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kwillia
11-04-2009, 02:19 PM
WTF??? I'd sue too!
Texas Woman Sues Facebook for Privacy Violations - Buying Home Computer | Business Solution | Networking Home Computers - FOXNews.com (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,571589,00.html?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a16:g2:r4:c0.175033:b28699657:z10)
Cathryn Harris found out after the fact that Facebook added a note every time she rented a movie from Blockbuster — a note that contained her full name and the name of the movie she was renting.
"I wasn't renting any movies that I'm ashamed of, but what if I had been? It's nobody's business," Harris told Fox 4 News reporter Dionne Angelin. "They need to follow the laws and respect their customers' privacy and not try to go behind the curtain."
The 25-year-old homemaker from Dallas County, Texas, said she made the discovery last year when she rented the 1985 adventure film "The Jewel of the Nile," starring Kathleen Turner, Michael Douglas and Danny DeVito. She said an alert appeared on her Facebook profile detailing the transaction.
As a result, Harris filed two lawsuits — one last year against Blockbuster and one against Facebook last month. The suits claim a partnership between the two companies allowed Blockbuster to send Harris' movie-renting habits to Facebook without fair opportunity to opt out.
Bronwyn
11-04-2009, 02:23 PM
I discovered that I somehow linked my youtube account and my facebook. now when I save a youtube video to favorites, it puts out a broadcast on facebook telling all my friends. it's annoying. I need to look into it and make it stop...
ancientmariner
11-04-2009, 03:01 PM
I discovered that I somehow linked my youtube account and my facebook. now when I save a youtube video to favorites, it puts out a broadcast on facebook telling all my friends. it's annoying. I need to look into it and make it stop...
If you go to the Friends Page and click on "All Connections" it will show all of the applications and people that you have allowed to share your information. Just click on the X of whatever you want to delete (such as youtube) and it is gone.
kwillia
11-04-2009, 03:09 PM
If you go to the Friends Page and click on "All Connections" it will show all of the applications and people that you have allowed to share your information. Just click on the X of whatever you want to delete (such as youtube) and it is gone.
It's my understanding Facebook doesn't stop collecting the information, but rather will just not display it... Facebook is one big ole spyware operation.
It's my understanding Facebook doesn't stop collecting the information, but rather will just not display it... Facebook is one big ole spyware operation.
That's why you read privacy terms when you sign up for something. Right from their ToS;
Sharing Your Content and Information
You own all of the content and information you post on Facebook, and you can control how it is shared through your privacy and application settings. In addition:
1. For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos and videos ("IP content"), you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook ("IP License"). This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it.
2. When you delete IP content, it is deleted in a manner similar to emptying the recycle bin on a computer. However, you understand that removed content may persist in backup copies for a reasonable period of time (but will not be available to others).
3. When you add an application and use Platform, your content and information is shared with the application. We require applications to respect your privacy settings, but your agreement with that application will control how the application can use the content and information you share. (To learn more about Platform, read our About Platform page.)
4. When you publish content or information using the "everyone" setting, it means that everyone, including people off of Facebook, will have access to that information and we may not have control over what they do with it.
5. We always appreciate your feedback or other suggestions about Facebook, but you understand that we may use them without any obligation to compensate you for them (just as you have no obligation to offer them).
There is a Blockbuster App on Facebook, and it wouldn't surprise me if she had it. I can see this case effectively going nowhere.
Baja28
11-04-2009, 03:35 PM
That's why I don't accept all those invites, have a drink, join a cause etc... ppl send. Sorry folks, not being unsociable, I just don't want a million apps. sharing everytime I take a poo.
kwillia
11-04-2009, 03:36 PM
That's why I don't accept all those invites, have a drink, join a cause etc... ppl send. Sorry folks, not being unsociable, I just don't want a million apps. sharing everytime I take a poo.
But yet you are here... Vrail knows when you take a poo...:evil:
Baja28
11-04-2009, 03:39 PM
But yet you are here... Vrail knows when you take a poo...:evil:She has a direct line to my big behind........with her foot. :biggrin:
ImnoMensa
11-04-2009, 03:57 PM
Well I hope the lady wins. however facbook is a big operation and I am sure their lawyers have a lock on what they can and cannot do.
