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vraiblonde
08-20-2009, 10:08 PM
Catt awhile back suggested I give Claudia - 15 years old and quite the senile old lady - some cottage cheese to put some weight on her. She won't eat it plain so I mix it with her wet catfood and she gobbles it right up.

My dumb question is:

Her teeth are old, like her, which is why she can't eat crunchies. Will the calcium in the cottage cheese help that? Do cats process calcium like humans do?

clevalley
08-20-2009, 10:09 PM
Catt awhile back suggested I give Claudia - 15 years old and quite the senile old lady - some cottage cheese to put some weight on her. She won't eat it plain so I mix it with her wet catfood and she gobbles it right up.

My dumb question is:

Her teeth are old, like her, which is why she can't eat crunchies. Will the calcium in the cottage cheese help that? Do cats process calcium like humans do?

Yes and you can also give her yogurt. from Hoover

vraiblonde
08-20-2009, 10:32 PM
Yes and you can also give her yogurt. from Hoover

Tell her I said thanks!

luckystar
08-21-2009, 10:39 AM
I thought cats were lactose intolerant after nursing. Have I been misinformed? Cause I know Fry loves his occasional cream.

cattitude
08-21-2009, 10:48 AM
I thought cats were lactose intolerant after nursing. Have I been misinformed? Cause I know Fry loves his occasional cream.

Cottage cheese is low in lactose and the probiotics in yogurt generally make it an okay treat.

kvj21075
08-21-2009, 10:50 AM
dont mean to get gross on anyone, but our one cat Fleas is very thin, he eats alot, but he is mostly bones. if we started putting yogurt or cottage cheese in his food, would this mess up his bowels? he is really old, and already has problems (usually diarrhea) so it would be nice to put weight on him but i dont want to make his potty habits worse.

Cowgirl
08-21-2009, 10:51 AM
Calcium is pretty much metabolized the same in all mammals that I can think of. It plays an important part in bone development/maintenance and is highly important in muscle function. I'd think any calcium in her diet would do her good.

cattitude
08-21-2009, 10:59 AM
dont mean to get gross on anyone, but our one cat Fleas is very thin, he eats alot, but he is mostly bones. if we started putting yogurt or cottage cheese in his food, would this mess up his bowels? he is really old, and already has problems (usually diarrhea) so it would be nice to put weight on him but i dont want to make his potty habits worse.

Have you had him checked out by a vet?

Cowgirl
08-21-2009, 11:01 AM
Have you had him checked out by a vet?

:yeahthat: Could be a parasite issue.

kvj21075
08-21-2009, 11:01 AM
Have you had him checked out by a vet?
no :ohwell: he isnt in pain or anything, other than his bm's he is happy and healthy. we arent sure how old he is cause 4d rescued him, but my guess is really really old.

kvj21075
08-21-2009, 11:02 AM
:yeahthat: Could be a parasite issue.
if it was a parasite, wouldnt the other cats get it? he has been havign this problem for the past 8 or 9 months

Cowgirl
08-21-2009, 11:03 AM
no :ohwell: he isnt in pain or anything, other than his bm's he is happy and healthy. we arent sure how old he is cause 4d rescued him, but my guess is really really old.

Diarrhea isn't normal. Maybe he needs a new diet, maybe he's got some intestinal parasites. I'd take him in and have him checked out.

cattitude
08-21-2009, 11:08 AM
no :ohwell: he isnt in pain or anything, other than his bm's he is happy and healthy. we arent sure how old he is cause 4d rescued him, but my guess is really really old.

Never mind.

kvj21075
08-21-2009, 11:09 AM
but wouldnt the other cats get it if it was a parasite? i thought about a different diet but we have 4 cats and we arent always home to feed them meals (they have bowls we just fill in the morning) so we wouldnt be able to feed them different things. but i guess we should take him into a vet. soooo we live in hollywood- whats a good vet to take him too that wont make us go broke?

kvj21075
08-21-2009, 11:10 AM
Never mind.
:confused:

jp2854
08-21-2009, 11:17 AM
kvj you can go to three notch animal hospital on 235 by I think its the thomas summerville bldg? I could be wrong about the bldg name its right passed wildewood. I used dr.feldhaus shes great and spends time talking to you shes not the type to get you in and out in 2min but since I don't live close to there anymore I go to all kinds up in callaway and that is run by a husband and wife who are also both great but I don't think you want to travel that far for a vet.

