Embyo Stem Cells in MD.

[JPC sr]

President Bush has vetoed the bill for embryotic stem cell research story HERE and it is the one positive virtue in the Bush policies that he does protect the unborn people as best as he can.

That is Pesident Bush's religious base and I simply feel that I have to aplaud Bush for it. Well done. Unfortunately Bush does still lack virtue in the warmongering business.

And we have an ill-informed or immoral majority in the US Congess story HERE in this one regard of not protecting the unborn people.

And Hillary Clinton has no shame in her desire for full stem cell research that she fails to say the "embryo" word for killing babies story HERE and she is pro abortion too so that I certainly can not follow her nor vote for her.

And in my 5th District it is our lacking ethics representative Steny Hoyer that has issued his opinion that Hoyer wants the embryotic kill babies stem cell research story HERE and we need to get rid of Hoyer too.

[JPC sr]

The real message here is that our medical schools and the Doctors are baby killers and the Doctors and scientist have no conscience and they have thrown out the concepts of right and wrong because in abortions and stem cell research the Doctors have become monsters and Nazis.

Doctors no longer agree to the Hippocratic oath to do no harm, because now they do harm.

Abortion is why the oath is gone, see; "Nor will I give a woman a pessary to procure abortion."

[MMDad]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

the Doctors have become monsters and Nazis.

Wow, you are getting whackier every day! Doctors are Nazis! What a hoot!

So, are you drunk or stoned? Or both? Are you smoking it or shooting up? I'm guessing you're smoking crack again. Am I right?

[Geek]

Originally Posted by MMDad

Wow, you are getting whackier every day! Doctors are Nazis! What a hoot!

So, are you drunk or stoned? Or both? Are you smoking it or shooting up? I'm guessing you're smoking crack again. Am I right?

That would make a good poll

[JPC sr]

Originally Posted by MMDad

Wow, you are getting whackier every day! Doctors are Nazis! What a hoot!

So, are you drunk or stoned? Or both? Are you smoking it or shooting up? I'm guessing you're smoking crack again. Am I right?

Even if I were drunked up or doped up then the message is still true.

One big reason the embryo stem cell research is so controvercial is because the stem cells start out super small but those monster Doctors have to "grow" the stem cells, and the way that stem cells grow is in a baby called an "embryo" so the Doctors (scientist = Nazi) have to kill the baby / embryo and take the stem cells before the baby embryo reaches its maturity. So the claim that embryotic stem cells is just some small body fluids is false because the scientist "grow" the cells.

Of course the Doctors and scientist call it an embryo and do not call it a baby, but they do not like to show the public any pictures of it either because it does not look like an embryo to the untrained mind which only sees it as a baby.

So apparently the medical schools teach the Doctors to train their minds to see a baby as an embryo that they can carelessly destroy so that the rich people like Mrs. Ronald Reagan can live longer then is her natural fate.

[rraley]

I see supporting embryonic stem cell research as the pro-life course of action. How dare we disallow research that could one day cure diabetes, Alzheimer's, and a whole host of either diseases that have harmed innocent human life for thousands of years? So long as we are not merely creating embryos to perform research on them, why can't we take embryos that are going to be discarded anyway and see if we can find some of the major solutions to the medical problems facing billions around the world?

[JPC sr]

Originally Posted by rraley

I see supporting embryonic stem cell research as the pro-life course of action. How dare we disallow research that could one day cure diabetes, Alzheimer's, and a whole host of either diseases that have harmed innocent human life for thousands of years?

I can see why one would see it as "pro-life" but that is based on fantasy ideas that killing the innocent will save the living. It is the same principle as the innocent Christ dying on the cross for the guilty. In other old days the spiritual priest would throw a baby in the fire so the elders would live longer. We have no more proof then they of old that us killing the embryo will save lives but people still cling to that disgusting human failure that our eternal life can be found through the sacrifice of the innocent. This time it is embryos and our witch Doctors are called scientist.

A link that I like about the ethics of stem cell research is - click HERE.

Originally Posted by rraley

So long as we are not merely creating embryos to perform research on them, why can't we take embryos that are going to be discarded anyway and see if we can find some of the major solutions to the medical problems facing billions around the world?

The reports I have heard is that those embryos that are going to be discarded are not wanted for the new research. The reason those embryo cells are not used is because they were of less quality then the cells that were used. So the Doctors / scientist / baby killers do not want those cells because they are not the high quality that a fresh batch of healthy cells are. They want the new best healthies stem cells from fresh healthy embryos, and that means killing some new embryos (babies) to get the bestest cells.

They want new sacrifices, they want fresh meat.

[hvp05 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

Doctors / scientist / baby killers

I can imagine you in the year 1968... standing outside a military base holding a sign that says something similar... if that is what you thought would prove your point.

[Angel]

How about you use spell check before you start thinking you are brighter then the folks running the show?

[Toxick]

Originally Posted by rraley

I see supporting embryonic stem cell research as the pro-life course of action.

Well, I'm pro-life and I support embryonic stem cell research. But not because of the logic you present. I simply don't believe these embryos are human beings.

Originally Posted by rraley

How dare we disallow research that could one day cure diabetes, Alzheimer's, and a whole host of either diseases that have harmed innocent human life for thousands of years?

At the risk of Godwinizing the thread: Following the above logic to its extreme conclusion then we should have let the nazi's continue doing tests on human beings, on account'a the benefits reaped from such research could save innocent life.

While I endorse embryonic stem cell research, I can't agree with your logic. Too Machiavellian for my taste.

Originally Posted by rraley

So long as we are not merely creating embryos to perform research on them, why can't we take embryos that are going to be discarded anyway and see if we can find some of the major solutions to the medical problems facing billions around the world?

Because to the people that DO believe these embryos are human beings, then doing research on them is equivalent to desecrating a corpse.


No, not equivalent to.... It IS desecrating a corpse.