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getbent
09-27-2009, 09:40 PM
7 yr old daughter woke up this morning with a fever of about 102. I have been giving her Motrin every 5 hrs, thats when the fever seems to go back up. Once it was 103 right after her nap. She's been stuffy and coughing some. Question is, with all the swine flu talk do I go ahead and call the Dr. in the morning? Go to the E.R.? Opinions? Thanks.

Giddy up!
09-27-2009, 09:50 PM
7 yr old daughter woke up this morning with a fever of about 102. I have been giving her Motrin every 5 hrs, thats when the fever seems to go back up. Once it was 103 right after her nap. She's been stuffy and coughing some. Question is, with all the swine flu talk do I go ahead and call the Dr. in the morning? Go to the E.R.? Opinions? Thanks.

I am going threw the same thing over here...I responded to your post on the other thread. My whole family has it now...started out with the 8 yr old daughter this morning and now my son and husband also are in bed with it!

dt5255
09-27-2009, 10:14 PM
same thing here with grandkids. daughter in law to 4 month old to doctors the other day, said it was just a cold. she has the 16 month old at hospital righ now but we haven't heard anything yet. my son said he was weezing really bad and you could hear a lot of rumbling in his chest. waiting for phone call to see what is wrong.

getbent
09-27-2009, 10:22 PM
It's so hard when little ones are sick. I feel helpless. Hope everyone feels better soon. I just need to figure out if I wait it out or go ahead and plan on doctor/ER in the morning. I'll have to decide early because I leave to go to work at 7 am.

Giddy up!
09-27-2009, 11:46 PM
It's so hard when little ones are sick. I feel helpless. Hope everyone feels better soon. I just need to figure out if I wait it out or go ahead and plan on doctor/ER in the morning. I'll have to decide early because I leave to go to work at 7 am.

All mine are still up, I am going from room to room taking temps and putting ice packs on heads....My daughters fever is persistant at 101 even after motrin. It is going to be a long night. She is being a trooper though, I put her in the tub earlier and that helped a bit with the fever and her spirits. She only complains of her tummy aching some and a head ache, no congestion or cold like symptoms besides the sore throat, my husband however has congestion and stuffy nose and sore throat...along with the fever and body aches. Hope your daughter starts feeling well again too! I think ya better plan on being out tomorrow...my daughter was complaining yesterday that she didnt feel right...and bamm..first thing this morning a fever. Hub was feeling a bit blah this morning...and by late afternoon he too was in the bed sick...so is my son who is so hard headed about taking medicine. Ugh I am going to need lots of coffee in the morning! lol

LusbyMom
09-28-2009, 12:29 AM
My oldest just had this... so did me and my hubby but we didn't have the fever. I did take her to the doctor but only because she complained of a sore throat and I know strep is going around. It all started with a headache and progressed from there.

This all started last Tuesday and today she still has the cough. The doctor said it was a virus.

getbent
09-28-2009, 07:04 AM
Just took her temp. 101.2. Still congested and slight headache. My MIL said she can watch her today. I may send her there and call Dr. from work and see what he says.

KingFish
09-28-2009, 07:12 AM
As long as there is not a sore throat involved, it is not swine flu. Sounds like the nasty bug that has been going around. Hope she gets better soon.

getbent
09-28-2009, 07:13 AM
Thanks. I hope she does too. It just sucks because CDC say people may get some of the symptoms, which of course she has 3 of them. I guess it's a judgement call.

libertytyranny
09-28-2009, 08:53 AM
Just an FYI note to mommas...Motrin isnt very effective against fevers..it is better for muscle and body aches. Tylenol is really the best for high fevers. It is OK to alternate the motrin and tylenol..that will more often than not break those tough fevers. I know tylenol has recalled several childrens brands..so make sure they are not on the recall list first :) Hope all the little ones get better...sounds like a nasty virus is getting around.

baydreams
09-28-2009, 10:53 AM
Alternating between motrin and tylenol every three hours is what finally broke my kids fever when they had the swine flu. Good luck, hope it ends soon!

