Some example a Senator makes....

[MMDad]

Originally Posted by SoftballCrazy

We have no clue about the prior circumstances of the dog - .

Quoted for emphasis.

Care to elaborate on how what he did was "disgusting?"

[Toxick]

Originally Posted by Inkpen

This dude...a US Senator, there to be an example to the rest of us... got rid of his lab.
And what is a $30.00 fine to him???
Hope some big bad dog bits him in the arse ......and then some.....
Poor dog......

Was he a republican or a democrat?

[SoftballCrazy]

Originally Posted by MMDad

Quoted for emphasis.

Care to elaborate on how what he did was "disgusting?"

I don't believe I said what he did was disgusting. I said he'd need to be extra cautious rehoming a dog that has a bite history..some states have laws against it...etc...

[krazd_kat]

Originally Posted by SoftballCrazy

I don't believe I said what he did was disgusting. I said he'd need to be extra cautious rehoming a dog that has a bite history..some states have laws against it...etc...

I said it was disgusting, "giving away a biting dog".

Just MHO of course, but I hold elected officials, movie stars, athletes, etc.. to a higher standard due to the exposure their lives get.

He should have had current shots, and he should have had control of his dog so it didn't bite and of course we don't know the whole story, so HOPEFULLY he got rid of this dog with full disclosure to whomever he gave it to.

And for the record, I do think it's more humane to have YOUR dog PTS in your loving embrace than pushing an issue dog onto someone else. UNLESS the person that took this dog has the resources to retrain this dog and guarantee it will never have the opportunity to bite again.

But like everyone has said we don't know the whole story or what his comments really mean so we are .

But I still think it's "digusting" when public personalities do not remember they are in the public and act irresponsible.

[tommyjones]

Originally Posted by krazd_kat

I said it was disgusting, "giving away a biting dog".

Just MHO of course, but I hold elected officials, movie stars, athletes, etc.. to a higher standard due to the exposure their lives get.

He should have had current shots, and he should have had control of his dog so it didn't bite and of course we don't know the whole story, so HOPEFULLY he got rid of this dog with full disclosure to whomever he gave it to.

And for the record, I do think it's more humane to have YOUR dog PTS in your loving embrace than pushing an issue dog onto someone else. UNLESS the person that took this dog has the resources to retrain this dog and guarantee it will never have the opportunity to bite again.

But like everyone has said we don't know the whole story or what his comments really mean so we are .

But I still think it's "digusting" when public personalities do not remember they are in the public and act irresponsible.

you go on and on about how we dont know anything about this case, but then you insist on calling his actions irresponsible....

you dont know if the dog had ever beeen vacinated or if it was one or two days out. you dont know what happened to the dog, or how it was rehomed, (the senater might not have wanted to hear the backlash from people like YOU who would have been just as outraged had he said he put the dog down).
You dont know the circumstances of the bite, or the dog, maybe it was a rescue that was effed when he got it...


and finally, man up and say, its more humane to Put the dog To Sleep, and stop not saying it by saying "PTS while you hold its head". You are killing the dog either way. and dead is dead, unless you are some folks around here, then dead is near death, but i digress.....

[krazd_kat]

Originally Posted by tommyjones

and finally, man up and say, its more humane to Put the dog To Sleep, and stop not saying it by saying "PTS while you hold its head". You are killing the dog either way. and dead is dead, unless you are some folks around here, then dead is near death, but i digress.....

I already agreed we don't know the whole story.

And PTS is no different than saying put to sleep - both are the same thing, we could just be honest and say I took my dog to the vet to be killed... it's not going to "sleep" you are stopping a beating heart. Some things just need to be said a little more diplomatic.

[tommyjones]

Originally Posted by krazd_kat

I already agreed we don't know the whole story.

And PTS is no different than saying put to sleep - both are the same thing, we could just be honest and say I took my dog to the vet to be killed... it's not going to "sleep" you are stopping a beating heart. Some things just need to be said a little more diplomatic.

why, so you don't "feel" bad.

what a crock.

you were specifically not saying "kill the dog" to come off as compasionate, meanwhile, you were advocating something you villify others for doing.

