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Old 06-13-2007, 06:08 AM   #1
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So Sad- The truth about puppy mills

Want to know where those cute puppies at the pet store and those cute "pure bred" puppies that people sell at flea markets or on the side of roads come from?? Take 4 minutes and just watch the video and what you are supporting when you buy from these places... If you want a puppy, check your shelter or rescue groups or Petfinders.org. Its time to end this... pass this on if you care about these innocent dogs who need nothing but unconditional love...

http://stoppuppymills.org/
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Old 06-13-2007, 06:17 AM   #2
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I truly wish everyone looking for a puppy would read through this site, read the "Survivor Stories", these will break your heart.

This is what the rescues fight every day, people buying from Puppy Mills AND the back yard breeder. The BYB doesn't cause near as much damage to a local area, and usually doesn't come near to the number of ill puppies as the puppy millers do, BUT they do cause the same issues on a smaller scale.

If you are looking for a new family companion, please visit the shelter or contact your local rescues. If you "want" that purebred companion, please be willing to put out the extra money required to buy from a breeder that fully researches their breed and tests their breeding stock to ensure to the best of their abilities that the offspring will not be born with genetic problems.

These problems are man made, and only man can stop this.

Please don't buy while shelter dogs die.
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Old 06-13-2007, 11:19 AM   #4
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Want to know where those cute puppies at the pet store and those cute "pure bred" puppies that people sell at flea markets or on the side of roads come from?? Take 4 minutes and just watch the video and what you are supporting when you buy from these places... If you want a puppy, check your shelter or rescue groups or Petfinders.org. Its time to end this... pass this on if you care about these innocent dogs who need nothing but unconditional love...

http://stoppuppymills.org/
I was getting ready to post the same article/video! The videos are so disturbing, it's terribly sad to see so many dogs packed in those tiny crates and living in those conditions. Puppy Mills definitely need to go out of business!!
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Old 06-13-2007, 03:16 PM   #5
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You've gotten in trouble with your Backyard Breeder=Devil mentality ever since you started on SOMD.
Backyard Breeders may not be a viable alternative to you, but to others they are. Knowing the bloodlines of my dogs, and being able to see the disposition of the parents is important. I will continue to aquire my dogs from them.

Once again, just because YOU want to get your dogs from a shelter, doesnt mean we all have to. Just because you drive a Yugo doesnt mean we all should
Small breeders do not necessarily equate to backyard breeders. As Krazd_Kat mentions:

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If you "want" that purebred companion, please be willing to put out the extra money required to buy from a breeder that fully researches their breed and tests their breeding stock to ensure to the best of their abilities that the offspring will not be born with genetic problems.
You just need to be sure that the pups are from HEALTH TESTED parents and that the breeder is responsible and aware of any problems. This is my distinction with a backyard breeder..it's what makes them different from a responsible, yet small business, breeder. I think you confuse what Krazd_kat is saying. We aren't so much against RESPONSIBLE breeders as we are those that do it just for the money and without regard for the product they are producing.

Irresponsible breeding is not limited to puppy mills.

I agree it's nice to see where your puppy comes from. You cannot always be sure of that if you purchase from a breeder that doesn't own the stud. You're at the mercy of the breeder to be honest about the lineage and that is not always the case.

Those of us that do rescue see the ill effects of what people can do to animals. You have to excuse us if we seem a little edgy when it comes to pets. And I've been burned by a BYB as well. And I also paid big bucks for one of my dogs.

I love animals...all animals and I hate to see them used by people.
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Knowing the bloodlines of my dogs, and being able to see the disposition of the parents is important. I will continue to aquire my dogs from them.

Just because you drive a Yugo doesnt mean we all should
If you know the bloodlines of your dogs, then chances are you didn't acquire your dog from just a BYB out for the money.

As cattitude says, it's the irresponsible breeders that are the problem and that's not always a BYB.

And I don't think we should all drive Hugos... we should drive whatever we can afford to drive w/o complaining about the cost of gas....
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I do not agree with puppy mills, but I would like to know how we are suppose to stop them? If people stop buying the animals from the pet stores, what will happen to them? Aren't the animals at the pet stores just as needy as the animals in the shelter? What do you propose should be done to stop this?

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Pet Stores = supply and demand.

If the demand dries up the supply will stop. Buying a puppy from the pet store just encourages the puppy mills more. Yes they are just as needy, probably more so in some ways. But every dog bought from a pet store just keeps the cycle going.
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Pet Stores = supply and demand.

If the demand dries up the supply will stop. Buying a puppy from the pet store just encourages the puppy mills more. Yes they are just as needy, probably more so in some ways. But every dog bought from a pet store just keeps the cycle going.
Yes, I understand this, but what would happen to all of the animals that aren't purchased? I cannot imagine that they would go to an animal shelter simply because that would defeat the puppy mill purpose. Would they euthanize all of the animals that weren't purchased? Would we seriously prefer some mass euthanization of animals just to stop the puppy mills? I don't know what happens to the animals that aren't purchased at the pet stores, do you? Seriously?

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Yes, I understand this, but what would happen to all of the animals that aren't purchased? I cannot imagine that they would go to an animal shelter simply because that would defeat the puppy mill purpose. Would they euthanize all of the animals that weren't purchased? Would we seriously prefer some mass euthanization of animals just to stop the puppy mills? I don't know what happens to the animals that aren't purchased at the pet stores, do you? Seriously?

Say there are 100 puppies in petstores...and we all stop buying them. Just say they do euthanize all those puppies because nobody will buy them. Ok, so that's 100 puppies euthanized one time. Just think of all the hundreds of puppies that are bred to supply the stores...all of those lives will be saved because there would be no more petstores selling puppies.
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