STAUS UPDATE
Mike has rented "Fantasex Island, Revenge of Tattoo" from Blockbuster
:cds:
Bronwyn
11-04-2009, 04:06 PM
If you go to the Friends Page and click on "All Connections" it will show all of the applications and people that you have allowed to share your information. Just click on the X of whatever you want to delete (such as youtube) and it is gone.
Thanks!
Baja28
11-04-2009, 04:08 PM
Well I hope the lady wins. however facbook is a big operation and I am sure their lawyers have a lock on what they can and cannot do.She can't win. She needs to read the caveats that pop up EVERYTIME you accept an application. They tell you plain as day in non-legalease that they will share info.
:cds:That one musta slipped thru.... :blushing:
This is EXACTLY why I won't join facebook.
libertytyranny
11-04-2009, 04:13 PM
I don't understand how facebook would know what she rented..unless she authorized a connection somewhere. How would blockbuster be able to communicate with facebook without her registering or something of that kind?
kwillia
11-04-2009, 04:17 PM
I don't understand how facebook would know what she rented..unless she authorized a connection somewhere. How would blockbuster be able to communicate with facebook without her registering or something of that kind?
Here...
At the heart of the suit is Facebook's controversial Beacon system, essentially a tracking flag that follows you across a network of sites and reports back to Facebook on your activity. For consumers, it's a way to share more information about your daily activity; for advertisers, it's a way to learn a great deal more about an individual.
Following public outcry over the system in late 2007, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg publicly apologized for the Beacon system, noting that "the problem with our initial approach of making it an opt-out system instead of opt-in was that if someone forgot to decline to share something, Beacon still went ahead and shared it with their friends."
Facebook's policy has been changed, but Harris' lawsuit alleges that whether a consumer opts in or out, Beacon is a violation of the Video Privacy Protection Act. That piece of law prevents a company from disclosing information about a customer's rental habits without their knowledge; the suit alleges that Beacon still transfers information, it just doesn't display it.
libertytyranny
11-04-2009, 04:22 PM
Right I understand that..but I have never had facebook display anything I didn't have an application for. How could facebook link with blockbuster if you don't explain to both who you are? Based on name? that can't be it..there are many with the same name..you would have to link your bb acount with your fb account...for it to know where to post info....right? I'm confused as to how FB knew to publish it under her account..and not someone elses..what if your friend is logged on but you minimize it and order a movie..would it be published to her account? It doesn't make sense...
Here...
At the heart of the suit is Facebook's controversial Beacon system, essentially a tracking flag that follows you across a network of sites and reports back to Facebook on your activity. For consumers, it's a way to share more information about your daily activity; for advertisers, it's a way to learn a great deal more about an individual.
Following public outcry over the system in late 2007, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg publicly apologized for the Beacon system, noting that "the problem with our initial approach of making it an opt-out system instead of opt-in was that if someone forgot to decline to share something, Beacon still went ahead and shared it with their friends."
Facebook's policy has been changed, but Harris' lawsuit alleges that whether a consumer opts in or out, Beacon is a violation of the Video Privacy Protection Act. That piece of law prevents a company from disclosing information about a customer's rental habits without their knowledge; the suit alleges that Beacon still transfers information, it just doesn't display it.
From Blockbusters privacy policy:
What Other Mechanisms Does Blockbuster Use to Track User Behavior?
Some Site web pages and HTML-formatted e-mails and e-newsletters use web beacons to compile statistics about Web Site usage. A web beacon is an electronic image, called a single-pixel (1x1) or clear GIF. Web beacons can recognize certain types of information on a visitor's computer, such as a visitor's cookie number, time and date of a page view, and a description of the page where the Web beacon is placed. You may render some web beacons unusable by rejecting their associated cookies.
Blockbuster and its third party vendors use web beacons to track and analyze non-personally identifiable usage information and to compile statistical information about our Users in order to improve the Web Site's quality and to support our business. All data collected on behalf of Blockbuster is owned and used by Blockbuster. Blockbuster reserves the right to publish non-personally identifiable, summary information regarding its Web Site visitors for promotional purposes and as a representative audience for business partners.
We also collect information in log files that include data such as internet protocol (IP) addresses, browser type, internet service provider (ISP), referring/exit pages, platform type, date/time stamp, and number of clicks. We and our business partners use this information to analyze trends, administer the Site, track User's movement in the aggregate, and gather broad demographic information for aggregate use. IP addresses, etc. are not linked to personally identifiable information.
