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Old 11-05-2009, 11:40 AM   #11 (permalink)
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And compatibility. If it were my first computer and I were building software and peripherals around it, I'd go for a Mac. But as it stands...
True dat.

Do you get consumer reports? The new issue runs down their lists of tested platforms. I'll guess that you'll be needing a true work horse computer, I can give you their recommendations and where to buy tips.

Macs don't suck!
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:47 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Macs don't suck!
Macs suck because they don't play nicely with others. The elitist snobs of the computer world, disdainfully sipping their cognac and listening to Mozart, looking down on the little people while the rest of the world is drinking beer and playing Rock Band.
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:51 AM   #13 (permalink)
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CR Recommended for gamers and power users:

HP Pavilion Elite (m9650f)
6GB memory
750GB hard drive
512 video memory

$1,150

OR

HP Pavilion Elite (e9120f)
8GB memory
1024 GB hard drive
512 video memory

$720

The first one scored an 85 and the second a 78 with the difference being in the "performance" category.



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Macs suck because they don't play nicely with others. The elitist snobs of the computer world, disdainfully sipping their cognac and listening to Mozart, looking down on the little people while the rest of the world is drinking beer and playing Rock Band.
I've never had cognac, but I have been known to listen to Mozart. Besides, I tried Rockband once and the game laughed at me.
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Thanks, Kom!

HP used to be somewhat of a dog - nice to see them getting good reviews!
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:21 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Are you looking for a desktop or laptop?

If laptop, then I would reccomend the Dell Studio 17. It is a major workhorse machine and is beautiful to look at. I got one for my wife and it has never caused her one problem. She also uses it heavily for work on average of 10 hours a day.

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And Bestbuy has a nicely configured Studio 17 for less than $800.
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:30 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I have a Dell XPS710... 3.0 GB of RAM. ...4 "250" gig hard drives that I can swap in and out to save data which gives me a working load of ONE terabyte of hard drive space!!!...2.39 GHz...two huge cooling fans..weights a lot....and it is huge...
Oh, I have 3 optical drives a 3 1.2 floppy drive and a multicard reader...

I have never had any trouble with it..never acted up... no BSD.....nothing..
I do a lot of photography...and it handles many Adobe programs at once.

Oh...and it is Win XP.....Home Edition...again, never any problems...

I would buy an XPS again.

I went to the Dell Outlet site and bought it there and saved 100's....UPS delivered ...Love my Dell!!!
I am running a Dell XPS 600 and it is my workhorse - NEVER an issue.

Previous to that was an XPS Gen 5, still runs like a clock, it is my CentOS box.

I have two laptops, XPS 1710 and 1530, both are rock solid.

I just ordered a new machine, AlienWare Area51 (XPS on steroids), I-750 Extreme Liquid Cooled processors - this will be my main machine and the 600 will be a backup.

Vrai - all I own are Dell's and they have never let me down.
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:59 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Macs suck because they don't play nicely with others. The elitist snobs of the computer world, disdainfully sipping their cognac and listening to Mozart, looking down on the little people while the rest of the world is drinking beer and playing Rock Band.
Warning: Some of this is a rant.

That's not so much true anymore. Macs are now much more compatible with the PC/Windows world. Beyond specific application compatibility, you can run Windows on top of the Mas OS, and you can even run Windows as the native OS on a Mac.

The reason Macs haven't played well with the Windows world in the past is, well, because Windows is junk - it always has been. It has so many design and execution problems, not to mention having to deal with viruses and such. It's just crap. I know, I have 2 Compaqs, 1 HP and 1 Apple laptop. When I'm mobile and using the Apple laptop, it's like night and day. It just works. Apps don't freeze up, stuff doesn't just happen for no apparent reason. At some point I'll stop being complacent and just make the conversion to Apple for all of my computing needs. Working in the Windows world, and not being a computer person (meaning I've never bothered to develop a vast understanding of what underlies the computer's operation, I'm not a programmer, or support person, or tech person) is very frustrating.

PCs are more for people who want to be able to get under the hood and mess with stuff - fix things - for people that kinda want little things to go wrong so they can figure out how to fix it. If you want to have to know what's going on under the hood, and get a little grease on your hands from time to time - then the PC world suits you. Macs are for people that just want things to work - the same every time. They want to get in the car, start it up, and go where they want to go. They don't care about what is going on under the hood, they just don't want to ever have to know about it or fiddle with it. In some aspects of life, I want to know what's going on under the hood - but with this particular tool, I just want it to work - predictably and reliably. I know 2 people who are tech/support types and they both tell me, thank god for Microsoft. Its fouled-up-ed-ness has created an entire industry that isn't nearly as needed in the Mac world.

Microsoft had one stroke of genius in its history. They have rode and leveraged that one stroke of genius ever since, in order to make themselves the dominant force in the computer world. As a company, they are complacent, they don't create an environment in which 'getting it right' is emphasized, and they aren't' the least bit innovative. They've ridden on their past for decades now, and that shows through in their products. Their dominance, and failure to live up to the level of competence needed from someone in that position, has effectively stifled the computer world. They have held that world hostage for quite some time. I'm not suggesting that they haven't had the right to - just pointing out what they've done. They earned the right to do what they did, by positioning themselves correctly to begin with.

All that said, it may well still be the case that Macs wouldn't serve your particular needs.
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:00 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Thanks, Kom!

HP used to be somewhat of a dog - nice to see them getting good reviews!
I have a new HP. You should check it out before you make a decision.
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my current home desktop i built myself about 2 years ago. i spent about 1000 for all the parts, whereas a comparable dell machine would have been about 1500 or so. it's really easy to do, its basically just matching the specs on different components and all mobos say which components they support.

but, if you're looking for a laptop, i bought my wife 2 HPs (DV6z and a DV6t) that i've been happy with so far.
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