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foodcritic
08-27-2009, 12:07 AM
Saudi Child Bride Turned Back Over to 80-Year-Old Husband
A Saudi Arabian father forced his 10-year-old daughter to return to her 80-year-old husband Sunday, after she was found hiding at the home of her aunt for 10 days, Arab News reported.
The young girl's husband, who denies he is 80 despite family claims, accused the aunt of violating the terms of his marriage, allowed by Sharia Law.
"My marriage is not against Sharia. It included the elements of acceptance and response by the father of the bride,” he told a local newspaper.
A member of the National Society for Human Rights said there are no regulations in place to stop the marriage of young girls, which is seen as harmful to their wellbeing.
“Such marriages are considered a gross violation of charters on the rights of children, which the Kingdom has signed and which set the age of adulthood at 18,” Maatouq Al-Abdullah told Arab News.
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Starman3000m
08-27-2009, 12:19 AM
Shari'a law permitting older men to marry very young girls is derived from following the example of Muhammad. Herein are two Hadith (sayings of Muhammad) in that regard:
“When I got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, ‘What type of lady have you married?’ I replied, ‘I have married a matron.’ He said, ‘Why, don't you have a liking for the virgins and for fondling them?’ Jabir also said: ‘Allah's Apostle said, ‘Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?’’’
(Sahih Bukhari: Volume 7, Book 62, Number 17, Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah)
also:
"Allah's Apostle said to me, "Have you got married O Jabir?" I replied, "Yes." He asked "What, a virgin or a matron?" I replied, "Not a virgin but a matron." He said, "Why did you not marry a young girl who would have fondled with you?" I replied, "O Allah's Apostle! My father was martyred on the day of Uhud and left nine (orphan) daughters who are my nine sisters; so I disliked to have another young girl of their age, but (I sought) an (elderly) woman who could comb their hair and look after them." The Prophet said, "You have done the right thing." (Narrated Jabir)
Source: Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 382:
Research (http://www.Starman3000.com)
Marie
08-28-2009, 11:09 PM
In a related story I ran across this. Unfathomable the depth to which this demonic system will go. The title reads:
Hamas Plays Host to Pedophilia
450 Grooms Wed Girls Under Age 10 in Gaza.
<img src=http://thelastcrusade.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Paedo-Pals.jpg>
To read this story and to see the unimaginable pictures, go to:
http://thelastcrusade.org/2009/08/07/hamas-plays-host-to-pedophilia/ (http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1102670189575&s=3464&e=001PHaC1tCQRFpvKaCc83oX1kQ9ZTZlXRimUA9Alp8lYclgwTkAxbXTFRA2t8gdbakjGpfyhrwXa4DT5IvwsJJvUl9a00vaPm1ZGd3O-Dm8Bd7HX3_2TrmOzb_ytP8A_wUgY-4c2iE5rz_ywg-SC3O5fuNfkNTNZ1wFTPOG0KIwCN99KkzlFmt3xw==)
Note: I was able to find a number of sites that carried this story but was not able to find any major news outlets that did. http://www.spiritonecc.org (http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1102670189575&s=3464&e=001PHaC1tCQRFqVnKkifqxC2UG6F7LysKLh7K6isXhqFIe5fjRwIJHU1nqPce345JEgMqAib3xhFItZMGsuLzCGIt3sVlJgeGC9em_xavfGtwBb7XV7KiydJg==)
Starman3000m
08-29-2009, 10:45 PM
Yours isnt a post about the repugnant practices of Islam, its yet another example of Christian Hypocrisy.
Months ago, I created threads about Christian parents who withheld needed medical treatments from their sick children, and many of those children died. Many on here posted about the rights of the Parents to endanger their children by using the safety blanket of Religious Freedom.
Yet you post about another parent that endangers their child, using the safety blanket of Religion, and not a peep.
And Atheists aren't guilty of abuses and child neglect?
C'mon, Nucklesack, what you describe is an example of the fallen nature of humans that affects all cultures, civilizations, religious and secular ideologies except for what Jesus taught. Nowhere did Jesus ever call on parents to engage in the abuse and neglect of children as you describe and as people who claim to be "religious" are guilty of.
Yes - in fact there are denominations within pseudo-Christian and misguided Christian sects who feel that overly strict discipline and emotional and verbal abuse is justified. Those parents will have to answer to God for their actions if they have cause a child to stumble in faith. Parents are to be a shining example of God's love and guidance with firm instructions in the way they should go but not abusive or causing physical endangerment upon the kids.
However, you continue to fail to understand that even while those other misguided religious parents are guilty of abuse, the Muslim parents are specifically indoctrinated to kill a child that leaves the faith as an honor killing - which basically constitutes premeditated murder.
Oh, and I am sure you can cite Old Testament Mosaic Laws and verses from the Talmud that encourage exactly what the Muslims are doing today. Where do you think they got their "revelations" for such actions????
In that regard, you fail to realize that the New Testament (New Covenant) teachings of Jesus rebuke such abusive and hateful behaviour as taught in the Old Testament Mosaic Laws that are found within the Orthodox teachings of Judaism.
Where in the New Testament are followers of Jesus told to behave in the way that Muhammad commanded of his followers?
Comparing the Teachings of Y’shua vs Muhammad
Y'shua (Isa’ / Jesus) taught this - which His followers are required to follow:
1. Love God and fellow man - even those who may be your enemy.
(Matthew 5:44) (Matthew 22:37-40)
2. Forgive others. Do not seek retribution and abide no longer by the rule of "an eye for an eye" (Matthew 5:28-48) (Matthew 6:15)
3. Put away the sword, for those who live by the sword shall die by the sword.
(Matthew 26:52)
4. Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called "The Children of God."
(Matthew 5:9)
5. “I Am The Way, The Truth and The Life; no man can come to The Father except through Me.” (John 14:6)
Muhammad taught this - which His followers are required to follow:
1. Oh slaves of Allah (Muslims) Obey Allah and invite all mankind to embrace Islam. Strike terror into the hearts of "Unbelievers" and slay those who do not accept Allah and smite the necks of those who do not believe that Muhammad is the prophet of Allah.
(Qur’an:047.004)
(Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 14, Number 2635, Narrated Anas ibn Malik)
2. It is legal to seek vengeance and retribution in like manner: "A life for a life" and a Muslim who shall abandon Islam shall be killed.(Imam An-Nawawi's Book - Hadith #14)
(Sahih Bukhari: Volume 6, Book 61, Number 577, Narrated 'Ali)
3. Paradise is found "Under the Shades of Swords."
(Sahih Bukhari: Volume 4, Book 52, Number 210, Narrated Salim Abu An-Nadr)
4. There cannot be peace until Islam rules over all as the true religion on earth. This earth has been made only for Muslims to inherit and Muslims are commanded to fight until "faith in Allah prevails everywhere." (Qur'an: 008.039)
(Sahih Bukhari: Volume 1, Book 8, Number 429, Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah)
5. "It is obligatory to love the prophet more than the members of one's household: one's child, father or even the whole of humanity"
(Sahih Muslim: Book 001, Chapter 17: Number 0070)
Quite a contrast.
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