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Old 05-17-2008, 10:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Some example a Senator makes....

This dude...a US Senator, there to be an example to the rest of us... got rid of his lab.
And what is a $30.00 fine to him???
Hope some big bad dog bits him in the arse ......and then some.....
Poor dog......


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CHATHAM, Va. -- State Senator Robert Hurt was fined for failing to vaccinate his dog for rabies after his Labrador retriever bit a man.

Retired General District Court Judge Stephen Helvin imposed the $30 fine, half the normal $60 penalty. Halifax County Commonwealth's Attorney Kimberley White asked for the reduced fine because Hurt had the dog vaccinated before his court date Thursday.

Hurt did not appear in court. He pleaded no contest to the charge through his attorney Luis Abreu.

Hurt's dog bit the man on the leg in December. Abreu told the judge Hurt agreed to pay the man's medical expenses for the series of rabies shots he had to take as a precaution.

Hurt represents Danville and Pittsylvania County. He told The Register & Bee of Danville (local newspsper...) that he has given the dog away
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Old 05-19-2008, 12:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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This dude...a US Senator, there to be an example to the rest of us... got rid of his lab.
And what is a $30.00 fine to him???
Hope some big bad dog bits him in the arse ......and then some.....
Poor dog......
that's pretty disgusting all the way around (story - not your comment, I agree with you.....)
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:05 AM   #3 (permalink)
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that's pretty disgusting all the way around (story - not your comment, I agree with you.....)
i dont see what is so disgusting. granted he should have had his dogs shots up to date, but he probably got rid of it BECAUSE IT BITES PEOPLE.

seems like quite a reasonable thing to do if you have a dog that bites people.
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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i dont see what is so disgusting. granted he should have had his dogs shots up to date, but he probably got rid of it BECAUSE IT BITES PEOPLE.

seems like quite a reasonable thing to do if you have a dog that bites people.
I have to agree. He paid the medical expenses for the guy who was bitten. He got the dog vaccinated, although it was late. He was charged and fined just like any other person. Then he got rid of the dog since he obviously couldn't care for it adequately.

I guess he was supposed to shoot it? Or send it to the shelter to be killed? Or abandon it on the side of the road?
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:17 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I have to agree. He paid the medical expenses for the guy who was bitten. He got the dog vaccinated, although it was late. He was charged and fined just like any other person. Then he got rid of the dog since he obviously couldn't care for it adequately.

I guess he was supposed to shoot it? Or send it to the shelter to be killed? Or abandon it on the side of the road?
If the dog is agressive and YOU can't deal with the problems, then YOU should have your pet HUMANELY PTS, with YOU holding it at the vets office, NOT dropping it at the shelter and have them do it, or (your other wise suggestions "I guess he was supposed to shoot it? Or send it to the shelter to be killed? Or abandon it on the side of the road?"). It's called responsibility, that's all most anyone involved in rescue or the care of animals ever asks for from anyone, is that YOU take the responsibility to train and care for your dog/cat/animal the right way, and IF YOU screw that animal up then you do the RESPONSIBLE thing.

Not too mention, he doesn't say what he did with it. Did he fully disclose to someone the dogs issues? Or did he just pass a dog with issues on to the next person, in which case the dog may bite again, but next time it could be worse.

And, oh by the way, if the dog was a Pit bull would any of your responses called the owner reasonable? I doubt that.
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If the dog is agressive and YOU can't deal with the problems, then YOU should have your pet HUMANELY PTS, with YOU holding it at the vets office, NOT dropping it at the shelter and have them do it, or (your other wise suggestions "I guess he was supposed to shoot it? Or send it to the shelter to be killed? Or abandon it on the side of the road?"). It's called responsibility, that's all most anyone involved in rescue or the care of animals ever asks for from anyone, is that YOU take the responsibility to train and care for your dog/cat/animal the right way, and IF YOU screw that animal up then you do the RESPONSIBLE thing.

Not too mention, he doesn't say what he did with it. Did he fully disclose to someone the dogs issues? Or did he just pass a dog with issues on to the next person, in which case the dog may bite again, but next time it could be worse.

