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[Baja28 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by blazinlow89

Baja, a bit of topic, where did you get the short sliding window blinds. Lowes wanted me to pay $85 and then have them cut the blinds shorter. Wondering if you found them in that length.

Sorry Blazin, I just saw this. I believe I bought them through Walmart many years ago. I specified the length.

Originally Posted by unlisted

That difference will be like night and day.

I have coax run from the Tivo to the TV now (5'). How can an HDMI cable be better than coax?

[itsbob]

Originally Posted by Baja28

Sorry Blazin, I just saw this. I believe I bought them through Walmart many years ago. I specified the length.


I have coax run from the Tivo to the TV now (5'). How can an HDMI cable be better than coax?

Actually a good question: If the signal coming into your house is through COAX how can using an HDMI cable downstream make any improvements over the original signal coming in on COAX?


How can there be any quality differences between running COAX and HDMI between components? Will it make the picture better?

The reason why the picture quality of HDMI exceeds that of coaxial cable is the manner in which the cable is made, in conjunction with how the equipment is designed to handle data. Nine internal wires carry the picture and sound data along the TMDS, or Transition Minimized Differential Signaling channel. Like all digital connections, this requires encoding and decoding at each end of the hardware chain.

Whereas:

Coaxial cables use an "F" connector. This threaded termination has been used on televisions, VCRs and gaming systems for decades. The bandwidth of coaxial cable makes it ideal for sending digital data from cable and satellite services to the decoder boxes inside the house. However, when a coaxial cable is used as an interconnect between the hardware and television, it forces audio and video over the single copper center conductor on the cable. This limits resolution to slightly over 300 lines, and audio to stereo

[GWguy]

Originally Posted by itsbob

Actually a good question: If the signal coming into your house is through COAX how can using an HDMI cable downstream make any improvements over the original signal coming in on COAX?


How can there be any quality differences between running COAX and HDMI between components? Will it make the picture better?

The reason why the picture quality of HDMI exceeds that of coaxial cable is the manner in which the cable is made, in conjunction with how the equipment is designed to handle data. Nine internal wires carry the picture and sound data along the TMDS, or Transition Minimized Differential Signaling channel. Like all digital connections, this requires encoding and decoding at each end of the hardware chain.

Whereas:

Coaxial cables use an "F" connector. This threaded termination has been used on televisions, VCRs and gaming systems for decades. The bandwidth of coaxial cable makes it ideal for sending digital data from cable and satellite services to the decoder boxes inside the house. However, when a coaxial cable is used as an interconnect between the hardware and television, it forces audio and video over the single copper center conductor on the cable. This limits resolution to slightly over 300 lines, and audio to stereo

To add to that, the original TV signal is high quality, and digitized. All of the original content is there in digital form. The digital signal is then pumped out on an RF broadband carrier (cable). The TIVO box reconstructs the digital signal. The output from the TIVO can be coax RF baseband, not broadband (lowest quality signal with embedded audio), composite (yellow wire for video, red/white for stereo audio), still pretty awful), 'S' video (a step up from composite, but still poor, audio on separate wiring), component (3 wires for video, 2 for audio), and HDMI (one cable v1.4, carries full HD 1080p compliant video, plus 5.1 audio, plus reverse controlling cabability, plus 3D protocols).

It makes all the sense in the world to provide the BEST signal quality you can to your TV.

Analogy: Alaskan Pipeline carrying hundreds of thousands of gallons a minute (cable). Somewhere on that pipeline you tap off the flow into a straw (your RF cable to the TV) to fill a tanker truck (your TV). Replace the straw with a 6" hose.

[Baja28 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by itsbob

Actually a good question: If the signal coming into your house is through COAX how can using an HDMI cable downstream make any improvements over the original signal coming in on COAX?

How can there be any quality differences between running COAX and HDMI between components? Will it make the picture better?