kvj21075
08-21-2009, 11:20 AM
kvj you can go to three notch animal hospital on 235 by I think its the thomas summerville bldg? I could be wrong about the bldg name its right passed wildewood. I used dr.feldhaus shes great and spends time talking to you shes not the type to get you in and out in 2min but since I don't live close to there anymore I go to all kinds up in callaway and that is run by a husband and wife who are also both great but I don't think you want to travel that far for a vet.
are u talking about the place off of airport view drive? i shouldve thought of that- i live 3 minutes from there. ill give them a call today. thx

Cowgirl
08-21-2009, 11:22 AM
but wouldnt the other cats get it if it was a parasite? i thought about a different diet but we have 4 cats and we arent always home to feed them meals (they have bowls we just fill in the morning) so we wouldnt be able to feed them different things. but i guess we should take him into a vet. soooo we live in hollywood- whats a good vet to take him too that wont make us go broke?

How old are your other cats? Has this cat ever been dewormed? Where'd 4D get him? If he is really old, he may not be able to handle a parasite load like a younger cat might be able to. I'd say take him to a vet and have him checked out. If he's got any type of parasite, chances are your others do too. It's worth it to treat them all at once. But you need to take him to a vet. It's not healthy for him to have diarrhea for 8 or 9 months. No wonder he's skinny.

jp2854
08-21-2009, 11:31 AM
are u talking about the place off of airport view drive? i shouldve thought of that- i live 3 minutes from there. ill give them a call today. thx

Yes KVJ that is the place I am talking about. I don't have the number though so you will have to look them up in the yellow pages.

luckystar
08-21-2009, 11:32 AM
No kidding. I'd be miserable if I had the runs for almost a year! I know I preach it all the time, but Petplan insurance really is the way to go to save money on serious health issues. They're inevitable.

jp2854
08-21-2009, 11:34 AM
lucky none of the insurances will take on an animal with a pre existing condition. I tried to get insurance for one of my cats and they told me nope sorry hes got a heart mumur.

kvj21075
08-21-2009, 11:55 AM
How old are your other cats? Has this cat ever been dewormed? Where'd 4D get him? If he is really old, he may not be able to handle a parasite load like a younger cat might be able to. I'd say take him to a vet and have him checked out. If he's got any type of parasite, chances are your others do too. It's worth it to treat them all at once. But you need to take him to a vet. It's not healthy for him to have diarrhea for 8 or 9 months. No wonder he's skinny.

we will def take him in then. thanks!!

No kidding. I'd be miserable if I had the runs for almost a year! I know I preach it all the time, but Petplan insurance really is the way to go to save money on serious health issues. They're inevitable.

hes not miserable. i just figured he was old :ohwell: we will take him to the vet. i just dont want to hear bad news. we dont have a bunch of money to spend on vet bills, and if it was anything serious i know what the outcome would be :frown:

vraiblonde
08-21-2009, 11:58 AM
:confused:

It was the "other than the bms" part. If the cat has diarrhea, he's obviously not healthy.

kvj21075
08-21-2009, 12:04 PM
It was the "other than the bms" part. If the cat has diarrhea, he's obviously not healthy.
:ohwell: i just figured it was old age... same thing is happening to 4d :biggrin: i will take him in asap :yay:

vraiblonde
08-21-2009, 12:08 PM
:ohwell: i just figured it was old age... same thing is happening to 4d :biggrin: i will take him in asap :yay:

Yeah, you're better safe than sorry with those old guys.

Oh, and the cat, too.




:jet:

kvj21075
08-21-2009, 12:11 PM
Yeah, you're better safe than sorry with those old guys.

Oh, and the cat, too.




:jet:
:killingme .... ok now delete this thread before 4d reads it :lmao:

luckystar
08-21-2009, 12:15 PM
we will def take him in then. thanks!!



hes not miserable. i just figured he was old :ohwell: we will take him to the vet. i just dont want to hear bad news. we dont have a bunch of money to spend on vet bills, and if it was anything serious i know what the outcome would be :frown:

Okay, maybe not miserable, but probably doesn't look forward to taking his daily crap. Probably misses the sweet relief of a good dump :lol:

Not trying to be cold, just trying to make light of a bad situation. I hope he feels better soon!

