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vraiblonde
11-04-2009, 12:15 PM
It's on her forehead, right above her left eye. It looked like it was getting better, but today it's looking oozy and nasty.
She goes to the vet tomorrow so they can take a look at it. In the meantime, I want to clean it up and put Neosporin on it. Is that okay or not good for cats for some reason? I'd also clean it out with peroxide first, basically treating it the same as I would for a human.
Yay or nay?
Bronwyn
11-04-2009, 12:15 PM
It's on her forehead, right above her left eye. It looked like it was getting better, but today it's looking oozy and nasty.
She goes to the vet tomorrow so they can take a look at it. In the meantime, I want to clean it up and put Neosporin on it. Is that okay or not good for cats for some reason? I'd also clean it out with peroxide first, basically treating it the same as I would for a human.
Yay or nay?
:yay:
cattitude
11-04-2009, 12:18 PM
You should really use betadine because peroxide damages the tissues.
Is it an abcess?
Cowgirl
11-04-2009, 12:18 PM
Ooh, squeeze it! :clap:
Peroxide is good, but don't use it more than once because it interferes with new growth of new cells.
Bronwyn
11-04-2009, 12:20 PM
Ooh, squeeze it! :clap:
Peroxide is good, but don't use it more than once because it interferes with new growth of new cells.
I just learned that in the last year. I got my ears re-pierced and they told me not to use peroxide for that reason.
Let me tell you the story about Chopper and Peroxide.
Once upon a time Chopper had a boo boo on his back. I being the kind pet owner wanted to try and clean it up while waiting to take him to the vet. I grabbed the bottle of peroxide and doused the area. He took off like he was shot out of a cannon. Ran into the dining room under the table. By the time I reached him he had licked the area to get the peroxide off. Peroxide+cat mouth = FOAM. By the time I got out there he was frothing at the mouth like a foam fountain which freaked him more. He ran around frothing up and slobbering all over the place.
cattitude
11-04-2009, 12:25 PM
Let me tell you the story about Chopper and Peroxide.
Once upon a time Chopper had a boo boo on his back. I being the kind pet owner wanted to try and clean it up while waiting to take him to the vet. I grabbed the bottle of peroxide and doused the area. He took off like he was shot out of a cannon. Ran into the dining room under the table. By the time I reached him he had licked the area to get the peroxide off. Peroxide+cat mouth = FOAM. By the time I got out there he was frothing at the mouth like a foam fountain which freaked him more. He ran around frothing up and slobbering all over the place.
Makes all animals foam because it's like Ipecac for pets. Anytime you use peroxide for a cat it should be diluted 1 part peroxide to five parts water.
This whole story of the wound freaks me out.
vraiblonde
11-04-2009, 12:27 PM
Is it an abcess?
I'm not sure. She won't tolerate me poking at it too much, although it doesn't appear to hurt her. It started small - I thought it was a tick when I first felt it. It was a small scab. This was on Friday. On Saturday, the scab was larger but not broken open.
I was going to take her in on Monday, but it looked like it was clearing up. Today it's worse and needs attention beyond my Dr. Mom skills. She's eating and drinking fine, and has no symptoms other than the boo boo.
I think I'll just clean it up and put Neosporin on it, skip the peroxide.
cattitude
11-04-2009, 12:30 PM
I'm not sure. She won't tolerate me poking at it too much, although it doesn't appear to hurt her. It started small - I thought it was a tick when I first felt it. It was a small scab. This was on Friday. On Saturday, the scab was larger but not broken open.
I was going to take her in on Monday, but it looked like it was clearing up. Today it's worse and needs attention beyond my Dr. Mom skills. She's eating and drinking fine, and has no symptoms other than the boo boo.
I think I'll just clean it up and put Neosporin on it, skip the peroxide.
I'd bet it's an abcess from fighting ..either a claw or a bite wound. You can put a warm, damp cloth on it and see if you can get the "gook" out of it. Puncture wounds will scab over intially but then fester under the scab and can become quite large and very infected.
vraiblonde
11-04-2009, 12:41 PM
I'd bet it's an abcess from fighting ..either a claw or a bite wound. You can put a warm, damp cloth on it and see if you can get the "gook" out of it. Puncture wounds will scab over intially but then fester under the scab and can become quite large and very infected.
