Interesting question on CNN - I'm curious what SOMD thinks.

There was a survey awhile back that showed that teenagers today have totally unrealistic views of themselves and their futures..doesn't that say it all..there are so many out there that believe they are God's gift...special people..and theirs is the only opinion that counts...it is because of the "self esteem" movement..everything in a child must be praised as "special" and "unique" that gives them a sense that the world revolves around them..and that naturally results in less manners and caring for anyone else. makes me sad.


I actually saw a kid at walmart throw a box of something on the floor in a fit..then when they picked it up and put it back on the shelf his mother praised him for at least 5 minutes about what a good boy he is..what a crock..my mom would have waited for me to put it back on the shelf..then whooped my azz.

sad.

.my mom would have waited for me to put it back on the shelf..then whooped my azz.

sad.
your mom was a patient woman.
I believe that there was a good chance that my head would have beat the box to the floor.

your mom was a patient woman.
I believe that there was a good chance that my head would have beat the box to the floor.

:killingme "make things neat, before you beat"

Interesting question on CNN - I'm curious what SOMD thinks.

Although a comedy, sadly this movie is our future.....
<object width="445" height="364"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/L0yQunhOaU0&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x234900&color2=0x4e9e00&border=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/L0yQunhOaU0&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x234900&color2=0x4e9e00&border=1

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/y0O7_3o3BrI&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x402061&color2=0x9461ca"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/y0O7_3o3BrI&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x402061&color2=0x9461ca

Dur.

your mom was a patient woman.
I believe that there was a good chance that my head would have beat the box to the floor.

My mom would have uttered the 6 words that could put the fear of God in me and stop me in my tracks:

"Wait until your father gets home."

Then you would just pray that she would mellow and take pity on you before the old man came home to take care of business.

It was very effective - I don't think I was ever punished more than I deserved, though I probably did not think do at the time...:whistle:

My mom would have uttered the 6 words that could put the fear of God in me and stop me in my tracks:

"Wait until your father gets home."

Then you would just pray that she would mellow and take pity on you before the old man came home to take care of business.

It was very effective - I don't think I was ever punished more than I deserved, though I probably did not think do at the time...:whistle:

Problem with this is that most of the ones who cause the bulk of the trouble don't have a "dad" at home.

Problem with this is that most of the ones who cause the bulk of the trouble don't have a "dad" at home.

Bingo.

Of the kids that my sons play with, the ones with the most behavioral problems either have no 'dad' figure, or one who is rarely around and not active in their lives. Not to say that the mom's aren't doing the best they can, but hey, I can make my kids virtually wet themselves in fear simply by using a certain... "angry dad" tone of voice. Nothing like a good "oh crap dad is gonna devour my soul" to modify behavior, LOL. On the other hand, poor mom get's caught in a cycle of vocal repetion with increasing volume... stop Stop STOP STOP STOP *smack* Waaaah!

Hehe.

Of course, when I use that voice, I tend to get evil looks if we are at Walmart or whatnot... and that is fine by me, because I also get the occasional sh*t eating grin and nod of approval, haha!

I have good kids... so far....

Bingo.

Of the kids that my sons play with, the ones with the most behavioral problems either have no 'dad' figure, or one who is rarely around and not active in their lives. Not to say that the mom's aren't doing the best they can, but hey, I can make my kids virtually wet themselves in fear simply by using a certain... "angry dad" tone of voice. Nothing like a good "oh crap dad is gonna devour my soul" to modify behavior, LOL. On the other hand, poor mom get's caught in a cycle of vocal repetion with increasing volume... stop Stop STOP STOP STOP *smack* Waaaah!

Hehe.

Of course, when I use that voice, I tend to get evil looks if we are at Walmart or whatnot... and that is fine by me, because I also get the occasional sh*t eating grin and nod of approval, haha!

I have good kids... so far....


oh no. My mom was the scary one.:cds:

But, im a girl..and boys need dads.

Bingo.

Of the kids that my sons play with, the ones with the most behavioral problems either have no 'dad' figure, or one who is rarely around and not active in their lives. Not to say that the mom's aren't doing the best they can, but hey, I can make my kids virtually wet themselves in fear simply by using a certain... "angry dad" tone of voice. Nothing like a good "oh crap dad is gonna devour my soul" to modify behavior, LOL. On the other hand, poor mom get's caught in a cycle of vocal repetion with increasing volume... stop Stop STOP STOP STOP *smack* Waaaah!

Hehe.

Of course, when I use that voice, I tend to get evil looks if we are at Walmart or whatnot... and that is fine by me, because I also get the occasional sh*t eating grin and nod of approval, haha!

