You can not dispute the research regarding the effects of neuro-transmitters and serotonin re-uptake on food intake ie: THE MOUSE EXPERIMENTS

but again exercise also effects the serotonin levels of the body- "runners high" which tells the brain the stomach isnt hungry..

I think there is a lot to be learned about the genetic links to overweight

Please see Libby's response to you. She said it well. And, I will add, made changes for the better.

I stand firm in my belief here. People are not fat due to gentics. They are fat because of choices they make. The human body is an amazing thing. We take it for granted though.

All this research into genetic links and WHAT NOT really seems irrelavent to me. Almost like fat people are looking for an "out" to being fat. As if they are hoping to find an easier way to lose weight. Pills, surgery, etc. isn't enough?

What happened to working for it? Libby decided she was important and corrected her poor habits. Why can't people see the logic in this?

I was fat because I ate too much, ate unhealthy items, and didn't get enough exercise. No surprise there.

High protein, low carb works best for me. :yay:

I was fat because I ate too much, ate unhealthy items, and didn't get enough exercise. No surprise there.

High protein, low carb works best for me. :yay:

I would bet that damn near 100% of fat folks who lose weight would say the same.

I would bet that damn near 100% of fat folks who lose weight would say the same.If I had taken a careful/thoughtful approach to eating and exercise, I probably wouldn't have gotten fat in the first place. :ilovefood:

Having said that, I am positive that metabolism, genetics and chemical reactions to food does drive our ability to gain and loose weight, but the real driving force in losing weight is eating smaller meals, getting up off your ass, and making better food choices.

Why is something that is so good for you, so hard to do in practice?

If I had taken a careful/thoughtful approach to eating and exercise, I probably wouldn't have gotten fat in the first place. :ilovefood:

Having said that, I am positive that metabolism, genetics and chemical reactions to food does drive our ability to gain and loose weight, but the real driving force in losing weight is eating smaller meals, getting up off your ass, and making better food choices.

Why is something that is so good for you, so hard to do in practice?

Ain't it the truth!!! I've had to really change up my diet and exercise routine over the last few years, but the results are worth it.

Here's a great tip for exercising if you use an ipod....

Motion Traxx (http://www.motiontraxx.com)

You can download for free and the different episodes change up the beats per minute for different routines and to keep things fresh...plus it's fun music. Enjoy!

Having said that, I am positive that metabolism, genetics and chemical reactions to food does drive our ability to gain and loose weight

I wouldn't necessarily use the word "drive". I think that metabolism, genetics, and chemical reactions are more similiar to an engine in a car that you "choose" to drive. YOU put gas in the car. YOU steer, accelerate, decelerate, etc. YOU make that engine go. How the car performs is totally up to you. The engine will do nothing without the will of the driver.

I have to say, that since daisycreek gave me info on what she does, I started just over a week ago and I have lost 2 lbs. I cut so many carbs out, and I have been riding my bicylce and stepping. Now I have tried so many different things. I don't think I have eaten bad in the past, just to much of the good stuff in a sitting. When I was in my 20 after my 2nd child, I lost 37 pounds. I was 180 before that. I had been eating a happy meal it seemed like all the time however, I was a skate guard at the skate station so I was skating 8 to 10 hours a day. So I was really burning some fat and calories that way. I love to skate and wish we still had a roller rink. I have so many exercise things from a stepper, spinning cycle, skates, trikke, treadmill, exercise ball, weights, bicycle, ankle weights for walking, and now I just ordered the damn ad circle pro. My biggest problem is motivation. I recently had an old friend tell me my hips had gotten huge from riding my motorcycle. But thats not it, I was just lazy. I can get motivated for a bit, then I would get lazy again. The hip comment really motivated me and I am getting rid of these hips if it kills me. I would really love to learn to rollerblade. I tried it once and fell down and never tried again. I have too many outdoor exercise toys that I need to utilize. I am not giving up this time. All of you have been really helpful to me and I hope you continue. Thanks ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

AWESOME! Way to Go!!!! :clap:

the website "spark people" is great for motivation!

