JPC, Rapper "50 Cent" Needs your help...

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Ken King

Answer the question @sshole.

Reading his above "answer" is just incredible, isn't it? Like nailing jello to the wall, this slippery devil

Oh, wait, no. He's just pathetic.

[Ponytail]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

All the children in the entire USA have ready and easy and free (if need be) access to all their true needs in housing, food, clothing, medical, schooling, and much more...

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From what? where do these "true needs" come from if the supporting parent won't provide it and the custodial parent can't afford it by themselves?

[JPC sr]

Originally Posted by This_person

That's right! A parent is no longer a member of their child's immediate family as soon as that parent deserts their child and runs away, maintaining no communication with them, neglecting their every need, leaving their child's well being to anyone, anyone I tell you, anyone else but themselves. That's the moral, honest, responsible way of being a parent, and if the other parent can't handle it, they can kiss his ass!!

This is why I tell you that you are promoting parenting police and all child support is - is parenting police and it has nothing to do with the condition of the children.

You are not even saying to help children but only to attack and punish parents and both you and the law are wrong for it.

[JPC sr]

Originally Posted by Ponytail

From what? where do these "true needs" come from if the supporting parent won't provide it and the custodial parent can't afford it by themselves?

They come from welfare and Social Services and from Churches and from extended family.

Remember the Waltons of Walton's Mountain which was an American way.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

This is why I tell you that you are promoting parenting police and all child support is - is parenting police and it has nothing to do with the condition of the children.

You are not even saying to help children but only to attack and punish parents and both you and the law are wrong for it.

One of your many problems is that you see providing for your own child as punishment. You see being held responsible for your obligation as a punishment. You see people suggesting reality to you as attacking. The whole POINT of child support is stated in the words - CHILD (that's who it's about) SUPPORT (that's what it is, help for the child).

This is why I tell you you are promoting immorality, dishonor, disloyalty, and generally disgusting ideas. They are.

[Ponytail]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

This is why I tell you that you are promoting parenting police and all child support is - is parenting police and it has nothing to do with the condition of the children.

You are not even saying to help children but only to attack and punish parents and both you and the law are wrong for it.

Parents have every opportunity to hammer out the details of the divorce by themselves. The government only gets involved when the details can't be agreed upon, or when one half doesn't uphold his/her end of the bargain.

You didn't provide for crap for your child. You didn't do it on your own when you had the opportunity to do so (In 3 years of separation, prior to the divorce, you provided nothing).

THAT is when the government steps in. They step in to protect the rights of the child. You gave up your rights, when you refused to protect and provide for the life of your child.

[Ponytail]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

They come from welfare and Social Services and from Churches and from extended family.

Remember the Waltons of Walton's Mountain which was an American way.

Yes, I do remember the Waltons. 3 generations of family living under one roof in poverty. What is your point?

As far as welfare and Social Services providing for your child, where does that money come from to provide those services? And why were THOSE services implemented in the first place?

[This_person]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

They come from welfare and Social Services and from Churches and from extended family.

Remember the Waltons of Walton's Mountain which was an American way.

I think the Hamner family (on whom the Walton's TV show was based) would kick your butt for claiming that their show supports your idea that parents are not responsible for their kids if they just desert them to let them "figure it out for themselves". The show, the lives, and most American lives are about taking care of your own. Why would anyone else in the family have the morals and human nature to care for their family member if that child's own parent doesn't have it?

You're asking for a double standard. A POS parent that thinks a family member isn't immediate family if they just ignore them, move away from them, neglect them enough. And, the family they were raised in taking care of that person's child for them.

Why not just let the parent do it?

[JPC sr]

Originally Posted by This_person

I think the Hamner family (on whom the Walton's TV show was based) would kick your butt for claiming that their show supports your idea that parents are not responsible for their kids if they just desert them to let them "figure it out for themselves". The show, the lives, and most American lives are about taking care of your own. Why would anyone else in the family have the morals and human nature to care for their family member if that child's own parent doesn't have it?

You're asking for a double standard. A POS parent that thinks a family member isn't immediate family if they just ignore them, move away from them, neglect them enough. And, the family they were raised in taking care of that person's child for them.

Why not just let the parent do it?

You are just misrepresenting what I have said all along,

That the parents do take care of their own children,

that there are no - not one needy child in the entire USA except because of the custodial,

and the child support system is unjust and needs to be reformed.

You cry about needy children but there is not even one needy child anywhere.

[Ponytail]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

You cry about needy children but there is not even one needy child anywhere.

With blinders on like that, you could have been on Saddam's counsel.