kwillia
09-28-2009, 11:28 AM
Has anyone bothered to get Tamiflu once flu symptoms appear? Curious to know if it really makes a difference.

sanchezf
09-28-2009, 12:51 PM
Do any of these kids attend Margarent Brent Middle, they have had one reported case of swine flu. I spoke with the mom of kid Thursday evening..

kwillia
09-28-2009, 12:54 PM
Do any of these kids attend Margarent Brent Middle, they have had one reported case of swine flu. I spoke with the mom of kid Thursday evening..
I believe all schools have had kids with the swine flu already this year.

LusbyMom
09-28-2009, 02:25 PM
Has anyone bothered to get Tamiflu once flu symptoms appear? Curious to know if it really makes a difference.

I thought that was only reserved for severe cases? I didn't think everyone got it.

I was under the understanding that all people presenting at least the fever and 2 symptoms would be automatically tested for swine. My daughter had more than 2 symptoms and was not tested.

kwillia
09-28-2009, 02:29 PM
I was under the understanding that all people presenting at least the fever and 2 symptoms would be automatically tested for swine. My daughter had more than 2 symptoms and was not tested.
I remember reading that now that they have confirmed cases, they are no longer testing since they already know its here.

lovinmaryland
09-28-2009, 02:45 PM
Do any of these kids attend Margarent Brent Middle, they have had one reported case of swine flu. I spoke with the mom of kid Thursday evening..

I heard Margarent Brent had over 60 reported cases :shrug:

sanchezf
09-28-2009, 02:51 PM
I believe all schools have had kids with the swine flu already this year.

Wow I no idea
I heard Margarent Brent had over 60 reported cases :shrug:

Thats just scary...

getbent
09-28-2009, 09:47 PM
My daughter attends Banneker. She's much better today. Back to aggravating her sister, lol. No more fever (keeping fingers crossed). Thanks for the well wishes. I wish anyone else who has sick children a speedy recovery.

terbear1225
09-28-2009, 10:19 PM
I heard Margarent Brent had over 60 reported cases :shrug:

i find it hard to believe that a school would have that many cases of SWINE flu without it being reported big time.

maybe they have 60 cases of SEASONAL flu?

kwillia
09-29-2009, 06:39 AM
i find it hard to believe that a school would have that many cases of SWINE flu without it being reported big time.

maybe they have 60 cases of SEASONAL flu?

I believe they say the seasonal flu hasn't hit our area yet.

CalvertNewbie
09-29-2009, 11:48 AM
Can anyone help me build a bubble for my little boy to live in? :lol: Dr said it's already a bad flu year and it's gonna get worse. They gave my son a flu shot a couple of weeks ago and he'll go back for his booster in 2 more weeks.

I hope that all these sick children are feeling better. Bad enough when we get sick but heartbreaking to see the little ones in pain and miserable. :huggy: to all the sleep deprived parents out there who have been busy caring for their sick families lately.

TurboK9
09-29-2009, 01:14 PM
Just an FYI.... Although diarhea in kids with the flu is common, it is rare with adults. It is however typical with H1N1, so if you have an adult with flu symptoms AND diarhea, it could very well be swine. If the adults aren't pooping liquid fits, probably seasonal flu.

I was pretty sick last week and checked the CDC for H1N1 symptoms... So if you're pooping runnily keep a close eye on the young 'uns.

Four*Leaf*Farm
09-29-2009, 01:15 PM
i just hope this flu doesn't come with vomiting. i can't handle that part. my husband has to take over.

kwillia
09-29-2009, 01:17 PM
Flu stats for mid September week ending 19th... we are region III:

CDC - Seasonal Influenza (Flu) - Weekly Report: Influenza Summary Update (http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/)

Note... The majority of influenza A viruses that cannot be sub-typed as seasonal influenza viruses are 2009 A (H1N1) influenza viruses upon further testing. So when you look at the numbers for 2009-H1N1 add in the "non-tested" and "non-sub-typed" for A.