UP until 3 years ago I was in pretty good shape. For 9 years I was at a job where I was constantly moving and lifting heavy things. Now I have a sit down job which I feel has been one of the problems of my weight gain. Now I have to head out by 6:30 to get to work by 8 and I get off at 4:30 which brings me home close to 6pm. By the time I get home, I have house stuff to do, help my bf cook dinner, or help cut grass, or do laundry. Its always something. I tried exercising after work, but then that brings me to the 8'oclock hour to start making dinner which I cannot stand to eat that late. I get most of my activity on the weekends and Monday. My bf is a great cook, and we always try to cook healthy. Lots of veggies, turkey, chicken or fish. Now where I work is a very small office. I have a hard time sitting still but I can only go to and from the bathroom. Most of the time I will go to the bathroom alot and pretend Im using it, but I am really in there doing arm raises, or squats or lunges. Just something to help me get a little exercise in . But I am gaining weight like crazy. I have gained 15lbs in 3 years. Now I am getting depressed. I belong to a gym once, but I just cannot afford that anymore and had to cancell. My favriot things to do is bike riding and walking. Are there any office workers who sit all day have any advice for what I can do during the day. Please keep in mind, there are 2 other people in this office with me and they need there piece and quiet. We do not have doors on our rooms so there is no privacy. Help, I need advice.

Stress helped me lose 15 pnds :coffee:

AWESOME! Way to Go!!!! :clap:

the website "spark people" is great for motivation!
I'm so glad your here right now. Im getting bored with the my breakfast. What else is good to eat?

I have to say, that since daisycreek gave me info on what she does, I started just over a week ago and I have lost 2 lbs. I cut so many carbs out, and I have been riding my bicylce and stepping. Now I have tried so many different things. I don't think I have eaten bad in the past, just to much of the good stuff in a sitting. When I was in my 20 after my 2nd child, I lost 37 pounds. I was 180 before that. I had been eating a happy meal it seemed like all the time however, I was a skate guard at the skate station so I was skating 8 to 10 hours a day. So I was really burning some fat and calories that way. I love to skate and wish we still had a roller rink. I have so many exercise things from a stepper, spinning cycle, skates, trikke, treadmill, exercise ball, weights, bicycle, ankle weights for walking, and now I just ordered the damn ad circle pro. My biggest problem is motivation. I recently had an old friend tell me my hips had gotten huge from riding my motorcycle. But thats not it, I was just lazy. I can get motivated for a bit, then I would get lazy again. The hip comment really motivated me and I am getting rid of these hips if it kills me. I would really love to learn to rollerblade. I tried it once and fell down and never tried again. I have too many outdoor exercise toys that I need to utilize. I am not giving up this time. All of you have been really helpful to me and I hope you continue. Thanks ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Great job, keep it up! I've also found that cutting back on processed carbs helps melt the pounds away. One of my friends just stopped eating anything white, that was the easiest way for him to lose weight.

I love rollerblading, Long Island has some great paved trails near the water that I really miss. Does anyone know of any good/safe places to rollerblade in somd? I'll have my son in his stroller with me so I'd rather not blade anywhere where I have to duck bullets. :lol:

Great job, keep it up! I've also found that cutting back on processed carbs helps melt the pounds away. One of my friends just stopped eating anything white, that was the easiest way for him to lose weight.

I love rollerblading, Long Island has some great paved trails near the water that I really miss. Does anyone know of any good/safe places to rollerblade in somd? I'll have my son in his stroller with me so I'd rather not blade anywhere where I have to duck bullets. :lol:
Um, I don't know. I know they are building a 20 or 28 mile trail in St. Marys. Right now there is only like 3 miles of it done so far. Its supose to be real nice when finished. Other than that, Solomons Is is a great place to site see and exercise at the same time. I do not know how to roller blade. But I guess I will learn someday. I will have to stuff my pants with Northern Tissue like the old commercial so I will have padding when I fall down.

Great job, keep it up! I've also found that cutting back on processed carbs helps melt the pounds away. One of my friends just stopped eating anything white, that was the easiest way for him to lose weight.

I love rollerblading, Long Island has some great paved trails near the water that I really miss. Does anyone know of any good/safe places to rollerblade in somd? I'll have my son in his stroller with me so I'd rather not blade anywhere where I have to duck bullets. :lol:

flag ponds park in calvert?

Thats why I just drink my breakfast, plus never was much of a breakfast eater..


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I lost 43 lbs is 4 months using the website vitalityforlife .com

If you stick to this it will work. Eat every two hours and lots of water. Make sure you have lots of protein in the morning. Breakfast is really important. When you are eating every two hours you will. never really be hungry. You just take the edge off. Snack on almonds and fruits through the day. Add a salad to your lunch and dinner. Don't eat frozen meals! They are full of salt. Fat free stuff has more salt then light. No soda either. I do portion control. I do not park at the closest parking space. I park further away. Take the stairs instead of the elevator. I did this for a month and lost 15 -20 pounds. As soon as i stopped i gain it all back..lol! I am week 2 of the process all over again. I lost 5 pounds. I feel great and have more energy. I also cut out a lot of gluten and high fructose corn syrup. I plan on going back to the gym.