JULZ
08-21-2009, 12:16 PM
we will def take him in then. thanks!!



hes not miserable. i just figured he was old :ohwell: we will take him to the vet. i just dont want to hear bad news. we dont have a bunch of money to spend on vet bills, and if it was anything serious i know what the outcome would be :frown:

Well you could sell your cheap Kay Jewelers rings and pay for what he needs :shrug:

JULZ
08-21-2009, 12:17 PM
Okay, maybe not miserable, but probably doesn't look forward to taking his daily crap. Probably misses the sweet relief of a good dump :lol:

I know how it feels :geek:

kvj21075
08-21-2009, 12:18 PM
:bawl: how could i be so inconsiderate about his bodily dumping :bawl: his breath smells horrible too! im not saying cats breath is the most delicously fragrant thing out there. but it is nasty!!!!

kvj21075
08-21-2009, 12:18 PM
Well you could sell your cheap Kay Jewelers rings and pay for what he needs :shrug:
i dont think 25 cents will help much :ohwell:

JULZ
08-21-2009, 12:19 PM
i dont think 25 cents will help much :ohwell:

:lmao:

luckystar
08-21-2009, 12:29 PM
:bawl: how could i be so inconsiderate about his bodily dumping :bawl: his breath smells horrible too! im not saying cats breath is the most delicously fragrant thing out there. but it is nasty!!!!

:huggy:

The doc will help you guys out! Don't feel so bad. JULZ seems to understand! People live with some pretty serious IBS, right? You say he seems happy and that's what's important.

JULZ
08-21-2009, 12:34 PM
:huggy:

The doc will help you guys out! Don't feel so bad. JULZ seems to understand! People live with some pretty serious IBS, right? You say he seems happy and that's what's important.

:yeahthat: The things that shoot outta my ass :jameo:

kvj21075
08-21-2009, 12:35 PM
Fleas has an appt tomorrow at 1230 at Companion Care Vet in Mechanicsville, we have to bring a stool sample :dead:

kvj21075
08-21-2009, 12:36 PM
:yeahthat: The things that shoot outta my ass :jameo:
:faint:

jp2854
08-21-2009, 12:37 PM
so three notch wouldn't see your kitty kvj?

kvj21075
08-21-2009, 12:45 PM
so three notch wouldn't see your kitty kvj?
uhmmmmmm well.... companion is cheaper

jp2854
08-21-2009, 12:51 PM
oh ok I understand no biggy but i thought you said that three notch was close to your home. why take the cats for a long ride when most cats hate being in the car as they hate the motion?

kvj21075
08-21-2009, 12:58 PM
oh ok I understand no biggy but i thought you said that three notch was close to your home. why take the cats for a long ride when most cats hate being in the car as they hate the motion?
just taking fleas- its only like minutes away and he is good with car rides

jp2854
08-21-2009, 01:00 PM
oh ok...so fleas is your cats name. LOL weird name for a cat. I got 2 who hate the car. I wish you luck with fleas tomorrow. Please let us know how he makes out with his visit.

kvj21075
08-21-2009, 01:03 PM
oh ok...so fleas is your cats name. LOL weird name for a cat. I got 2 who hate the car. I wish you luck with fleas tomorrow. Please let us know how he makes out with his visit.
i didnt name him! lol

kendra and phoebe are horrible in the car! kendra cries the entire time and sits in the back window or wants to sit on the dash in my view. phoebe will lay in my lap most of the time, she then gets up to go to the back seat, :barf: and then comes back to mommy. :dead:

jp2854
08-21-2009, 01:08 PM
i make my cats ride in there cat carrier that way they don't get hurt if someoen tries to do somethign stupid in the car behind you or infront of you. Plus most vets wont let you just carry your cat into the office they want them in a carrier.

kvj21075
08-21-2009, 01:12 PM
my babies roam the car free :diva:

jp2854
08-24-2009, 09:22 AM
How did fleas make out at the vet on saturday KVJ?

kvj21075
08-26-2009, 12:49 PM
he is fine, i have some medicine to try for his diarrhea, no worms or parasites, so almost $200 later. we find he is just old :bigwhoop: :lol:

DAMCAM
08-26-2009, 01:07 PM
he is fine, i have some medicine to try for his diarrhea, no worms or parasites, so almost $200 later. we find he is just old :bigwhoop: :lol:

so I was reading thru this post and have a few questions?
you resuced him - from where? a person or a place? do you know his back ground?

