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Old 12-06-2007, 08:42 PM   #51 (permalink)
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...don't you run this whole forum thing? Why not just pull this person's IP or emaill address and see if it is an MDP or Mr. Link...

:fearsettinginonMr.Link???:
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Old 12-06-2007, 10:53 PM   #52 (permalink)
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...don't you run this whole forum thing? Why not just pull this person's IP or emaill address and see if it is an MDP or Mr. Link...

:fearsettinginonMr.Link???:
I know John - he is not that smart! He reminds me of an older Chris Farley - but not nearly as high strung!

Seriously - John is a good guy and if I or others are in the market for a Toyota I send the business to him. If they go and visit they buy from him if they are serious...

The original poster was venting - I confirmed John's great deals as well as others...
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Old 12-06-2007, 10:56 PM   #53 (permalink)
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I read about the holdback and on this vehicle it was stated as about $550. Question for you, please. If the dealer at one dealership finds the car that you want at another dealership and they do an exchange; who gets the holdback? Thanks
I believe the one who makes the sale gets the holdback - even if dealer "A" buy the car from dealer "B", then dealer "B" sells the car to the consumer - dealer "B" gets the holdback. Do not hold me to that, but I think that is how it works (brother-in-law use to sell cars)....
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Old 12-07-2007, 01:04 PM   #54 (permalink)
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I have to disagree....The key to a successful car deal (or any other deal) is an educated consumer.
True. I also walk around the lots of dealerships wanting a vehicle not needing one.
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Old 12-07-2007, 02:40 PM   #55 (permalink)
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There was a bald-headed cueball MF'er who was the Sales Manager working at Waldorf Toyota back in October. One Saturday night after wasting a couple of hours there, he chased us down in the parking lot as we were leaving with his high pressure crap. J ended up at Ken Dixon a week later with a pleasant and fun buying experience.

So, Waldorf Toyota and the cueball chrome dome Sales Manager can bite me.

I don't know why anyone would go to a dealership and put up with all of that sales garbage. Do your homework on the internet, and go into the dealership knowing the competitive pricing of the car you want and the value of your trade.
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Old 12-07-2007, 03:00 PM   #56 (permalink)
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[quote=Oz;2542381 I don't know why anyone would go to a dealership and put up with all of that sales garbage. Do your homework on the internet, and go into the dealership knowing the competitive pricing of the car you want and the value of your trade.[/QUOTE]

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Old 12-07-2007, 03:31 PM   #57 (permalink)
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There was a bald-headed cueball MF'er who was the Sales Manager working at Waldorf Toyota back in October. One Saturday night after wasting a couple of hours there, he chased us down in the parking lot as we were leaving with his high pressure crap. J ended up at Ken Dixon a week later with a pleasant and fun buying experience.

So, Waldorf Toyota and the cueball chrome dome Sales Manager can bite me.

I don't know why anyone would go to a dealership and put up with all of that sales garbage. Do your homework on the internet, and go into the dealership knowing the competitive pricing of the car you want and the value of your trade.
Hey they were going to give me a lot of money on my POS.
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Old 12-08-2007, 09:59 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Hey they were going to give me a lot of money on my POS.
That was probably before the inexperienced "grandson" became involved in the business. It was obvious he did not "work" his way up through the company to a sales management position and therefore, his total lack of knowledge and lack of respect for the customer quickly became evident. Seems like he knew how to "schmooz" grandpa into giving him a job far out of his ability and experience.
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:23 AM   #59 (permalink)
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I know John - he is not that smart! He reminds me of an older Chris Farley - but not nearly as high strung!

Seriously - John is a good guy and if I or others are in the market for a Toyota I send the business to him. If they go and visit they buy from him if they are serious...

The original poster was venting - I confirmed John's great deals as well as others...
CLEVALLEY.....thanks for the post! You are so astute..........."I was venting", but many others missed that point. Have a great day.
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Old 12-08-2007, 11:20 AM   #60 (permalink)
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You know, when I see these gushing posts about some sales person, I always assume the poster is in fact that sales person, and not just merely a "happy customer".
After reading all this, there is definitely an agenda.
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