[krazd_kat]

Originally Posted by tommyjones

why, so you don't "feel" bad.
what a crock.

you were specifically not saying "kill the dog" to come off as compasionate, meanwhile, you were advocating something you villify others for doing.

This reply has NOTHING to do with the original post but I am responding anyway...

PTS or Put to Sleep, Has NOTHING to do w/making ME FEEL BAD - it's the general public - I gladly tell people that they are getting their pet KILLED - it should be referred to as PTD or so there is no misunderstand PUT TO DEATH

If you knew anything about me and my beliefs you would see that I have NEVER villified anyone for doing the RIGHT and RESPONSIBLE thing.

But the right and responsible thing does not include:

1 - giving away an issue dog w/o full disclosure
2 - taking your pet to the shelter and dropping it off for them to KILL
3 - abandoning your pet or SHOOTING it in the head

If you honestly care enough to know more about my beliefs and what my group stands for feel free to read our mission statement on our website .

I've argued with you before and I'm not changing my beliefs and neither are you, we BOTH agree that we don't know the whole story behind this article.

[Bustem' Down]

Originally Posted by krazd_kat

If the dog is agressive and YOU can't deal with the problems, then YOU should have your pet HUMANELY PTS, with YOU holding it at the vets office, NOT dropping it at the shelter and have them do it, or (your other wise suggestions "I guess he was supposed to shoot it? Or send it to the shelter to be killed? Or abandon it on the side of the road?"). It's called responsibility, that's all most anyone involved in rescue or the care of animals ever asks for from anyone, is that YOU take the responsibility to train and care for your dog/cat/animal the right way, and IF YOU screw that animal up then you do the RESPONSIBLE thing.

Not too mention, he doesn't say what he did with it. Did he fully disclose to someone the dogs issues? Or did he just pass a dog with issues on to the next person, in which case the dog may bite again, but next time it could be worse.

And, oh by the way, if the dog was a Pit bull would any of your responses called the owner reasonable? I doubt that.

Screw that! When it comes time to put my dog down when he's old, that's the last thing I'm going to do is hold him while I pay a man to kill him. Why on god's green earth would I want the last memory of my best friend to be him dying. I'll take him to the vet and play with him for a few minutes and then leave, so THAT is the last memory I have of him.

[tommyjones]

Originally Posted by krazd_kat

This reply has NOTHING to do with the original post but I am responding anyway...

PTS or Put to Sleep, Has NOTHING to do w/making ME FEEL BAD - it's the general public - I gladly tell people that they are getting their pet KILLED - it should be referred to as PTD or so there is no misunderstand PUT TO DEATH

If you knew anything about me and my beliefs you would see that I have NEVER villified anyone for doing the RIGHT and RESPONSIBLE thing.

But the right and responsible thing does not include:

1 - giving away an issue dog w/o full disclosure
2 - taking your pet to the shelter and dropping it off for them to KILL
3 - abandoning your pet or SHOOTING it in the head

If you honestly care enough to know more about my beliefs and what my group stands for feel free to read our mission statement on our website .

I've argued with you before and I'm not changing my beliefs and neither are you, we BOTH agree that we don't know the whole story behind this article.

and there is the problem, you think that you can decide what is right and responsible for all, and you cant.

for instance, there is nothing wrong with shooting your dog in the head to put it down, the dog feels no more pain that if you get it put to sleep. Its just hard for you to think about. get over it. killing the dog is killing the dog.


i dont see anything wrong with dropping a probelm dog off at the shelter to have them kill it either. its dead in the end either way.

giving dogs away without full disclosure happens all the time, many times it is the rescue group that doesn't fully disclose the problems. My GF "bought" a dog from a rescue group. they said he was completely a great dog other than a little barking. turns out, he bites people intermitently, usually men. it happens enough that it had to be known to the 'rescue' group, but they didn't tell so that he stood a chance of being rescued.
Dogs that bite, even cute little ones, dont get adopted.

we might never agree, but i'm not telling people what they should do with their dogs or how to live their lives.
to each his or her own.