I'm curious to see the numbers again now that school has been in session for about 2 months.

kwillia
10-02-2009, 12:39 PM
Wow... CDC: Nearly 1 in 3 Pregnant Women Hospitalized for H1N1 Have Died in U.S.

CDC: Nearly 1 in 3 Pregnant Women Who've Contracted H1N1 Have Died in U.S. - Infectious Disease - FOXNews.com (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,559062,00.html)



Dr. Manny Alvarez, head of maternal fetal medicine at Hackensack University Medical Center in Hackensack, N.J., and managing editor of health at FOXNews.com, said there are two fundamental risk factors that pregnant women face when they get the flu.

“First, pregnant woman have an immune system that is slow – it’s like their immune system is on standby – and it’s not as reactive as a non-pregnant person’s,” Alvarez said. “And because of that, viruses, especially flu viruses of any sort can create a very severe infection.”

The second challenge women face is as the baby grows inside the womb, the anatomy of a woman’s chest changes.

“Their whole respiratory volume changes,” Alvarez said. “So if they get a secondary infection, such as pneumonia after the flu, it makes it very challenging and problematic for doctors to get airflow back into the lungs.”

Until now, the CDC has never really looked closely at influenza in pregnant women.

lovinmaryland
10-02-2009, 01:13 PM
Wow... CDC: Nearly 1 in 3 Pregnant Women Hospitalized for H1N1 Have Died in U.S.

CDC: Nearly 1 in 3 Pregnant Women Who've Contracted H1N1 Have Died in U.S. - Infectious Disease - FOXNews.com (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,559062,00.html)



Dr. Manny Alvarez, head of maternal fetal medicine at Hackensack University Medical Center in Hackensack, N.J., and managing editor of health at FOXNews.com, said there are two fundamental risk factors that pregnant women face when they get the flu.

“First, pregnant woman have an immune system that is slow – it’s like their immune system is on standby – and it’s not as reactive as a non-pregnant person’s,” Alvarez said. “And because of that, viruses, especially flu viruses of any sort can create a very severe infection.”

The second challenge women face is as the baby grows inside the womb, the anatomy of a woman’s chest changes.

“Their whole respiratory volume changes,” Alvarez said. “So if they get a secondary infection, such as pneumonia after the flu, it makes it very challenging and problematic for doctors to get airflow back into the lungs.”

Until now, the CDC has never really looked closely at influenza in pregnant women.

:cds:

kwillia
10-02-2009, 01:16 PM
:cds:

Hospitalized.... hospitalized! You didn't get that sick...:huggy: Rest, fluids and vitamins! :huggy:

punjabigyrl
10-02-2009, 01:29 PM
7 yr old daughter woke up this morning with a fever of about 102. I have been giving her Motrin every 5 hrs, thats when the fever seems to go back up. Once it was 103 right after her nap. She's been stuffy and coughing some. Question is, with all the swine flu talk do I go ahead and call the Dr. in the morning? Go to the E.R.? Opinions? Thanks.

We have been going through the same thing. I have gone to the doctors office 3 times. Both my kids were prescribed Tami Flu. Now that they seem to be doing better my son got a rash from the Tami FLu. Guess he's allergic to it. Now I have to deal with that. I would take her to the doctor.

Dymphna
10-02-2009, 01:53 PM
I heard Margarent Brent had over 60 reported cases :shrug:Maybe that's why my son :barf: in math class earlier in the week. :shrug: He's all better now, though.