I have good kids... so far....

:nodofapproval:

I don't know how they do that, but just that voice scared the crap out of me as a kid.

Here's a good commentary. He mirrors my feelings on our narcissist society members.



There are many people out there, in all walks of life, who think they're more significant than they really are. Plagued with an exaggerated sense of self-importance, they feel entitled to do whatever they want, whenever they want to do it no matter whom it hurts.



Twenge recalled the student who asked her to postpone a final exam because it interfered with his plans for a birthday outing to Las Vegas. She also heard from a person who runs a company in Minnesota who said it was not uncommon for employees to call into the office and say they were too tired to come to work.


Commentary: Joe, Kanye, Serena -- aren't they special? - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/18/navarrette.rudeness.narcissism/index.html)

Although a comedy, sadly this movie is our future.....

:killingmeI think the future is now.

Interesting thing is that if you research on how the current generation feels about the newer generation, the comments are always the same, going back eons. No manners, disrespect, lack of work ethics and morals, etc, etc, etc.

I do however feel that role models like Brittney Spears and similar did spawn a whole new generation of the most arrogant, self-centered, narcissist kids ever.

Interesting thing is that if you research on how the current generation feels about the newer generation, the comments are always the same, going back eons. No manners, disrespect, lack of work ethics and morals, etc, etc, etc.

I do however feel that role models like Brittney Spears and similar did spawn a whole new generation of the most arrogant, self-centered, narcissist kids ever.

Good point; I remember my grandmother reminding me of my manners on many occasions; don't want to lump everyone into the same group, but I think people in general are much ruder than in the past. Maybe I'm just more sensitive to it now that I'm older.

Not a day goes by that I don't think at least once 'What an azzhole...':ohwell:

*Love your 'regards' siggy*

Good point; I remember my grandmother reminding me of my manners on many occasions; don't want to lump everyone into the same group, but I think people in general are much ruder than in the past. Maybe I'm just more sensitive to it now that I'm older.

Not a day goes by that I don't think at least once 'What an azzhole...':ohwell:

*Love your 'regards' siggy*

"Kids these days" has been uttered by every member of every generation at some time, since the dawn of man.

"Kids these days" has been uttered by every member of every generation at some time, since the dawn of man.

:lol: That was exactly what I was trying to say....

No, it is not less civil. Just a change of station.

Liberal ####tards who thought Soro's and Moveon and Kos and Kill Bush movies and the whole Bush Chimpie thing were just the be all end all in political commentary and humor are now pretending to be serious purveyors of civility and right wingers who've had enough of GOP and liberal policy insanity are speaking out. Loudly.

It's kinda like being in a shop where the table saw people stop for a moment and suddenly realize how annoying the band saw is. They just can't hear THAT noise when they are being noisy but, boy howdy, when they want quiet...

No, it is not less civil. Just a change of station.

Liberal ####tards who thought Soro's and Moveon and Kos and Kill Bush movies and the whole Bush Chimpie thing were just the be all end all in political commentary and humor are now pretending to be serious purveyors of civility and right wingers who've had enough of GOP and liberal policy insanity are speaking out. Loudly.

It's kinda like being in a shop where the table saw people stop for a moment and suddenly realize how annoying the band saw is. They just can't hear THAT noise when they are being noisy but, boy howdy, when they want quiet...

You certainly have a strange twist on exactly what I was thinking..:lol:

You certainly have a strange twist on exactly what I was thinking..:lol:

We've been breathing the same poisons; hockey gear/mx gear. :buddies:

:lol: That was exactly what I was trying to say....

I think it's worse than generations before....:coffee:

Civility: A thing of the past? - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/09/18/disappearing.civility/index.html)

Dur.

I think it's funny that all your avatars look just like you.

I think it's funny that all your avatars look just like you.
Yeah, I guess you could say I look like the living dead sometimes.:lol:

civility will stay the same because the definition will change.

Is society less civil or is it that due to today's rapid exchange of information we are just more aware of uncivil activity?

Here's a good commentary. He mirrors my feelings on our narcissist society members.



She also heard from a person who runs a company in Minnesota who said it was not uncommon for employees to call into the office and say they were too tired to come to work.



I would just call in sick .......... mental health day every few months


nice to have a day off in the middle of the week ......


:whistle:


of course now that I am older Karma is paying me back with Migraines

:faint:

Majority of forumites here:howdy:


there are so many out there that believe they are God's gift...special people..and theirs is the only opinion that counts...


