Boy suspended for buying knife at school

[Merlin99 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by NorthBeachPerso

Ten day suspension, request for expulsion. That's standard. He'll likely get long term suspension for the rest of the semester, coming back in January.

So they can get a kid out of the classroom for this, but they can't get the little bastards that disrupt the class continuously, who don't even want to be there and are keeping the ones that are trying to make something of themselves from getting the teaching time they deserve.




As you can see, I needed more teaching time to learn to not run on sentences.

[NorthBeachPerso]

Originally Posted by Merlin99

So they can get a kid out of the classroom for this, but they can't get the little bastards that disrupt the class continuously, who don't even want to be there and are keeping the ones that are trying to make something of themselves from getting the teaching time they deserve.




As you can see, I needed more teaching time to learn to not run on sentences.

I don't do English structure. To answer your question, yes. The reaction is to blame the school system but these rules don't originate there. They come from MSDE and are supported/adopted by the Legislature. Add the requirements of NCLB and Race to the Top and this is what you get. Remember, under those mandates every suspension, every expulsion, every drop out, every pregnant girl counts against you.

[inkah]

Originally Posted by itsbob

That's the whole idea behind 'ZERO tolerance laws..

I know of a kid who was suspended in 2nd grade for having a plastic fork from the lunch room in his pocket that he accidentally referred to as a knife.

People are crazy about this stuff.

[TPD]

I think we need TSA screeners at ALL public schools in America - lets show the rest of the world how kids should be raised and educated!

[inkah]

Originally Posted by NorthBeachPerso

Violated MD State Education Law relating to the possession of a weapon on school grounds. He could have been expelled. As it is he's receiving the maximum punishment for which the teachers will be required to send makeup work home for him to do. They're excused absences.

And what happens to his education if they expel him?

Do the parents work? Do they just quit jobs? Take him to work?

The other boy was selling lots of knives? Who else did he sell them to? Where did he get all these knives?

[NorthBeachPerso]

Originally Posted by inkah

And what happens to his education if they expel him?

Do the parents work? Do they just quit jobs? Take him to work?

The other boy was selling lots of knives? Who else did he sell them to? Where did he get all these knives?

Which kid are we talking about? The seller or the buyer. Neither will likely be expelled.

If one or both are expelled then the parents will have to make other babysitting arrangements.

Folks you can't have both ways, complain about the schools and their safety and disruption and then complain when the schools do enforce policies addressing those issues.

As it is the rules for both out of school suspensions and expulsions became stricter this year (meaning more difficult to do either) because of the issue you raised.

[awpitt]

Originally Posted by NorthBeachPerso

Which kid are we talking about? The seller or the buyer. Neither will likely be expelled.

If one or both are expelled then the parents will have to make other babysitting arrangements.

Folks you can't have both ways, complain about the schools and their safety and disruption and then complain when the schools do enforce policies addressing those issues.

As it is the rules for both out of school suspensions and expulsions became stricter this year (meaning more difficult to do either) because of the issue you raised.

Even if they do get expelled, home schooling will be provided.

[awpitt]

Originally Posted by NorthBeachPerso

Which kid are we talking about? The seller or the buyer. Neither will likely be expelled.

If one or both are expelled then the parents will have to make other babysitting arrangements.

Folks you can't have both ways, complain about the schools and their safety and disruption and then complain when the schools do enforce policies addressing those issues.

As it is the rules for both out of school suspensions and expulsions became stricter this year (meaning more difficult to do either) because of the issue you raised.

I don't think people are taking issue with enforcement of the rules. The problem is, in this case, the level of punishment does not fit the "crime" in question.

[itsbob]

Originally Posted by NorthBeachPerso

Folks you can't have both ways, complain about the schools and their safety and disruption and then complain when the schools do enforce policies addressing those issues.

That's the point, zero tolerance is a chicken #### way of SAYING you're dealing with the issues when in fact you're doing just the opposite. They aren't addressing anything.

This is the easiest way to NOT deal with it, and to just reply.. "Sorry, I have no choice." There is no difference between having a knife with the intent to harm somebody than there is an innocent kid trying to get a pocket knife to put in his tackle box.

[NorthBeachPerso]

Originally Posted by itsbob

That's the point, zero tolerance is a chicken #### way of SAYING you're dealing with the issues when in fact you're doing just the opposite. They aren't addressing anything.

This is the easiest way to NOT deal with it, and to just reply.. "Sorry, I have no choice." There is no difference between having a knife with the intent to harm somebody than there is an innocent kid trying to get a pocket knife to put in his tackle box.

No argument, but the school boards adopted the zero tolerance rules after hearing from parent after parent after parent ##### and moan (and with some heavy arm twisting from MSDE in MD and the State Boards of Education in the other states).

Calvert just elected a School Board member, 90% of whose platform was a very vague anti-bullying message. Bullying, like sexual harassment, is a nebulous concept and open to whatever interpretation you like. If you think this knife incident is bad just wait until you have kids up for extended suspension/expulsion, with required behavior counseling, for telling someone they don't like that person.