I agree that taking guns away from those of us who can handle them responsibly is outrageous. I'll put it simply, the only people who have crack in the U.S. other than the authorities are using it in a harmful way. When you take guns away from those of us doing the right thing, the only ones who have them are the authorities and the criminals. Also Ken there is a gun in production where you have to unlock it with a key as part of a safety issue. The device is on the gun itself not just a trigger guard. I don't remember who makes it but I could find out and give you more details on it.

Originally posted by thedoug
Also Ken there is a gun in production where you have to unlock it with a key as part of a safety issue. The device is on the gun itself not just a trigger guard. I don't remember who makes it but I could find out and give you more details on it.
thedoug,

Welcome, all the way from Korea, you don't have a mother that runs a website, do you?

Luckily, we now have a new Governor that said he will do away with this idiotic law requiring these devices on guns used for self protection. We'll see if he is successful. Locking mechanisms, such as the one you describe, hamper ones ability to rapidly defend themselves should the need arise.

What manufacturer is making the "keyed gun"?

Ken King, I know that Smith & Wesson, as well as Beretta USA are working on a model that requires the wearing of a watch on your shooting hand. This watch has an electromagnetic "signature" that activates the firing circuitry of the applicable handgun. Without this "watch-key," the gun is inert. They went this route so that you wouldn't have to fumble with keys if the situation was desperate.

Not sure how it has worked out, but I think S&W might have something on the market already along those lines.

Yes, Ken, that's my boy! I PMed him and told him that reading these forums will cause impotency but I don't think he believes me.
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Originally posted by MDindef
[b]... This watch has an electromagnetic "signature" that activates the firing circuitry of the applicable handgun. Without this "watch-key," the gun is inert. They went this route so that you wouldn't have to fumble with keys if the situation was desperate... No. Instead you have to feel around in the dark for a watch!

And hope you don't pick up the Seiko by mistake!

Didn't say it was perfect, but it's better than a key set-up. The thing I'd worry about is whether or not the electronics would "fail" at the moment of truth.

I'd wire the watch to the gun.


:yay: Safety first! :yay:

Originally posted by MDindef
Ken King, I know that Smith & Wesson, as well as Beretta USA are working on a model that requires the wearing of a watch on your shooting hand. This watch has an electromagnetic "signature" that activates the firing circuitry of the applicable handgun. Without this "watch-key," the gun is inert. They went this route so that you wouldn't have to fumble with keys if the situation was desperate.

Not sure how it has worked out, but I think S&W might have something on the market already along those lines.
I know they are working on them too, but my issue isn't which company has them. It is that they impede the ability of a person attempting to protect themselves from an attack. Looking for a key, a watch, or remembering the touch sequence for some of these integrated locks could result in a death for the weapon owner.

Originally posted by vraiblonde
Yes, Ken, that's my boy! I PMed him and told him that reading these forums will cause impotency but I don't think he believes me.
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Don't believe her Doug. A little Peach Oscar and a LBFM will take care of the impotency.

Originally posted by Ken King
LBFM

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Originally posted by Ken King
Don't believe her Doug. A little Peach Oscar and a LBFM will take care of the impotency.

:eek: :eek: :eek: Is right! LOL! I've not heard LBFM in a long time! :roflmao:

Doug probably won't be coming on here for awhile, I wouldn't guess, so I'll answer for him. They've been confined to base since the trial - not going anywhere. He said that some South Koreans broke through the gate and caused some pandemonium until the MPs got hold of them. He's stationed at Camp Red Cloud (in Uijongbu, which is like an hour north of Seoul).

Apparently the accident was TRULY an accident - the guys were just driving and the girls ran out in the road. That's why they were acquitted. Doug says it's kind of embarrassing because of all the demonstrators and the "Go Home Americans" signs outside the base.

It kind of makes you think, though. On one hand, I'd say to hell with them - send all the troops home and let the Commies have their way with the South Koreans. But the demonstrators are just a bunch of freaks - they don't understand or care WHY the government wants a US presence over there. So what are ya gonna do?

Been kinda busy lately and haven't been able to get on or look for who makes the key lock gun. As far as the accident goes the accident should be pinned more on the company commander as he did not make the proper procedures to send out a convoy. The girls were on a narrower street heading to a birthday party and a 49 ton vehicle with limited view from the driver and vehicle commander. Radios didn't work and the vehicles up ahead were not able to let them know that the girls were there. They saw the girls as one of their heads was almost right next to the vehicle and at that point it was too late. The shopowners want us around. A lot of the shops are set up right off of the posts and that's how they make a lot of their money. We are aloud to go back into town now but have to be back on post by 2200. I was in town today and had no problem walking around with 3 other people and shopping. Most of the problem is with the college age kids and not the adults. Sometimes you'll have trouble getting a cab but I've only had it happen to me once. The protestors are typically your fair weather fans and going into a cold season they won't be out too much. There are a couple violent groups but you can tell by them wearing bandanas for protection. Other than that it's not that bad here.

:cheers: Hi, thedoug. I was stationed at Osan AB in the mid to late '80s. If you are about an hour north of Seoul, you must be close to the DMZ, no? Do they still serve Soju? (for those of you unfamiliar with said beverage, it' never less than 80 proof, but not more than 190, they told us!).
Darned place I ever saw; the Korean rice farmers will find the most unlikeliest of places to plant a rice paddy.
Ken, I saw an article on "American Shooter" that is on the OLN satellite programming network. They did show a Beretta
and a Smith & Wesson firearm with those "advanced" gun safety
features. In our craze to make guns safer, I think we are taking a step backwards.
If your intent is to have a sidearm next to you where you sleep, the last thing you need is to have to fumble around in the dark, trying to find the magnetic safety release so you can defend yourself! And, I am not going to turn the lights on in the room so if the intruder is close, he can spot me easier.

penn