RareBreed
10-07-2009, 07:22 AM
My son told me yesterday that one of his friends from school (Appeal Elem) was just diagnosed with Swine Flu.

kwillia
10-07-2009, 09:58 AM
As expected... steady increase in numbers (we are zone 3) from what was posted week before... CDC - Seasonal Influenza (Flu) - Weekly Report: Influenza Summary Update (http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/)

Cowgirl
10-07-2009, 10:02 AM
Does anyone have a link to info stating the swine flu vaccine is dangerous? My sister is a day care provider with an infant, so she'll most likely have to get the vaccine (daycare providers are strongly being urged to get it), so she's looking into it a bit more. She said she's read that it's been approved by the FDA, and it's manufactured the same way as the regular flu vaccine, except targeting the swine flu, obviously.

libertytyranny
10-07-2009, 10:43 AM
Does anyone have a link to info stating the swine flu vaccine is dangerous? My sister is a day care provider with an infant, so she'll most likely have to get the vaccine (daycare providers are strongly being urged to get it), so she's looking into it a bit more. She said she's read that it's been approved by the FDA, and it's manufactured the same way as the regular flu vaccine, except targeting the swine flu, obviously.

I have read that pretty much everywhere as well. The normal Flu vaccine only goes through so much testing as well...So it is not any more or less safe. There has been talk, as there is anyway with the usual flu vaccine, that it is simply not effective and therfore is just a waste. Because the vaccine does not cover all types of the flu there is no gaurentee you wont get sick..even if that type is covered in the vaccine.
I would argue, however that I would not want to get the nasal mist. As it is a live vaccine there is a risk that the disease could be contracted. I wouldnt get the mist for the seasonal shot either.

Here is a link that explains the "its ineffective" argument better than I can.
http://www.canada.com/health/vaccine+more+dangerous+than+virus+ethicist/1867678/story.html?id=1867678#

Dymphna
10-08-2009, 10:46 AM
Does anyone have a link to info stating the swine flu vaccine is dangerous? My sister is a day care provider with an infant, so she'll most likely have to get the vaccine (daycare providers are strongly being urged to get it), so she's looking into it a bit more. She said she's read that it's been approved by the FDA, and it's manufactured the same way as the regular flu vaccine, except targeting the swine flu, obviously.I was reading an article this morning about people's concerns....ie. it was rushed to market, untested. no data on long-term side effects, possibility of catching it from the live virus, etc.... I didn't see anything in the article that said all these concerns were unfounded....a few concerns are dismissed, but most of them were not refuted.
AP Poll: Third of parents oppose swine flu vaccine - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091007/ap_on_he_me/us_med_swine_flu_vaccine_fears)

Cowgirl
10-08-2009, 02:15 PM
I was reading an article this morning about people's concerns....ie. it was rushed to market, untested. no data on long-term side effects, possibility of catching it from the live virus, etc.... I didn't see anything in the article that said all these concerns were unfounded....a few concerns are dismissed, but most of them were not refuted.
AP Poll: Third of parents oppose swine flu vaccine - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091007/ap_on_he_me/us_med_swine_flu_vaccine_fears)

Thanks.

getbent
10-09-2009, 07:30 AM
Both my daughters brought home the papers yesterday to get the H1N1 shot. I think it said something about a booster shot for the flu one? Have to read it again. I'm torn between what to do. They both did get the flu shot, well one got the shot the other got the nasal mist. I just don't know.

navigator
10-10-2009, 12:12 PM
Does anyone have a link to info stating the swine flu vaccine is dangerous? My sister is a day care provider with an infant, so she'll most likely have to get the vaccine (daycare providers are strongly being urged to get it), so she's looking into it a bit more. She said she's read that it's been approved by the FDA, and it's manufactured the same way as the regular flu vaccine, except targeting the swine flu, obviously.

I think you can answer your own question by reading the following that was released by the NIH:

List Of Components Of Glaxo H1N1 Vaccine

BIOLOGICAL INDEX

chicken embryos (eggs)
influenza virus, H5N1
virus culture

CHEMICAL INDEX

alpha - tocopherol-to help absorb Vitamin E

aluminum adjuvant - Alzheimer's KEY Ingredient - 100% B.A.D.