This outta be over on the Jerry Springer-like thread:killingme

Majority of forumites here:howdy:





This outta be over on the Jerry Springer-like thread:killingme

How about a new thread. Is society in general becoming more Jerry Springer like:jerry:

How about a new thread. Is society in general becoming more Jerry Springer like:jerry:

:killingme Okay you start one. I'm on IGGY:buddies:

Interesting question on CNN - I'm curious what SOMD thinks.

I still believe it depends on where you are.

When I visit Nashville, there are SOME "screw YOU, hooray FOR ME"-types, but most of the folks are very polite and will move to avoid you; instead of try to walk THROUGH you; and if you make eye contact with someone in passing you will get some type of polite acknowledgement; either a nod, or a 'how ya doin?' or "Hi;" SOMETHING.
BUT HERE.....at home.....nothin' doin.' Sadly, the opposite is the norm AROUND HERE.

I was not raised to behave that way (the "screw you" way) and it has worked well for me my whole life......well not yet.

I still believe it depends on where you are.

When I visit Nashville, there are SOME "screw YOU, hooray FOR ME"-types, but most of the folks are very polite and will move to avoid you; instead of try to walk THROUGH you; and if you make eye contact with someone in passing you will get some type of polite acknowledgement; either a nod, or a 'how ya doin?' or "Hi;" SOMETHING.
BUT HERE.....at home.....nothin' doin.' Sadly, the opposite is the norm AROUND HERE.

I was not raised to behave that way (the "screw you" way) and it has worked well for me my whole life......well not yet.

I've lived in many places in the US and the world and honestly, this is the most uncivil place I've ever lived. I don't blame it on the locals, because most of the locals will go out of their way to be nice; but it seems like this place is the cesspool of 'transplants'.

Although there is that 'I lived on Great Mills when so and so was there' & the normal I went to so & so high school & my county is better than your's snobbiness, & 'I've lived here all my life and I'm related to everyone in the county' clique going on...for the most part, folks from around here are very nice.... I can't put my finger on it, but perhaps it's the mix of transplants and the local grown.

Ah, plus it's good ole' Southern Maryland.

No, it is not less civil. Just a change of station.

Liberal ####tards who thought Soro's and Moveon and Kos and Kill Bush movies and the whole Bush Chimpie thing were just the be all end all in political commentary and humor are now pretending to be serious purveyors of civility and right wingers who've had enough of GOP and liberal policy insanity are speaking out. Loudly.

It's kinda like being in a shop where the table saw people stop for a moment and suddenly realize how annoying the band saw is. They just can't hear THAT noise when they are being noisy but, boy howdy, when they want quiet...

You certainly have a strange twist on exactly what I was thinking..:lol:

I don't necessarily think that society is less civil as a result of politics, but I do believe our political stations have evolved into a less civil state.

Society as a whole has no sense of kindness, respect or ownership of action. There is a decline in honesty and follow through. And THEN why should they if the leaders they elect based on promises never kept and illicit actions are less civil themselves?

Bingo.

Of the kids that my sons play with, the ones with the most behavioral problems either have no 'dad' figure, or one who is rarely around and not active in their lives. Not to say that the mom's aren't doing the best they can, but hey, I can make my kids virtually wet themselves in fear simply by using a certain... "angry dad" tone of voice. Nothing like a good "oh crap dad is gonna devour my soul" to modify behavior, LOL. On the other hand, poor mom get's caught in a cycle of vocal repetion with increasing volume... stop Stop STOP STOP STOP *smack* Waaaah!

Hehe.

Of course, when I use that voice, I tend to get evil looks if we are at Walmart or whatnot... and that is fine by me, because I also get the occasional sh*t eating grin and nod of approval, haha!

I have good kids... so far....

oh no. My mom was the scary one.:cds:

But, im a girl..and boys need dads.

My kids will say that I am the mean parent in our house. Don't mess with mom or it will come back to bite them in the butt. Dad is more sporatic with his punishments. You never know if you'll get a chuckle out of him or "the belt". All I have to say is "knock it off" and the behavior stops (because they know "mom doesn't give second chances".

My kids will say that I am the mean parent in our house. Don't mess with mom or it will come back to bite them in the butt. Dad is more sporatic with his punishments. You never know if you'll get a chuckle out of him or "the belt". All I have to say is "knock it off" and the behavior stops (because they know "mom doesn't give second chances".

Heck he scares me!! Here dad, have some lithium... :drummer:

Me? I'm consistently an Ogre.

Heck he scares me!! Here dad, have some lithium... :drummer:

Me? I'm consistently an Ogre.

:lol: Oldest has already figured out that he's mostly threats and little action. Won't be too much longer before youngest does too.