Just wondering if he had always had this problem and is this why someone got rid of him.

Just because they didnt find parisites does not really mean much. They can be hard to find. Giardia can be really hard to find on fecal exams, which is why we think it is reasonable just to treat for it to rule it out. But the most important thing is since you say he is old did you do anyother blood work? More so to find out how his kidneys are? (you mentions his breath was really bad... could be renal failure)

Early in the diagnostic process it is a good idea to check a complete blood count (CBC) and chemistry panel to try to be sure that some problem like kidney disease or liver disease is not contributing to the diarrhea. For cats over nine or ten years of age it is a good idea to check a total thyroxine (T4) value, as well. Hyperthyroidism can cause persistent diarrhea in some instances. (this could also be a cause for why fleas is so skinny)

Just trying to give you a hand

kvj21075
08-26-2009, 01:11 PM
so I was reading thru this post and have a few questions?
you resuced him - from where? a person or a place? do you know his back ground?

Just wondering if he had always had this problem and is this why someone got rid of him.

Just because they didnt find parisites does not really mean much. They can be hard to find. Giardia can be really hard to find on fecal exams, which is why we think it is reasonable just to treat for it to rule it out. But the most important thing is since you say he is old did you do anyother blood work? More so to find out how his kidneys are? (you mentions his breath was really bad... could be renal failure)

Early in the diagnostic process it is a good idea to check a complete blood count (CBC) and chemistry panel to try to be sure that some problem like kidney disease or liver disease is not contributing to the diarrhea. For cats over nine or ten years of age it is a good idea to check a total thyroxine (T4) value, as well. Hyperthyroidism can cause persistent diarrhea in some instances. (this could also be a cause for why fleas is so skinny)

Just trying to give you a hand
thanks so much, i do appreciate it, but im not spending hundreds and thousands of dollars on a really old cat, i do LOVE fleas, but i need to be reasonable.

DAMCAM
08-26-2009, 01:54 PM
thanks so much, i do appreciate it, but im not spending hundreds and thousands of dollars on a really old cat, i do LOVE fleas, but i need to be reasonable.


I dont see it being thousands of dollars but the good thing is that if it is Hyperthyroidism - its treated with daily meds and they can be called into your regular pharmacy. They are the same meds we use if we suffer from it.

Feline hyperthyroidism is one of the most common endocrine diseases of the cat. Hyperthyroidism causes your cat's thyroid gland to produce too many of the hormones thyroxine (T4) and triiodothyronine (T3), which cause symptoms including weight loss, hyperactivity, and increased appetite. Luckily, hyperthyroidism is treatable.
Symptoms of Hyperthyroidism in Cats
Some of the most common symptoms of hyperthyroidism in cats include weight loss, increased appetite and hyperactivity. Increased water consumption and urination can also occur.

Gastrointestinal symptoms such as vomiting and diarrhea may occur. Cats may also display increased heart rate, arrhythmias and congestive heart failure. Cats with hyperthyroidism may develop a reversible form of heart disease. Most hyperthyroid cats will have an enlarged thyroid gland.

It's important not to confuse hyperthyroidism with hypothyroidism, in which your cat's thyroid gland fails to produce enough of the appropriate hormones rather than producing too many of them. Cat hypothyroidism causes different symptoms and requires different treatment.

Diagnosis of Feline Hyperthyroidism
Cat hyperthyroidism usually occurs in middle aged or geriatric cats. During the physical exam, your vet may notice heart murmurs, an accelerated heart rate, or a type of heart beat called a "gallop rhythm." Your vet may palpitate your cat's throat to feel for an enlarged thyroid gland.

Since the symptoms of feline hyperthyroidism could be similar to those of diabetes, cancer, liver disease or kidney disease, your vet will want to perform blood tests to check for elevated levels of thyroid hormones in your cat's blood. Your cat may have developed secondary illnesses, such as heart and liver disease, which will resolve themselves once the hyperthyroidism is treated.

(but the last thing you want to do is have him suffer)


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