Parenting Police.

[pixiegirl (Premo)]

Originally Posted by MMDad

You better go buy some neuticles 'cause I think Pixie is going be by soon to castrate you.

This is the best part....2) You left you husband but marriage is a life time commitment so you broke up the marriage and then expect to get paid for it. If anyone must get blamed for some wrong doing then the one that broke up the marriage needs to get full blame and you say you did it, and now you want paid for it and I think you are way out of line.

Marriage is a commitment and that's exactly why I was a wife when I was married and was true to my marriage vows. He failed the vows before I left the marriage so in reality he broke up the marriage I just finalized it. And then.... I want to get paid? I paid the lawyer to draw up the papers, I paid all the bills, I paid for my son. A little payback would be nice.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by pixiegirl

This is the best part....2) You left you husband but marriage is a life time commitment so you broke up the marriage and then expect to get paid for it. If anyone must get blamed for some wrong doing then the one that broke up the marriage needs to get full blame and you say you did it, and now you want paid for it and I think you are way out of line.

Marriage is a commitment and that's exactly why I was a wife when I was married and was true to my marriage vows. He failed the vows before I left the marriage so in reality he broke up the marriage I just finalized it. And then.... I want to get paid? I paid the lawyer to draw up the papers, I paid all the bills, I paid for my son. A little payback would be nice.

MM did you a favor a while ago.
JPC's address, should you feel a need to discuss his stupidity in person:
21705 Great Mills Lane
Lexington Park,MD 20653

[JPC sr]

Originally Posted by BadGirl

JPC, when you and your then-wife initially had your son, did you ever intend to adequately provide for your son?

Or did you have expectations that someone else (ummmmm, the government) would provide for your shortcomings?

My separation then divorce really had far too many complications to fit into any easy answer and our family would not appreciate me dragging out the dirty laundry.

But to try to reply in short: When I first separated I paid all the bills as she stayed in our house and that was rediculous as it was like I just was not home, so then I stopped and she would not file for divorce or for child support so again it was unacceptable, then it was thought that they could live off the family or the gov if need be, but since there was property and credit available then the time restraints became a problem, so I deserted to let them figure it out. It took another two years (1983) before a divorce decree was issued.

So I doubt that answers it but since you asked I did try, and it was more confusing and complicated then is described above. IMO.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

My separation then divorce really had far too many complications to fit into any easy answer and our family would not appreciate me dragging out the dirty laundry.

But to try to reply in short: When I first separated I paid all the bills as she stayed in our house and that was rediculous as it was like I just was not home, so then I stopped and she would not file for divorce or for child support so again it was unacceptable, then it was thought that they could live off the family or the gov if need be, but since there was property and credit available then the time restraints became a problem, so I deserted to let them figure it out. It took another two years (1983) before a divorce decree was issued.

So I doubt that answers it but since you asked I did try, and it was more confusing and complicated then is described above. IMO.

I guess this answers what type of abuse you believe it to be when a parent abandons their child by choice. You don't believe it's abuse because you did it, and you explained to your son on his mother's grave that you weren't sorry for the pain you caused by doing it. I know, I know, by quoting you I'm twisting your words, right? What part of being a MAN were you living up to by letting "them figure it out"? Is that what you're hoping your son will do also, abandon his offspring to 'let them figure it out'? What an example you set! I fully believe the welfare, SS, and family systems that support you now should send you out and let you "figure it out".

[JPC sr]

Originally Posted by pixiegirl

Oh one last thing, I got married in the courthouse so there was no moral obligation to stay married.

Therein lays the problem.

The gov has undermined the marriages and the gov grants the divorces.

Marriages and family are religious institutions and the gov has screwed it up and the gov does not belong in the business.

[This_person]

Another you forgot to answer, among the dozens:
So, basically you're saying that parents should not be held responsible to the standards of society with respect to providing for their children, but should be held responsible to the standards of society with respect to abuse. What type of abuse do you consider it to be when a non-custodial parent provides virtually no support directly to their child - especially when they are physically fit enough to work but choose not to provide financially for their child?

[JPC sr]

Originally Posted by This_person

I guess this answers what type of abuse you believe it to be when a parent abandons their child by choice. You don't believe it's abuse because you did it, and you explained to your son on his mother's grave that you weren't sorry for the pain you caused by doing it. I know, I know, by quoting you I'm twisting your words, right? What part of being a MAN were you living up to by letting "them figure it out"? Is that what you're hoping your son will do also, abandon his offspring to 'let them figure it out'? What an example you set! I fully believe the welfare, SS, and family systems that support you now should send you out and let you "figure it out".

Why do not you let the person answer the post before you jump in with such beligerant trash?

We are trying to have a conversation here.

It was no even talking to you.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

Why do not you let the person answer the post before you jump in with such beligerant trash?

We are trying to have a conversation here.

It was no even talking to you.

It's a group forum. Why do you not answer the questions that are not actually beligerant but just show you what you're actually saying? Are you really that afraid of your own words? Besides, your condescending judgemental attitude towards her situation, with YOUR history, isn't a conversation, it's someone else trying to teach you, and you still not learning.

[pixiegirl (Premo)]

Originally Posted by This_person

It's a group forum. Why do you not answer the questions that are not actually beligerant but just show you what you're actually saying? Are you really that afraid of your own words? Besides, your condescending judgemental attitude towards her situation, with YOUR history, isn't a conversation, it's someone else trying to teach you, and you still not learning.

In his response to Badgirl it's fairly clear that his actions were nothing short of vindictive towards his ex wife. He left and initially paid the bills, that was unacceptable. He stopped but she would not file for divorce and that was unacceptable. She couldn't get state aid because of the house so he deserted them. All vindictive actions. Maybe his ex wife WAS in the wrong and trying to take advantage of him but that does not in any way shape or form excuse his actions. Especially since he claims to be such a religious man. Two wrongs don't make a right JPC....

[MMDad (Premo)]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

Why do not you let the person answer the post before you jump in with such beligerant trash?

We are trying to have a conversation here.

It was no even talking to you.

My my, Jimmy. Getting a bit testy now, aren't we?

It's okay, just handle it the way you've handled every other adversity in your life: drugs, alcohol, and running away.