JPC's Campaign Song

[hvp05 (Premo)]

JPC, one of your favorite non-relevant smilies is .

So, I was thinking if you don't have one already, I'd like to make the suggestion that Everclear's "Father of Mine" become your theme song. It fits your - and your son's - story perfectly.

Father of mine
Tell me where have you been
You know I just closed my eyes
My whole world disappeared
Father of mine
Take me back to the day
When I was still your golden boy
Back before you went away
I remember the blue skies, walking the block
I loved it when you held me high
I loved to hear you talk
You would take me to the movie
You would tke me to the beach
Take me to a place inside that is so hard to reach
Father of mine
Tell me where did you go
You had the world inside your hand
But you did not seem to know
Father of mine
Tell me what do you see
When you look back at your wasted life and you don't see me
I was ten years old
Doing all that i could
It wasn't easy for me to be a scared white boy in a black neighborhood
Sometimes you would send me a birthday card
With a five dollar bill
I never understood you then and I guess I never will
Daddy gave me a name
My dad he gave me a name
Then he walked away
Daddy gave me a name
Then he walked away
My dad gave me a name
Father of mine
Tell me where have you been
I just closed my eyes
And the world disappeared
Father of mine
Tell me how do you sleep
With the children you abandoned
And the wife I saw you beat
I will never be safe
I will never be sane
I will always be weird inside
I will always be lame
Now I am a grown man
With a child of my own
And I swear I'm not going to let her know
All the pain I have known
Then he walked away
Daddy gave me a name
Then he walked away
My dad gave me a name
Then he walked away

I also thought about AC/DC's "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap", because that fits your beliefs pretty well also. But the lyrics don't work for you.

Anyone else?

[JPC sr]

Originally Posted by hvp05

JPC, one of your favorite non-relevant smilies is .

So, I was thinking if you don't have one already, I'd like to make the suggestion that Everclear's "Father of Mine" become your theme song. It fits your - and your son's - story perfectly.

I also thought about AC/DC's "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap", because that fits your beliefs pretty well also. But the lyrics don't work for you.

Anyone else?

It does seem to show that when society feeds the child support crap to children then they grow up to be brain washed adults.

That guy needs to find his real father and straighten the stuff out correctly.

And it shows that the child did not need child support cash - because he needed his dad.

It also is implied in the unsaid background that the child support is the reason that the father was not there for that son.

The unjust child support system divides families.

That family might have been getting the child support or not but the kid lost his dad and that is the real message.

So we need new laws that support the family unit and not steals money and divide the family unit.

I say that I want to do something to improve that gov child abuse.

And we have a commandment of honor thy father and thy mother so just where is the mom in that case? She is in the background too saying nothing while that boy sins against his real father. I say that boy needs correction.

So the song does show that child support and the custody laws do divide families and in that case it works for me.

[hvp05 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

I say that boy needs correction.

The rest of that was your normal , but this was HILARIOUS.

Scold the child because his father was a selfish a-hole. Wow...

[JPC sr]

Originally Posted by hvp05

The rest of that was your normal , but this was HILARIOUS.

Scold the child because his father was a selfish a-hole. Wow...

There is no real reason to believe that father was selfish about anything.

It is just making assumption without any evidence or facts.

I believe we must always assume the parents are innocent.

But for the sinful boy I would point out the command to honor thy parent(s).

It is a sign that the custodial failed to teach the boy right from wrong.

[hvp05 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

There is no real reason to believe that father was selfish about anything.

So the lyrics "Daddy gave me a name / Then he walked away" indicate to you a father who was loving, devoted and concerned about the upbringing of his child? Along with the lines about the boy seeing his mother beaten and sometimes receiving a birthday card.

Originally Posted by JPC sr

It is just making assumption without any evidence or facts.

Yeah, 10 year old kids are still pretty stupid and he probably didn't have a clue what was going on even though he was there through it all.

Originally Posted by JPC sr

I believe we must always assume the parents are innocent.

Sure, our legal system is based on that idea. But what if the parent is given a chance to speak and rams their foot in their mouth and incriminates themself to every accusation?

[JPC sr]

Originally Posted by hvp05

So the lyrics "Daddy gave me a name / Then he walked away" indicate to you a father who was loving, devoted and concerned about the upbringing of his child? Along with the lines about the boy seeing his mother beaten and sometimes receiving a birthday card.

