Parenting Police.

[MMDad (Premo)]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

The unjust child support violates the basic family unit, the separated parents do not even have the option

You have it backwards. The separation of the parents violated the family unit. Your separation from your wife violated the family unit. You violated the family unit. You.

The government did not become involved until YOU violated the family unit. The govenment did not grant you a divorce until YOU asked for it. YOU invited the govenrment into your family by asking for a divorce. All the govenrment did was grant you your wish.

Here's the simple solution: If you don't want the government involved in your family, don't invite them in.

Don't ask for the govenrment to dissolve your family unit, then blame them for doing so. Take a little responsisility for your actions and stop blaming others for giving you everything you asked for.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

We simply do not have a genuine democracy that people vote for the laws, we have a Republic where the Representatives make the laws for the population.

Right, and if the people didn't like the laws (say, the "immigration" law being bantered about now), the people inform the representatives that they don't want the laws as written. They inform the representatives that they will not longer be their representatives if they decide to continue on bad paths.

Thus, it is the will of the people you are fighting.

[JPC sr]

Originally Posted by MMDad

You have it backwards. The separation of the parents violated the family unit. Your separation from your wife violated the family unit. You violated the family unit. You.

A separated family is still a family unit. It is when the gov gives a declaration of divorce and orders child support and grants custody and visitations then it is the gov that does violate the family unit.

We have immoral divorce laws and a breakup the family style of gov,

but what we need is the family unit protected which is not happening now.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

A separated family is still a family unit. It is when the gov gives a declaration of divorce and orders child support and grants custody and visitations then it is the gov that does violate the family unit.

We have immoral divorce laws and a breakup the family style of gov,

but what we need is the family unit protected which is not happening now.

Protected meaning the non-custodial parent has the ability to abandon their child's needs to anyone, anyone else but that parent? That's the protection YOU seek? After all, you said if a parent moves out and minimizes their communication with their child, by their own will, then they have no moral obligation to that child. This is what YOU have said, so please explain how that's better.

[MMDad (Premo)]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

A separated family is still a family unit. It is when the gov gives a declaration of divorce and orders child support and grants custody and visitations then it is the gov that does violate the family unit.

We have immoral divorce laws and a breakup the family style of gov,

but what we need is the family unit protected which is not happening now.

Since you ignored the parts that really emphasized what your part in this is, here it is again:

YOU invited the govenrment into your family by asking for a divorce. All the govenrment did was grant you your wish.


Why do you blame the government for giving you EXACTLY what you asked for? Are you so pathectically weak that you need to be protected from yourself? If you need to be protected from yourself, it naturally follows that you'd need the government to take care of your moral obligations also, like caring for your spawn. Society needs government child support enforcement because people like you are too weak and morally corrupt to do the right thing.

If it weren't for people asking for divorces, there would be no divorce. If there were not selfish immoral losers like you abandoning their children, there would not be child support laws. Put the blame where it belongs, Jimmy. You are the problem, not the solution.

[JPC sr]

Originally Posted by This_person

Protected meaning the non-custodial parent has the ability to abandon their child's needs to anyone, anyone else but that parent? That's the protection YOU seek? After all, you said if a parent moves out and minimizes their communication with their child, by their own will, then they have no moral obligation to that child. This is what YOU have said, so please explain how that's better.

I am not saying that is better or worse, that is life and that is living.

The child support and custody and divorce laws are un-natural and un-realistic and therefore abusive and vain.

The laws are not natural and they are inhuman and destructive to a society.

[JPC sr]

Originally Posted by MMDad

Since you ignored the parts that really emphasized what your part in this is, here it is again:

YOU invited the govenrment into your family by asking for a divorce. All the govenrment did was grant you your wish.

Why do you blame the government for giving you EXACTLY what you asked for?

I withdraw my invitation.

[Ponytail]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

I withdraw my invitation.

And why wouldn't you? You've withdrawn form everything else that mattered. You withdrew from raising your child. You withdrew from becoming an upstanding citizen and a worthwhile part of society. You've withdrawn from the tax payers in order to live. You've completely withdrawn from reality.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

I am not saying that is better or worse, that is life and that is living.

The child support and custody and divorce laws are un-natural and un-realistic and therefore abusive and vain.

The laws are not natural and they are inhuman and destructive to a society.

What you suggest is inhuman. Your link's fiirst definition of inhuman says: "lacking pity, kindness, or mercy". The concept of a parent providing for their child is human nature. The men and women that don't do this are acting outside of human nature, generally through selfishness or some form of psychosis.

Society, as a whole, decided through their representatives to create a law to ensure these selfish, psychotic individuals provide for their children. That's showing mercy and kindness to the children.

The laws give enormous amounts of room for a parent trying to do the right thing to be given the grace to allow them to continue to try and do the right thing. That's pity on those less fortunate who are trying.

Punishment is meted out to those selfish and psychotic individuals only after long, diligent attempts to motivate them.

Where is the pity, kindness, and mercy in your suggestion? It's all aimed at the parent. Not the vulnerable child, the independant, self-reliant parent. That's selfish, and inhuman of that parent to wish that.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

I withdraw my invitation.

Great, give your child back his childhood.