The reason why the picture quality of HDMI exceeds that of coaxial cable is the manner in which the cable is made, in conjunction with how the equipment is designed to handle data. Nine internal wires carry the picture and sound data along the TMDS, or Transition Minimized Differential Signaling channel. Like all digital connections, this requires encoding and decoding at each end of the hardware chain.

Whereas:

Coaxial cables use an "F" connector. This threaded termination has been used on televisions, VCRs and gaming systems for decades. The bandwidth of coaxial cable makes it ideal for sending digital data from cable and satellite services to the decoder boxes inside the house. However, when a coaxial cable is used as an interconnect between the hardware and television, it forces audio and video over the single copper center conductor on the cable. This limits resolution to slightly over 300 lines, and audio to stereo

Originally Posted by GWguy

To add to that, the original TV signal is high quality, and digitized. All of the original content is there in digital form. The digital signal is then pumped out on an RF broadband carrier (cable). The TIVO box reconstructs the digital signal. The output from the TIVO can be coax RF baseband, not broadband (lowest quality signal with embedded audio), composite (yellow wire for video, red/white for stereo audio), still pretty awful), 'S' video (a step up from composite, but still poor, audio on separate wiring), component (3 wires for video, 2 for audio), and HDMI (one cable v1.4, carries full HD 1080p compliant video, plus 5.1 audio, plus reverse controlling cabability, plus 3D protocols).

It makes all the sense in the world to provide the BEST signal quality you can to your TV.

Analogy: Alaskan Pipeline carrying hundreds of thousands of gallons a minute (cable). Somewhere on that pipeline you tap off the flow into a straw (your RF cable to the TV) to fill a tanker truck (your TV). Replace the straw with a 6" hose.

Thanks guys. Duponster said he has an HDMI cable I can try.

[GWguy]

SO.....

if you were to take the HDMI output from the TIVO and plug it into a 5.1 or 7.1 audio amp, then take the output from the amp to the TV, the amp intercepts the audio, amplifies it, conditions it and feeds it to your surround sound speakers and sub-woofer. If the original program was made in surround sound, you get surround sound with sub-woofer bass frequencies.

Now you have a reason to "crank it up" on NASCAR....

[itsbob]

Originally Posted by GWguy

To add to that, the original TV signal is high quality, and digitized. All of the original content is there in digital form. The digital signal is then pumped out on an RF broadband carrier (cable). The TIVO box reconstructs the digital signal. The output from the TIVO can be coax RF baseband, not broadband (lowest quality signal with embedded audio), composite (yellow wire for video, red/white for stereo audio), still pretty awful), 'S' video (a step up from composite, but still poor, audio on separate wiring), component (3 wires for video, 2 for audio), and HDMI (one cable v1.4, carries full HD 1080p compliant video, plus 5.1 audio, plus reverse controlling cabability, plus 3D protocols).

It makes all the sense in the world to provide the BEST signal quality you can to your TV.

Analogy: Alaskan Pipeline carrying hundreds of thousands of gallons a minute (cable). Somewhere on that pipeline you tap off the flow into a straw (your RF cable to the TV) to fill a tanker truck (your TV). Replace the straw with a 6" hose.

BUT he should be OK if he has a left circular polarity wombulated coax cable.

I doubt he does, but there is always that chance that he found one.

[itsbob]

Originally Posted by Baja28

Thanks guys. Duponster said he has an HDMI cable I can try.

Is your TV 3D capable??

[GWguy]

Originally Posted by itsbob

BUT he should be OK if he has a left circular polarity wombulated coax cable.

I doubt he does, but there is always that chance that he found one.

Yeah, but if he can locate a frazmitized dojunky, that will countermand the wombulated coax by transposing the electrical field effect caused by the free radical Cu ions.

[Baja28 (Premo)]

Wonderful.... UPS just dropped off my LG sound bar and it connects with an optical cable. Guess what the new TV does NOT have.

[GWguy]

Originally Posted by Baja28

Wonderful.... UPS just dropped off my LG sound bar and it connects with an optical cable. Guess what the new TV does NOT have.

Aw man.....

No RCA jacks?