Yeah, 10 year old kids are still pretty stupid and he probably didn't have a clue what was going on even though he was there through it all.

Sure, our legal system is based on that idea. But what if the parent is given a chance to speak and rams their foot in their mouth and incriminates themself to every accusation?

I think you missed the point of my post and of that song.

I refer back to my Maxim Page of my website, top of middle column that says:

"Evil wants victims more-so than victories."

This applies because I am telling the solution and how to fix the boy's anger toward his dad,

but hvp is only wanting to blame the dad and to poke other blame at me and fix nothing.

He wants victims more-so then victory.

To have a real victory is to fix the problem and repair the damage done to that family.

So my way has no victims because no one needs to be blamed and have a complete victory by recconciling the father with son.

The same is the case for child support reform in that I want to fix it so we can stop hurting families and stop the blame and degrading of parents.

I want victory without victims.

[hvp05 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

I refer back to my Maxim Page of my website, top of middle column that says: "Evil wants victims more-so than victories."

I see one gigantic run-on sentence. On the forum you are not a good speller, but at least you employ some normal grammar.

Originally Posted by JPC sr

but hvp is only wanting to blame the dad and to poke other blame at me and fix nothing.

Where did I mention you in the last post? Sounds like your guilty conscience is nagging you again. I'll bet that happens frequently throughout the average day.

Originally Posted by JPC sr

This applies because I am telling the solution and how to fix the boy's anger toward his dad,

So my way has no victims because no one needs to be blamed and have a complete victory by recconciling the father with son.

Okay... the only victory is for the father to not be blamed for a terrible, sad situation he created and the son to simply forget being neglected for xx years. Perfectly sensible.

I'm not blaming the songwriter's father as I do not know the details of the situation. But I did find the following on Wiki:

Art Alexakis, At a young age, Alexakis' father walked out on the family, leaving Alexakis, his mother, his brother, and his three sisters to fend for themselves. Not long after, financial difficulties forced Alexakis' mother to relocate the family to the Mar Vista Gardens housing projects in California, located in Los Angeles near Culver City.

There, Alexakis came in direct contact with the area's criminal and drug culture. Alexakis' brother George died of a heroin overdose when Alexakis was twelve.

If that is all true then yes, I think blame should be due towards the father. Do you believe the family's path would have been the same if the father had not left?

[This_person]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

There is no real reason to believe that father was selfish about anything. It is just making assumption without any evidence or facts.

I fully agree, there should be no assumptions without any evidence or facts.

Originally Posted by JPC's facts

It also is implied in the unsaid background that the child support is the reason that the father was not there for that son.
The unjust child support system divides families.

Now, where is the evidence of this, again? What line talks about the "unsaid background"? Or, are you assuming?

[MMDad]

Originally Posted by hvp05

Anyone else?

"Soy un perdedor"

[JPC sr]

Originally Posted by hvp05

Art Alexakis, At a young age, Alexakis' father walked out on the family, leaving Alexakis, his mother, his brother, and his three sisters to fend for themselves. Not long after, financial difficulties forced Alexakis' mother to relocate the family to the Mar Vista Gardens housing projects in California, located in Los Angeles near Culver City.

There, Alexakis came in direct contact with the area's criminal and drug culture. Alexakis' brother George died of a heroin overdose when Alexakis was twelve.

If that is all true then yes, I think blame should be due towards the father. Do you believe the family's path would have been the same if the father had not left?

The link says all the trouble happened after the father was gone,

so I say it is hard to blame a man that was not there.

It was the gov that forced the custodial into a trashy housing project.

Now if you / we want to stop or significantly reduce the divorces and separations to try to keep families together then I would be all for that, but it would put us against the gov again by being against the family break-up laws and gov divorces.

Even if the dad was paying the child support or not (the link and song does not say) then the gov takes the child support loot and keeps it for families on welfare, and it is highly doubtful that the man would have paid enough c/s to get that BIG family out of the gov housing project.

So again I am trying to offer a solution instead of blame and smear as the singer is doing.

We need laws and systems that protect and defend the family unit of both parents with their children and stop the immoral gov that violate the family unit and tries to stick it all on the separated parents.