AS03 adjuvant

Daronrix - experimental bird-flu vaccine

disodium phosphate - food preservative

formaldehyde - you know, for DEAD people- SHOULD NEVER BE IN HUMANS!!

magnesium chloride - "Salt"

octoxynol 10 - Tumor promoter-dependent phosphorylation

polysorbate 80 -induced persistent vaginal oestrus

potassium chloride - metal halide salt

potassium dihydrogen phosphate - salt which is used as a fertilizer

sodium chloride - table salt

sodium deoxycholate - secondary bile acid

squalene - adjuvant known to cause a host of debilitating autoimmune diseases

vitamin E

thiomersal (thimerosol) - MERCURY 100% DEADLY SHOULD NEVER BE IN HUMANS!!

Cowgirl
10-13-2009, 02:34 PM
I think you can answer your own question by reading the following that was released by the NIH:

List Of Components Of Glaxo H1N1 Vaccine

BIOLOGICAL INDEX

chicken embryos (eggs)
influenza virus, H5N1
virus culture

CHEMICAL INDEX

alpha - tocopherol-to help absorb Vitamin E

aluminum adjuvant - Alzheimer's KEY Ingredient - 100% B.A.D.

AS03 adjuvant

Daronrix - experimental bird-flu vaccine

disodium phosphate - food preservative

formaldehyde - you know, for DEAD people- SHOULD NEVER BE IN HUMANS!!

magnesium chloride - "Salt"

octoxynol 10 - Tumor promoter-dependent phosphorylation

polysorbate 80 -induced persistent vaginal oestrus

potassium chloride - metal halide salt

potassium dihydrogen phosphate - salt which is used as a fertilizer

sodium chloride - table salt

sodium deoxycholate - secondary bile acid

squalene - adjuvant known to cause a host of debilitating autoimmune diseases

vitamin E

thiomersal (thimerosol) - MERCURY 100% DEADLY SHOULD NEVER BE IN HUMANS!!


Have you also read that they're producing the H1N1 vaccine the same way they produce the regular flu vaccine? The only difference, of course, is that one contains the H1N1 flu virus and one contains the season flu virus? Wouldn't that mean the seasonal flu also contains all of the above ingredients? And people have been getting that vaccine for how long?

getbent
10-13-2009, 08:40 PM
Daughter came home today and told me her friend just came back to school from being out sick. She missed apprx. 10 days. Supposively it was the swine flu. (Banneker Elem)

MDTerps
10-14-2009, 09:44 AM
Daughter came home today and told me her friend just came back to school from being out sick. She missed apprx. 10 days. Supposively it was the swine flu. (Banneker Elem)

Swine Flu is here. (this is not towards you) People need to realize that. It's not going away. It's here and the kids are going to get.

My feelings are so twisted, should I get the shot for my kids, should I not get the shot for my kids. I read this site and that site and they all have mixed information. It just boils down to your own personal feelings and opinion.

jp2854
10-14-2009, 10:58 AM
i got the flu shot and had no reaction or any of that to it just a sore arm (the one they gave me the shot in).

Dymphna
10-14-2009, 01:45 PM
Got a letter from the school yesterday. It said that some child in some public school in St. Mary's had a confirmed case of swine flu. (they made it sound like there was only one.) Then it said to keep your sick kids home and you can still sign them up for the vaccine.

MDTerps
10-14-2009, 04:34 PM
Got a letter from the school yesterday. It said that some child in some public school in St. Mary's had a confirmed case of swine flu. (they made it sound like there was only one.) Then it said to keep your sick kids home and you can still sign them up for the vaccine.

My son has a cold, nothing more. No fever, no sore throat or aches and pains. The teacher sent him twice to the nurse today b/c he was sniffling.

Was I suppose to keep him home for a week for that? He stayed home yesterday. He sounded better this AM then he did yesterday.

Dymphna
10-23-2009, 02:35 PM
I heard Margarent Brent had over 60 reported cases :shrug:
I happened to be making idle chit-chat with the school nurse at Margaret Brent. I mentioned I heard a rumor about the number of cases there.

Her response: Rumors! :rolleyes: I don't know where that came from. I've gotten calls asking about that 'rumor.' Some say 60, some say 80...I know of FIVE and they are all well and back in school.


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