I know some churches are against drinking. Are there some that are o.k. with it?

I know some churches are against drinking. Are there some that are o.k. with it?

Methodists...........:killingme

Irish Catholics ? Does this help? I go to bars that serve eggs and beer!

I am Lutheran. My church is just fine with drinking, after all even jesus enjoyed wine at parties. Jesus joke. but indeed my paster even talks about sometimes having a beer watching football. Drunkeness is explicitly banned in the bible..drinking, is not.

Catholic and I drink. Most of the time not to excess, but that too has been known to happen. :otter:

Methodists...........:killingmeI used to think they didn't have a problem with drinking. Found out that its not true.

I know some churches are against drinking. Are there some that are o.k. with it?

One of my favorite priests once said: "All things in moderation and sometimes even moderation".

One of my favorite priests once said: "All things in moderation and sometimes even moderation".

Moreso a warning to all of what you could be led into and then be sorry for afterward:

Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise. (Proverbs 20:1)

Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.
(Romans 13:13)

"rioting and drunkenness" sounds like some of my former days after the school football games and when I used to party hardy! (not so much of the rioting though) LOL

I know some churches are against drinking. Are there some that are o.k. with it?

Shopping, are we?

Try the Episcopalians.

Shopping, are we?

Try the Episcopalians.

:killingme :buddies:

:killingme :buddies:

Surprised that it took the 9th post to say that, aren't you?

Surprised that it took the 9th post to say that, aren't you?

LOL
You caught on quicker than I did if jigglepuff is actually "shopping around" for a church where one can feel free to partake of a little bit of :buddies: and not be condemned for it by the "elders".

I just visited an Episcopalian site and found out that they like to poke fun at themselves as well:

A light hearted look at what Episcopalians Believe

Episcopalians occasionally believe in miracles and sometimes even expect them, particularly during stewardship canvasses or when electing bishops or vicars, or recruiting church school teachers.

Episcopalians believe in ecumenical dialogue because they are certain that after all is said and done everyone else is bound to become Episcopalian.

Episcopalians strongly believe in Scripture, tradition and reason. While they aren't sure what they believe about these three things, there is almost universal agreement that that is hardly the point.

Episcopalians believe that everything in their life and faith is improved by the presence of good food and drink, not including lime-carrot jello, tropical punch koolaid, or canned tuna fish in any form.

Episcopalians believe that anything worth doing is especially worth doing if it has an obscure title attached to it (e.g. sexton, thurifer, suffragan, canon, dean).

Likewise, Episcopalians believe that any place worth visiting is greatly enhanced by a name that only obliquely describes it (e.g., nave, narthex, sacristy, undercroft, church school supply room).

Episcopalians firmly believe that coffee hour is the eighth sacrament, but only if the coffee is caffeinated.

Episcopalians believe that anthems are most efficacious if sung in Latin or German, especially during Lent.

Episcopalians generally believe that they are the only people God trusts enough to take the summers off from Church.

Some Episcopalians believe Rite I is the best expression of the liturgy. Some believe Rite II is better. Most Episcopalians haven't noticed the difference; they just hope the whole things gets over before noon.

Episcopal Beliefs (http://stfranciseureka.org/believe.htm)

I know some churches are against drinking. Are there some that are o.k. with it?

You can probably go to a lot of churches and find that members there will have differing opinions.

If we are honest. Alcohol is not a sin in and of itself. Drunkeness is. Just like a Big Mac is not sinful in and of itself. If one is a glutton is that any worse than a drunkard? I don't think so. Each is a problem.


The NT gives us some insight in to wine for example. Jesus turns wanter into wine ( and apparently it was the good stuff). Also during communion Jesus took wine and bread. I have long wondered why we drink grape juice now...

The usual response is being a stumbling block to those who are alcoholics. This is a legitimate answer but it is flawed when you go to a church pot luck and don't ask the same question. Is there someone there who is a glutton. (some may sure look like it)

I think you probably know where I stand based on the comments.

In essentials unity, in non-essentials liberty and in all things charity. Unknown. :buddies:

I know some churches are against drinking. Are there some that are o.k. with it?

All but the Mormons??

You can probably go to a lot of churches and find that members there will have differing opinions.

If we are honest. Alcohol is not a sin in and of itself. Drunkeness is. Just like a Big Mac is not sinful in and of itself. If one is a glutton is that any worse than a drunkard? I don't think so. Each is a problem.


The NT gives us some insight in to wine for example. Jesus turns wanter into wine ( and apparently it was the good stuff). Also during communion Jesus took wine and bread. I have long wondered why we drink grape juice now...

The usual response is being a stumbling block to those who are alcoholics. This is a legitimate answer but it is flawed when you go to a church pot luck and don't ask the same question. Is there someone there who is a glutton. (some may sure look like it)

I think you probably know where I stand based on the comments.

In essentials unity, in non-essentials liberty and in all things charity. Unknown. :buddies:

Lets see.. 2000 years ago they didn't have refrigeration.. so things like MILK would be out.. Imagine drinking milk from a goats bladder that you've carried on your back the last three days in the desert, not a pleasant thought is it?