If it's from fighting, then Kiki gave it to her. I just checked and it's bloody, but there doesn't appear to be pus. It also doesn't look infected, but it's hard to tell because I can't immobilize her long enough to fully inspect it. I think I'll see if Jani will come over and help me hold her so I can get a good look at it.
I'll let you know what the vet says tomorrow - she goes at 11:30.
vraiblonde
11-04-2009, 12:46 PM
By the time I got out there he was frothing at the mouth like a foam fountain which freaked him more. He ran around frothing up and slobbering all over the place.
That would have scared me to death. :faint:
cattitude
11-04-2009, 12:48 PM
I think I'll see if Jani will come over and help me hold her so I can get a good look at it.
:lol: Extra! Extra! Two California Women Suffer Severe Facial Lacerations In Attempt To Debried Wound Of Formerly Feral Feline ..Photos by John Douglass
vraiblonde
11-04-2009, 12:49 PM
:lol: Extra! Extra! Two California Women Suffere Severe Facial Lacerations In Attempt To Debried Wound Of Formerly Feral Feline ..Photos by John Douglass
:lol:
That would have scared me to death. :faint:
When I realized he wasn't going to croak it was kind of humorous. :lol:
belvak
11-04-2009, 01:02 PM
I'll let you know what the vet says tomorrow - she goes at 11:30.
Hope Gidget feels better soon!! :huggy:
Larry Gude
11-04-2009, 01:05 PM
Nancy has a provision in her health care bill(s) to cover your pets.
ITS ME
11-04-2009, 01:15 PM
Let me tell you the story about Chopper and Peroxide.
Once upon a time Chopper had a boo boo on his back. I being the kind pet owner wanted to try and clean it up while waiting to take him to the vet. I grabbed the bottle of peroxide and doused the area. He took off like he was shot out of a cannon. Ran into the dining room under the table. By the time I reached him he had licked the area to get the peroxide off. Peroxide+cat mouth = FOAM. By the time I got out there he was frothing at the mouth like a foam fountain which freaked him more. He ran around frothing up and slobbering all over the place.
That story had me laughing. I was visualizing my cat in this predicament. LOL
Katelin
11-04-2009, 01:16 PM
Ooh, squeeze it! :clap:
Peroxide is good, but don't use it more than once because it interferes with new growth of new cells.
Peroxide is BAD for all open wounds.
I just attended at training and the Vet giving one of the wound care lectures again stated that peroxide is very bad and is no longer used in would care.
Do not even use it once.
Use soap and water to lift out the organic matter and then consult your vet.
The use of iodophors is limited to contact time.. .15 minutes to effectivally kill bacteria, fungi, viruses, protozoa and spores ..
But clean would with soap and water before using any of the iodophors.
ie: Betadine, povodine-iodine.
And using any topical ointment is not a good idea either as a cat will lick it off...
Katelin
11-04-2009, 01:23 PM
If it's from fighting, then Kiki gave it to her. I just checked and it's bloody, but there doesn't appear to be pus. It also doesn't look infected, but it's hard to tell because I can't immobilize her long enough to fully inspect it. I think I'll see if Jani will come over and help me hold her so I can get a good look at it.
I'll let you know what the vet says tomorrow - she goes at 11:30.
Vrai, it is an abcess as others have figured out.
Wash it well with soap and water...Dawn dish soap works fine...
Antibacterial soap is a worthless as can be....
Rinse it well..do not apply any ointment...
Keep it open and Gidget will keep it clean by licking her paw and washing the abcess.
Unless she is running a fever, not eating, etc, not real reason to take her to the vet.
Abcess will heal just fine.
It is open, it is draining, is it doing what it should do...just keep it clean and it will heal from the inside out.
vraiblonde
11-04-2009, 01:43 PM
Vrai, it is an abcess as others have figured out.
Wash it well with soap and water...Dawn dish soap works fine...
Antibacterial soap is a worthless as can be....
Rinse it well..do not apply any ointment...
Keep it open and Gidget will keep it clean by licking her paw and washing the abcess.
Unless she is running a fever, not eating, etc, not real reason to take her to the vet.
Abcess will heal just fine.
It is open, it is draining, is it doing what it should do...just keep it clean and it will heal from the inside out.
Got it and thanks! But I'm taking her to the vet anyway - I'd just feel better having them look at it.
jules12
11-04-2009, 02:15 PM
I was told when my dog had a boo boo, that you shouldnt use neosporin, something in it is bad for them. Although his wound was close to his mouth (well actually in his lip) they told me you should never put neosporin on a dog. I am going to assume this is the same for cats. Just keep that in mind. And the cat if it is by his eye is just going to rub it off with his paw anyways. Im sure a little wont hurt, but who knows how long it will stay.
Cowgirl
11-04-2009, 02:46 PM
I was told when my dog had a boo boo, that you shouldnt use neosporin, something in it is bad for them. Although his wound was close to his mouth (well actually in his lip) they told me you should never put neosporin on a dog. I am going to assume this is the same for cats. Just keep that in mind. And the cat if it is by his eye is just going to rub it off with his paw anyways. Im sure a little wont hurt, but who knows how long it will stay.
There is a type of Neosporin with a pain reliever that is bad for most animals.
Larry Gude
11-04-2009, 04:49 PM
Got it and thanks! But I'm taking her to the vet anyway - I'd just feel better having them look at it.
I'm calling all the kids. They can rot and rub dirt in it and walk it off, tumors, compound fractures, severed limbs, but let little Cuddlin's get a boo boo and it's off to Johns Hopkins!
:tap:
I'm calling all the kids. They can rot and rub dirt in it and walk it off, tumors, compound fractures, severed limbs, but let little Cuddlin's get a boo boo and it's off to Johns Hopkins!
:tap:
I think she called the Catulance. :jameo:
vraiblonde
11-04-2009, 04:52 PM
I'm calling all the kids. They can rot and rub dirt in it and walk it off, tumors, compound fractures, severed limbs, but let little Cuddlin's get a boo boo and it's off to Johns Hopkins!
If the kids were as sweet as the cats, I'd have been nicer to them.
Aww, I hope she gets better!
Katelin
11-04-2009, 11:38 PM
I'm calling all the kids. They can rot and rub dirt in it and walk it off, tumors, compound fractures, severed limbs, but let little Cuddlin's get a boo boo and it's off to Johns Hopkins!
:tap:
Fly out by Trooper 2?
vraiblonde
11-05-2009, 01:47 PM
I could use a Valium right about now.
The boo boo was quite large, so the vet shaved away the fur and removed the scab to clean the wound. It was about the size of a dime and looked like her brains were coming out. (They weren't because it didn't even go through the muscle, let alone the scalp, but it was fairly gruesome.)
She's on an antibiotic for a few days and I have to keep her inside and quiet until she heals.
Poor little thing!
Larry Gude
11-05-2009, 01:48 PM
I could use a Valium right about now.
The boo boo was quite large, so the vet shaved away the fur and removed the scab to clean the wound. It was about the size of a dime and looked like her brains were coming out. (They weren't because it didn't even go through the muscle, let alone the scalp, but it was fairly gruesome.)
She's on an antibiotic for a few days and I have to keep her inside and quiet until she heals.
Poor little thing!
Aw! Hugyou!
mAlice
11-05-2009, 01:48 PM
I have to keep her inside and quiet until she heals.
Good luck with that!
mAlice
11-05-2009, 01:50 PM
not real reason to take her to the vet.
...........
vraiblonde
11-05-2009, 01:55 PM
Aw! Hugyou!
I would rather be injured myself than have to deal with one of the kids or cats being injured. :bawl:
Larry Gude
11-05-2009, 01:58 PM
I would rather be injured myself than have to deal with one of the kids or cats being injured. :bawl:
I know, I know. That's why the :hugyou:
There, there, little pooter cake...it'll be OK. She'll be fine. :huggy:
belvak
11-05-2009, 01:59 PM
I could use a Valium right about now.
The boo boo was quite large, so the vet shaved away the fur and removed the scab to clean the wound. It was about the size of a dime and looked like her brains were coming out. (They weren't because it didn't even go through the muscle, let alone the scalp, but it was fairly gruesome.)
She's on an antibiotic for a few days and I have to keep her inside and quiet until she heals.
Poor little thing!
I would rather be injured myself than have to deal with one of the kids or cats being injured. :bawl:
Awwwww. Here are two :huggy: :huggy:... One for Gidget, and one for you!
vraiblonde
11-05-2009, 02:04 PM
I know, I know. That's why the :hugyou:
There, there, little pooter cake...it'll be OK. She'll be fine. :huggy:
Awwwww. Here are two :huggy: :huggy:... One for Gidget, and one for you!
Thank you :sniff:
She'll be alright - it was just the sight of that open bloody wound that upset me. But she took the cleaning well, and the vet was fabulous! New gal they have at All Kinds, Dr. Schad.
RoseRed
11-05-2009, 02:06 PM
Thank you :sniff:
She'll be alright - it was just the sight of that open bloody wound that upset me. But she took the cleaning well, and the vet was fabulous! New gal they have at All Kinds, Dr. Schad.
:huggy:
Does she have to wear a funny helmet?
Katelin
11-05-2009, 02:13 PM
...........
No reason if you know how to take good care of an abcess...( basic wound care)
and Vria is not equipped nor her cat calm enough for her to do this...thus the vet visit.
Do you have any idea how many cats get an abcess and are never treated for it and do just fine?
A LOT!!!!
But V. did the right think in knowing her limitations and took her cat to the vet after the abcess ruptured.
Cat will be fine and the abcess will heal....no big deal.....
mAlice
11-05-2009, 02:15 PM
No reason if you know how to take good care of an abcess...( basic wound care)
and Vria is not equipped nor her cat calm enough for her to do this...thus the vet visit.
Do you have any idea how many cats get an abcess and are never treated for it and do just fine?
A LOT!!!!
But V. did the right think in knowing her limitations and took her cat to the vet after the abcess ruptured.
Cat will be fine and the abcess will heal....no big deal.....
Doesn't change the fact that you gave her bad advice.
libertytyranny
11-05-2009, 02:17 PM
Thank you :sniff:
She'll be alright - it was just the sight of that open bloody wound that upset me. But she took the cleaning well, and the vet was fabulous! New gal they have at All Kinds, Dr. Schad.
aww poor kitty.. now good luck keeping a cat quiet and calm. My cat would be a holy terror...
vraiblonde
11-05-2009, 02:23 PM
aww poor kitty.. now good luck keeping a cat quiet and calm. My cat would be a holy terror...
It's really going to piss her off having to stay inside. :lol: But she'll get over it.
cattitude
11-05-2009, 02:25 PM
I could use a Valium right about now.
The boo boo was quite large, so the vet shaved away the fur and removed the scab to clean the wound. It was about the size of a dime and looked like her brains were coming out. (They weren't because it didn't even go through the muscle, let alone the scalp, but it was fairly gruesome.)
She's on an antibiotic for a few days and I have to keep her inside and quiet until she heals.
Poor little thing!
I knew it! Poor thing...
jp2854
11-05-2009, 02:31 PM
vria i am almost in teh same boat as you shadow has this really ugly scab thingy between her eyes one part is healed the other looks like it got scatched open again (she doesn't go outside so there is one of 2 ways she got this either from the dog smacking her or her getting in a tiffy with pebbles my 14yr old cat) I been putting a little neosporin on it every couple of days as its a chore to hold shadow (shes got killer claws and hates being picked up or messed with)
vraiblonde
11-06-2009, 11:08 PM
Okay, the little ##### is just going to have to die.
Last night's meds went down fine - it's an oral in a dropper thingie. Tonight, however, she clawed the #### out of me to get away. Plus she's meowing incessantly to go outside until I'm ready to rip her voice box out. :lol:
I could use a Valium right about now.
The boo boo was quite large, so the vet shaved away the fur and removed the scab to clean the wound. It was about the size of a dime and looked like her brains were coming out. (They weren't because it didn't even go through the muscle, let alone the scalp, but it was fairly gruesome.)
:faint: omg.
She's on an antibiotic for a few days and I have to keep her inside and quiet until she heals.
Poor little thing!
Awwwwwwwww! I'll say - I hope she does well & gets better soon!
cattitude
11-06-2009, 11:16 PM
Okay, the little ##### is just going to have to die.
Last night's meds went down fine - it's an oral in a dropper thingie. Tonight, however, she clawed the #### out of me to get away. Plus she's meowing incessantly to go outside until I'm ready to rip her voice box out. :lol:
Sit on her. :lol:
Get on your knees and sort of sit on her and give her the meds that way. Also, there's a shot, Convenia, that is an antibiotic that lasts 14 days. I think it's about $40 but it's well worth it if you have a wild animal. :lol:
vraiblonde
11-06-2009, 11:19 PM
Sit on her. :lol:
Get on your knees and sort of sit on her and give her the meds that way. Also, there's a shot, Convenia, that is an antibiotic that lasts 14 days. I think it's about $40 but it's well worth it if you have a wild animal. :lol:
They gave her the Convenia at the vet office, then there's an oral I give her last night and tonight, skip two days, then give her the last dose.
I'll try sitting on her - thanks! I wouldn't have thought of that! :lol:
Sit on her. :lol:
Get on your knees and sort of sit on her and give her the meds that way. Also, there's a shot, Convenia, that is an antibiotic that lasts 14 days. I think it's about $40 but it's well worth it if you have a wild animal. :lol:
Or wrap her in a big fluffy bath/beach towel. Like a papoose or straight jacket. Then you can hold her without being scratched. I used to do that with my kitty - and he's a big boy.
vraiblonde
11-06-2009, 11:21 PM
The good news is that her boo boo is healing nicely. And she's just going to have to stay in the house like the vet said because I don't want her out there running around getting it all infected.
vraiblonde
11-06-2009, 11:23 PM
Her med doesn't even taste bad - tastes sort of like honey.
vraiblonde
11-06-2009, 11:25 PM
Sit on her. :lol:
Perfect - thank you! 1 second and down the hatch!
Bay_Kat
11-06-2009, 11:26 PM
Her med doesn't even taste bad - tastes sort of like honey.
not going to ask you how you know this:killingme
vraiblonde
11-06-2009, 11:33 PM
not going to ask you how you know this:killingme
:shrug:
Bay_Kat
11-06-2009, 11:39 PM
:shrug:
I'm glad to hear she's doing better. I can't even think about letting my kitties outside. They've never been outside cats, but I've found we have coyotes in the area and I saw one just a block from my house and I've been told by other people that live here if your cat is missing don't even bother to look for it. That's not a comforting thought, just glad none of my cats have a real desire to go outside. I do have the big screened area in back but the pool freaks them out, so they don't go out there either.
cattitude
11-06-2009, 11:41 PM
Perfect - thank you! 1 second and down the hatch!
:catwhisperer:
Larry Gude
11-07-2009, 07:55 AM
:catwhisperer:
:killingme
luvscats
11-07-2009, 08:25 PM
I'm glad to hear she's doing better. I can't even think about letting my kitties outside. They've never been outside cats, but I've found we have coyotes in the area and I saw one just a block from my house and I've been told by other people that live here if your cat is missing don't even bother to look for it. That's not a comforting thought, just glad none of my cats have a real desire to go outside. I do have the big screened area in back but the pool freaks them out, so they don't go out there either.
for sure they were coyotes??? OMG! I have some outdoor kitties. They come into the garage at night but go out during the day. I've heard that yes we have coyotes and then I heard no they weren't coyotes but foxes. This is really worrisome. :faint:
cattitude
11-08-2009, 08:31 AM
for sure they were coyotes??? OMG! I have some outdoor kitties. They come into the garage at night but go out during the day. I've heard that yes we have coyotes and then I heard no they weren't coyotes but foxes. This is really worrisome. :faint:
:howdy:
BayKat moved to Florida a few months ago. Foxes will snatch up a kitty though.
luvscats
11-08-2009, 07:55 PM
:howdy:
BayKat moved to Florida a few months ago. Foxes will snatch up a kitty though.
I'll start bringing them in earlier then. They're trained to come in for dinner time. There's only one who's young enough to roam a bit. The other three are old and sleep in their beds most of the day. :howdy:
RoseRed
11-08-2009, 08:49 PM
:howdy:
BayKat moved to Florida a few months ago. Foxes will snatch up a kitty though.
I almost hit one on Joy Chapel Road last week and saw one dead on St. Andrews Church Road today. Along with the mangled dead deer. :barf:
Katelin
11-08-2009, 10:22 PM
:howdy:
BayKat moved to Florida a few months ago. Foxes will snatch up a kitty though.
Great Horned owls love to hunt kitties...one study found 8 cat skulls under owls nest...and there were several collars there too.
Coyotes and owls keep the feral kitten population in check in many areas in the USA.
Food is food, no matter how cute we think it is. :shrug:
That in itself is more than enough reason to keep cats inside all the time.
DoWhat
11-08-2009, 10:27 PM
Great Horned owls love to hunt kitties...one study found 8 cat skulls under owls nest...and there were several collars there too.
Coyotes and owls keep the feral kitten population in check in many areas in the USA.
Food is food, no matter how cute we think it is. :shrug:
That in itself is more than enough reason to keep cats inside all the time.
You are an idiot.
Do you have a husband?
Katelin
11-08-2009, 10:31 PM
You are an idiot.
Do you have a husband?
What does that have to do with what kills and eats cats?
In Florida..a lot of small dogs get snagged by gators....
DoWhat
11-08-2009, 10:32 PM
What does that have to do with what kills and eats cats?
In Florida..a lot of small dogs get snagged by gators....
Answer my question.
Do you have a husband?
Katelin
11-08-2009, 10:36 PM
Answer my question.
Do you have a husband?
Why, do you need one?
DoWhat
11-08-2009, 10:38 PM
Why, do you need one?
That was stupid. Everybody knows that I am married.
Answer the question.
Katelin
11-08-2009, 10:38 PM
Here is a detailed article written by a Vet about why one should try and keep cats as inside pets.
"Are you thinking about allowing your cat to go outside without restriction? To make the right decision, you need to know the facts.
The average lifespan of an indoor cat is 15-18 years. For a cat allowed outdoors, the average life is only 2-5 years. There are many dangers that can harm or kill an outdoor cat. (However, there are safe alternatives to simply opening the door; see our article on Outdoor Safety for more info.)
If your cat roams outside, or you're considering allowing it, please read this entire list. Then be honest with yourself, and answer this one question truthfully: can you absolutely, 100% prevent every one of these things from happening to your cat? "
For the rest of the article, I encourage you to visit and read more. (http://www.littlebigcat.com/index.php?action=library&act=show&item=indoorsoroutdoors)
Katelin
11-08-2009, 10:40 PM
That was stupid. Everybody knows that I am married.
Answer the question.
I did not know you are married...Congratulations!
But what does that have to do with this topic of a cat with a healing ruptured, infected abcess?
DoWhat
11-08-2009, 10:40 PM
Here is a detailed article written by a Vet about why one should try and keep cats as inside pets.
"Are you thinking about allowing your cat to go outside without restriction? To make the right decision, you need to know the facts.
The average lifespan of an indoor cat is 15-18 years. For a cat allowed outdoors, the average life is only 2-5 years. There are many dangers that can harm or kill an outdoor cat. (However, there are safe alternatives to simply opening the door; see our article on Outdoor Safety for more info.)
If your cat roams outside, or you're considering allowing it, please read this entire list. Then be honest with yourself, and answer this one question truthfully: can you absolutely, 100% prevent every one of these things from happening to your cat? "
For the rest of the article, I encourage you to visit and read more. (http://www.littlebigcat.com/index.php?action=library&act=show&item=indoorsoroutdoors)
Should we also keep our dogs inside too.
DoWhat
11-08-2009, 10:42 PM
I did not know you are married...Congratulations!
But what does that have to do with this topic of a cat with a healing ruptured, infected abcess?
Ink?
Katelin
11-08-2009, 10:45 PM
Should we also keep our dogs inside too.
That is a stupid question...answer that for yourself based on your dog's breed, size, weight and just how much you love your dog to let it live outside.
Dogs are pack animals and we are their pack..they, normally, would perfer to be with us instead of outside all alone.
But it is your dog..so do what ( no pun intended) you will.
DoWhat
11-08-2009, 10:51 PM
That is a stupid question...answer that for yourself based on your dog's breed, size, weight and just how much you love your dog to let it live outside.
Dogs are pack animals and we are their pack..they, normally, would perfer to be with us instead of outside all alone.
But it is your dog..so do what ( no pun intended) you will.
Why do squirrels run across the road?
:catwhisperer:
:lol: good one!
Katelin
11-08-2009, 10:56 PM
Why do squirrels run across the road?
Because there used to be a few trees there before they were cut down and a road put in...same reason deer run across the road...
But mainly I think it is to get to the other side...not too many squirrel and deer crossing guards out there......
OK..back to PBR!!:yahoo:
luckystar
11-10-2009, 11:02 AM
Because there used to be a few trees there before they were cut down and a road put in...same reason deer run across the road...
But mainly I think it is to get to the other side...not too many squirrel and deer crossing guards out there......
It does sound like Stink.
OK..back to PBR!!:yahoo:
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