So, Blockbuster may not have used her name -- Facebook did because she registered there using her full name. All Blockbuster did was let others know what movie she rented, which is non-personal information.
kwillia
11-04-2009, 04:28 PM
Right I understand that..but I have never had facebook display anything I didn't have an application for. How could facebook link with blockbuster if you don't explain to both who you are? Based on name? that can't be it..there are many with the same name..you would have to link your bb acount with your fb account...for it to know where to post info....right? I'm confused as to how FB knew to publish it under her account..and not someone elses..what if your friend is logged on but you minimize it and order a movie..would it be published to her account? It doesn't make sense...
I believe if you have facebook open, you have this "Beacon" thing on and if you do anything on the various web clients it tracks... you are automaticall y being tracked. You having facebook logged and your other account(s) logged on allows Beacon to know who you are in both. That's my understanding.
Baja28
11-04-2009, 04:30 PM
Right I understand that..but I have never had facebook display anything I didn't have an application for. How could facebook link with blockbuster if you don't explain to both who you are? Based on name? that can't be it..there are many with the same name..you would have to link your bb acount with your fb account...for it to know where to post info....right? I'm confused as to how FB knew to publish it under her account..and not someone elses..what if your friend is logged on but you minimize it and order a movie..would it be published to her account? It doesn't make sense... It works like the beacon I have allowing me to view Kwillia's shower.
libertytyranny
11-04-2009, 04:32 PM
I believe if you have facebook open, you have this "Beacon" thing on and if you do anything on the various web clients it tracks... you are automaticall y being tracked. You having facebook logged and your other account(s) logged on allows Beacon to know who you are in both. That's my understanding.
That makes more sense..but then that leaves..if my friend has her facebook up...and I minimize it while she is in the bathroom and order myself a copy of big booty hoes 4...it will publish in her account? thats craziness.
kwillia
11-04-2009, 04:33 PM
It works like the beacon I have allowing me to view Kwillia's shower.
Turn up your volume... I sound like Martina McBride when I sing in the shower! :clap:
Baja28
11-04-2009, 04:42 PM
Turn up your volume... I sound like Martina McBride when I sing in the shower! :clap:You have lips?
You have lips?
I can already tell you what direction the rest of this thread is gonna go...
MMDad
11-04-2009, 04:55 PM
Wirelessly posted (Change we can believe in!: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.7) 320x240; VZW; Motorola-Q9c; Windows Mobile 6.0 Standard)
Turn up your volume... I sound like Martina McBride when I sing in the shower! :clap:You have lips?
Under all that hair. Frickin Amazon Jungle down there.
Larry Gude
11-04-2009, 04:59 PM
It's my understanding Facebook doesn't stop collecting the information, but rather will just not display it... Facebook is one big ole spyware operation.
Let your imagination run wild as to what the Patriot act REALLY allowed. Credit card transactions. Web data. Cell phones. Anything e-tronic.
Think about it.
Bronwyn
11-04-2009, 05:06 PM
Let your imagination run wild as to what the Patriot act REALLY allowed. Credit card transactions. Web data. Cell phones. Anything e-tronic.
Think about it.
But if you have nothing to worry about... you have nothing to worry about.
Larry Gude
11-04-2009, 05:08 PM
But if you ahve nothing to worry about... you have nothing to worry about.
Ever hear of a little thing called 'photoshop'? How far down the road do you suppose digital manipulation is towards being able to frame someone, thoroughly? Fake expenses. Fake calls or texts or e mails.
Bronwyn
11-04-2009, 05:13 PM
Ever hear of a little thing called 'photoshop'? How far down the road do you suppose digital manipulation is towards being able to frame someone, thoroughly? Fake expenses. Fake calls or texts or e mails.
I use photo shop all the time.
You can already do digital manipulation. Where does the patriot act come into the picture there?
Larry Gude
11-04-2009, 05:13 PM
I use photo shop all the time.
You can already do digital manipulation. Where does the patriot act come into the picture there?
Think 'sinister'.
:tap:
Bronwyn
11-04-2009, 05:14 PM
Think 'sinister'.
:tap:
I know what you mean, but in reality technology already makes it possible to frame someone for something.
Larry Gude
11-04-2009, 05:17 PM
I know what you mean, but in reality technology already makes it possible to frame someone for something.
And the patriot act provides the government cover for it. :buddies:
Bronwyn
11-04-2009, 05:20 PM
And the patriot act provides the government cover for it. :buddies:
:lmao:
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