Water filtration?? Nope.. They'd have to drink from the river 1,000,000,000 people took a dump in that morning, and even their wells were open pits people could relieve themselves in when passing.

So what's the best choice? WINE (or any other fermented distilled drink)!! The fermenting process kills all the bad bacteria.. e. coli.. botulism.. plague.. It was the BEST thing to drink during that time periond.. and mostly the only SAFE thing to drink. Nothing mystical.. it's just science.

Today we have refrigeration, and we have safe water to drink.. so why should we drink wine?

Lets see.. 2000 years ago they didn't have refrigeration.. so things like MILK would be out.. Imagine drinking milk from a goats bladder that you've carried on your back the last three days in the desert, not a pleasant thought is it?

Water filtration?? Nope.. They'd have to drink from the river 1,000,000,000 people took a dump in that morning, and even their wells were open pits people could relieve themselves in when passing.

So what's the best choice? WINE (or any other fermented distilled drink)!! The fermenting process kills all the bad bacteria.. e. coli.. botulism.. plague.. It was the BEST thing to drink during that time periond.. and mostly the only SAFE thing to drink. Nothing mystical.. it's just science.

Yep. Paul recognized that some of the drinking water could be contaminated; recommended "a little" wine helped cure some ailments:

Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities. (1 Timothy 5:23)

Today we have refrigeration, and we have safe water to drink.. so why should we drink wine?

Good question. I wonder why the American Heart Association, Mayo Clinic and other medical researchers feel that "a little wine" is not real bad for you.

Health benefits – according to the American Heart Association:
Red wine is good – “in moderation”

Healthy drink : Wine » Healthy drink : Wine (http://www.ayushveda.com/magazine/healthy-drink-wine/)

(article excerpt)
By Kathleen Doheny
HealthDay Reporter

THURSDAY, April 30 (HealthDay News) --

"Men who regularly drank up to a half a glass of wine each day boosted their life expectancy by five years, Dutch researchers report."
Drink a Little Wine, Live a Little Longer - Disease Prevention and Wellness Information to Improve Your Health on MedicineNet.com (http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=99869)

And the Mayo Clinic report:

"...Red wine and something in red wine called resveratrol might be heart healthy. Find out the facts, and hype, regarding red wine and its impact on your heart."
By Mayo Clinic staff
Red wine, antioxidants and resveratrol: Good for your heart? - MayoClinic.com (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/red-wine/HB00089)

Looks like wine can be considered a "Health Drink"
I guess the wine companies must be paying these people off to issue these kind of reports? LOL

The only difference between a Methodist and a Baptist is,.........the Methodist will say hello to you in the liquor store.........,ask clevalley.....:lol:

I would think that the Muslims would have to drink heavy. You might ask, why BCP do you say such a thing

certainly someone would ask

certainly someone would ask

Why BCP do you say such a thing?

Why BCP do you say such a thing?
Well since you ask I will share my wisdom, you understand that I don't like to share my opinion unless asked..

anyway, any group of people that have women so ugly that they have to keep their faces covered in public to avoid scaring small children, yet still are able to produce those very same small children, must be drinking to excess every night to make those women look doable.

just my take on it.

if the women were beautiful like most of those here in the states, there would be no need to cover them up.

yes some do

I would think that the Muslims would have to drink heavy. You might ask, why BCP do you say such a thing

Actually, Muslims are Not Allowed to drink wine!
You might ask, why wouldn't Muslims want to drink wine? Here is why:

Penalty for drinking wine:

“The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: If they (the people) drink wine, flog them, again if they drink it, flog them. Again if they drink it, kill them.”
(Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 38, Number 4467)

Yep. Paul recognized that some of the drinking water could be contaminated; recommended "a little" wine helped cure some ailments:

Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities. (1 Timothy 5:23)



Good question. I wonder why the American Heart Association, Mayo Clinic and other medical researchers feel that "a little wine" is not real bad for you.

Health benefits – according to the American Heart Association:
Red wine is good – “in moderation”

Healthy drink : Wine » Healthy drink : Wine (http://www.ayushveda.com/magazine/healthy-drink-wine/)

(article excerpt)
By Kathleen Doheny
HealthDay Reporter

THURSDAY, April 30 (HealthDay News) --

"Men who regularly drank up to a half a glass of wine each day boosted their life expectancy by five years, Dutch researchers report."
Drink a Little Wine, Live a Little Longer - Disease Prevention and Wellness Information to Improve Your Health on MedicineNet.com (http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=99869)

And the Mayo Clinic report:

"...Red wine and something in red wine called resveratrol might be heart healthy. Find out the facts, and hype, regarding red wine and its impact on your heart."
By Mayo Clinic staff
Red wine, antioxidants and resveratrol: Good for your heart? - MayoClinic.com (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/red-wine/HB00089)

Looks like wine can be considered a "Health Drink"
I guess the wine companies must be paying these people off to issue these kind of reports? LOL

Good answers..

Penalty for drinking wine:

“The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: If they (the people) drink wine, flog them, again if they drink it, flog them. Again if they drink it, kill them.”
(Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 38, Number 4467)

Excellent deterrent :yay:

I know some churches are against drinking. Are there some that are o.k. with it?

Episcopals. There are no rules.

:lol: