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Old 12-10-2012, 01:04 PM   #1
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Nest Thermostat

Anyone have a Nest?

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I got one on Saturday. Installed it yesterday. Figuring out the best way configure it. It's controlable from the WWW and from my phone.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:18 PM   #2
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I was contemplating getting them but I would need 3 (zones) and I installed programable ones about a year ago. Maybe if the price comes down quite a bit I'll swap them out. They do look cool and have neat technology.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:19 PM   #3
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We've been eyeing that as well. Please keep us posted on what you like and don't like about it.
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I didn't like that you had to create an account on their servers to take advantage of the remote stuff. No way to know what info they glean from it, like when you're home, and if the info could be hacked.
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I didn't like that you had to create an account on their servers to take advantage of the remote stuff. No way to know what info they glean from it, like when you're home, and if the info could be hacked.

Oh now my husband will probably change his mind. He gets really weirded out by the thought of letting anyone else potentially knowing/controlling that sort of stuff.

When you adjust your settings via this account, is there any information that would be specifically telling to whether or not you are away from home? Like, does it get a label "home" or "away" status?
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Oh now my husband will probably change his mind. He gets really weirded out by the thought of letting anyone else potentially knowing/controlling that sort of stuff.

When you adjust your settings via this account, is there any information that would be specifically telling to whether or not you are away from home? Like, does it get a label "home" or "away" status?
The thermostat itself is 'smart'. It uses sensors to detect your presence and adjusts the heat/cook accordingly. It remembers patterns, self-learning. If that info is available or transmitted unencrypted over the 'net, it's possible that info could be available.

Yes, I wear a tin foil hat. I was brought up in a secure computing environment, so I look at things differently that others might ignore. Same reason I don't have a Facebook account and millions of others do.
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:03 PM   #7
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I've been eying them, but I just don't think it's going to be significantly better than my current programmable thermostat.
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Anyone have a Nest?

Nest | The Learning#Thermostat | Home

I got one on Saturday. Installed it yesterday. Figuring out the best way configure it. It's controlable from the WWW and from my phone.
I saw them a few weeks back. Pretty cool, but wondered what it did that my current programmable thermostat couldn't. It didn't seem worth the cost.
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Oh now my husband will probably change his mind. He gets really weirded out by the thought of letting anyone else potentially knowing/controlling that sort of stuff.

When you adjust your settings via this account, is there any information that would be specifically telling to whether or not you are away from home? Like, does it get a label "home" or "away" status?

"weirded out by the thought of letting anyone else potentially knowing/controlling that sort of stuff"
I don't know what he is worried about.It is all to late to be concerned!

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Old 12-10-2012, 03:47 PM   #10
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The thermostat itself is 'smart'. It uses sensors to detect your presence and adjusts the heat/cook accordingly. It remembers patterns, self-learning. If that info is available or transmitted unencrypted over the 'net, it's possible that info could be available.

Yes, I wear a tin foil hat. I was brought up in a secure computing environment, so I look at things differently that others might ignore. Same reason I don't have a Facebook account and millions of others do.
The info that goes over the Interent is encrypted in the same manner that bank transactions are. So, if this thing isn't safe, your online bank transactions aren't safe either. If you're comfortable with online banking, you shouldn't have a problem with the Nest. As far as knowing when people are home, I can use the Website or my phone to adjust the temps whether I'm at home or away so an adjustment made via the app doesn't have to mean that I'm not at home.
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