And, oh by the way, if the dog was a Pit bull would any of your responses called the owner reasonable? I doubt that.
you are again reading way more into the story than was written.
From what we know from the story he had a dog that wasn't vacinated, it bit someone, he paid for their medical care and got the dog vacinated, and then gave it away.

anything further you are maing up, there was nothing disgusting in the story.


if you want to maek things up to add to the story....
maybe the dog was phsyco and attacked randomly
maybe he was well trained but still tripped
maybe "gave the dog away" was his was off saying "got it put down"
maybe he took it to a nice farm to live where it could run all day
maybe he too it to Ceaser and it is living with his pack now



like i said, i dont see anything to indicate that this dog wasn't trained, or that he didn't do the responsible thing when he got rid of it.
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:32 AM   #7 (permalink)
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If the dog is agressive and YOU can't deal with the problems, then YOU should have your pet HUMANELY PTS.
You're saying it's better to kill the dog than to find it a better home? How is that responsible? That sounds like taking the easy way out.
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You're saying it's better to kill the dog than to find it a better home? How is that responsible? That sounds like taking the easy way out.
I don't think the article said why the dog bit - any underlying circumstances that could've surrounded it - or if the dog just has a biting/mental type problem. I'm not sure how responsible it is to rehome a dog that has bitten - and how they found someone to take him knowing that he bit.
Below is from the PBRC website...

Behavior problems...
If you got your dog as a puppy and he now has a behavior problem you can't live with, you must accept the fact that you are at least partly responsible for the way your dog is now.
You have 4 options:
1. You can continue to live with your dog the way he is.
2. You can get help to correct the problem.
3. You can try to give your problem to someone else.
4. You can have the dog euthanized.
Obviously the first option is out or you wouldn't be reading this page. You're probably most interested in Option 3 so let's talk frankly about that for a moment.
If you were looking for a dog and could select from all kinds of dogs and puppies, would you deliberately choose one with a behavior problem? No, certainly not - and neither would anyone else. To make your dog desirable to other people, you're going to have to take some action to fix his problems.
Most behavior problems aren't that hard to solve. We can help you with them if you'll give it a try. PBRC can assist you via email in helping your dog become a good canine citizen and an “easier to live with” family member. Don't hesitate to write us a note, and one of our volunteer will be happy to give you some tips and leads in order to help you resolve the problems you may have with your dog.
Think hard about Option 2 before deciding it won't work for you - because the only option you have left is number 4: Having the dog euthanized. That's the bottom line. If you, who know and love the dog best, won't give him another chance, why should anyone else? Think about that.
IF YOUR DOG HAS EVER BITTEN ANYONE...
If your dog is aggressive with people or has ever bitten anyone, you can't, in good conscience, give him to anyone else. Could you live with yourself if that dog hurt another person, especially a child? Can you deal with the lawsuit that could result from it? You stand to lose your home and everything else you own. Lawsuits from dog bites are settling for millions of dollars in damages.
Our society today has zero tolerance for a dog with a bite history, no matter how minor. A dog that has bitten - whether or not it was his fault - is considered by law to be a dangerous dog. In some states, it's illegal to sell or give away a biting dog. No insurance company will cover a family with a biting dog. And to be perfectly honest, no responsible person in his right mind would want to adopt a biting dog.
No matter how much you love your dog, if he has ever bitten anyone, you only have two responsible choices - take him to a professional trainer or behaviorist for evaluation and maybe the dog can be rehabilitated. This could be costly and time consuming but could be very rewarding. If this is not an option for you, take him to your veterinarian and have him humanely euthanized. Don't leave him at a shelter where he might be frightened and confused and put other people at risk. Don't try to place him as a "guard dog" where he might be neglected, abused or used for dog fighting.
As hard as it is to face, putting a potentially dangerous biting dog to sleep is often the only safe and responsible thing to do.
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I don't think the article said why the dog bit - any underlying circumstances that could've surrounded it - or if the dog just has a biting/mental type problem. I'm not sure how responsible it is to rehome a dog that has bitten - and how they found someone to take him knowing that he bit.
As hard as it is to face, putting a potentially dangerous biting dog to sleep is often the only safe and responsible thing to do.
and if he would have gotten it put down you and the others would still be atacking him for creating this problem dog.


from what the article says you cannot come to any conclusion as to why the dog bit, or as to the home it was placed in. as i said, for all we know "got rid it" means "put it down"
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and if he would have gotten it put down you and the others would still be atacking him for creating this problem dog.


from what the article says you cannot come to any conclusion as to why the dog bit, or as to the home it was placed in. as i said, for all we know "got rid it" means "put it down"

We have no clue about the prior circumstances of the dog - what did or didn't happen - if he trained it - if it was tied up 24/7 - no idea. The most responsible thing to do if the dog bit someone, is to take every precaution prior to rehoming it and letting any potential new owner know about the bite history. If he decided to end the dog's life, the dog couldn't be rehabiliated/etc, then by all means hold the dog's head while its getting that last injection and show it some love - instead of dumping it at the shelter where it sits for days or wks alone and scared, wondering what happened to its family, when it finally gets tossed in the gas chamber to die a horrible way.
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