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Old 11-26-2007, 09:25 AM   #121 (permalink)
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How is it misusing authority for Hoyer to attempt to retain jobs in his district?
The point was not in retaining jobs but in adding excesive growth into 5th District.

It is not the job of a Congressman to dump excessive growth onto our home and thus abusing his authority.
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Since you refer to Hoyer's profit as monetary, and agree his only real profit is votes, do you see YOU as asking for monetary gains by asking for votes?
How the greed growth profits Hoyer was not my point.

My point is that the greed driven growth harms our 5th District.
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As a candidate for a House of Reps seat, who do you see as responsible for local infrastructure - the federal government or the state and local governments?
It is Hoyer that is mis-using his authority to dump the greed growth onto our 5th District and then the State and local governments are forced to deal with the excessive growth that now overloads our infrastructure.

Trying to blame the State and local authorities for the infrastructure failures while our Congressman is behind the greed driven growth being dumped onto us will never be a cop-out of mine.
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As a candidate for a House of Reps seat, with a plank in your platform that is to rid the area of major defense contracts and contractors, where would you like to see those contracts and contractors go?
There are many Navy bases in the USA that have the infrastructure ready for those projects (not yet determined which ones) and they would love to have the contracts and contractors to move there.

The Navy Bases in Hawaii or in Norfolk or many others would be more fitting then here.
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You don't believe you do, you don't want the job, yet you keep pretending to run. Why do you do that when you know you won't win and don't want the job anyway?And, for whom will you be voting?
Because it is my duty.

I do not like it and it is painful and difficult and it would be a great burden on me if I were to win the election.

It is my religious beliefs that tell me that my duty must be done ahead of my comforts.

I will vote in the Democratic Party primary for a "Pro-Life" candidate only.
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Old 11-26-2007, 09:46 AM   #122 (permalink)
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The point was not in retaining jobs but in adding excesive growth into 5th District.

It is not the job of a Congressman to dump excessive growth onto our home and thus abusing his authority.
Actually, his point was to retain jobs. Your point seems to be to lose jobs in the area - by moving contract and contractors out of the area.

So, a follow up question would be: Do you see it as the job of a Representative to intentionally lose jobs in his/her district?
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How the greed growth profits Hoyer was not my point.

My point is that the greed driven growth harms our 5th District.
Your point or not, you claimed that Hoyer monetarily gains from the area's growth. You continue to refer to it as "greed" growth.

So, whether it was your point to insert your foot in your mouth or not, the quesiton stands:

Do you see you seeking the same "greed" as you see Hoyer seeking, since you seek to gain the same thing you (now) say he gains - votes?
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...(T)he State and local governments are forced to deal with the excessive growth that now overloads our infrastructure.
So, you do understand that it is the state and local authority's responsibility, not the federal government!

Good for you, you're demonstrating that the problem is not Hoyer's, but the state's and the county commissioners'. And, thus, whether you call it a "cop-out" to place responsibility where it lies, it is still the truth (regardless of your baseless slander and/or libel).
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There are many Navy bases in the USA that have the infrastructure ready for those projects (not yet determined which ones) and they would love to have the contracts and contractors to move there.
Do you see your statement here as being impossible to be true?
  • You claim there are many bases, yet there is only one (I'll leave it for you to research and find out where that is, Mr. Candidate).
  • You claim that the area(s) are ready for those projects, yet you don't know where they are. How can you know whether another area is ready if you don't know where that area is?
  • You claim that the people of the area(s) "would love" to have the contracts and contractors move there. If you don't know where the area(s) are, how can you claim those people want the influx? What if they're as overloaded as we are?
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The Navy Bases in Hawaii or in Norfolk or many others would be more fitting then here.
Based upon what? Mr. Candidate, shouldn't you be aware of the consequences of your platform planks (or even knowledgable about the issues) before you make such claims? Because, clearly you are not.
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It would be a great burden on me if I were to win the election.
What "burden" would you bear?
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Old 11-26-2007, 06:37 PM   #123 (permalink)
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There are many Navy bases in the USA that have the infrastructure ready for those projects (not yet determined which ones) and they would love to have the contracts and contractors to move there.
I think something rather telling has been exposed here. Consider that statement versus the earlier statement within the same post...
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It is not the job of a Congressman to dump excessive growth onto our home and thus abusing his authority.
... and TP's questions following that...
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You claim that the people of the area(s) "would love" to have the contracts and contractors move there. If you don't know where the area(s) are, how can you claim those people want the influx? What if they're as overloaded as we are?
How would you, Jimmy, know the areas receiving the new influx via the military projects are ready if you have "not yet determined" where those areas are? Furthermore, if you were to begin arbitrarily redirecting people and projects to other areas just to get them out of St. Mary's you would be guilty of the same abuses you have claimed Hoyer is.

Way to go, Candidate! You have inadvertently exposed yet another reason for voters to cast a vote for anyone but you!


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Because it is my duty. I do not like it and it is painful and difficult and it would be a great burden on me if I were to win the election.
Oh, NOW you feel obligated to a duty. 25 years too late, I'd say. You are not in so much pain that you can not sit on the forums for several hours every day, so that's a pretty weak cry for sympathy.
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Old 11-26-2007, 10:47 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Do you see it as the job of a Representative to intentionally lose jobs in his/her district?
No, but it would not be losing jobs when the jobs are simply moved out of here and to a different location.

No job lose at all in that.
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Do you see you seeking the same "greed" as you see Hoyer seeking, since you seek to gain the same thing you (now) say he gains - votes?
You are just twisting what was said.

The greed in the greed growth and it is not about "votes" and I do not say to stop the greed growth just to gain votes.

The greed growth hurts our area, and I suspect that Hoyer is honest in believing that he is making improvement through the growth but it has gone way too far and one needs to control their greed and say enough is enough.

It is like Los Vegas gambling in that when one wins some profits then when one fails to stop then they loose it all.

Greed is self destructive and in a community the greed growth will harm us all if we continue with it.
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Do you see your statement here as being impossible to be true?
No, and I gave you direct specific places that could fullfill the demand with ease.
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No, but it would not be losing jobs when the jobs are simply moved out of here and to a different location.

No job lose at all in that.
It may not be a net loss of jobs for the country, but it would be a net loss of jobs for the district.

Since you said "no" to the question, you understand that is not the job of a Representative. Clearly, you want to do a job you don't even think is the job you are asking for.
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You are just twisting what was said.

The greed in the greed growth and it is not about "votes" and I do not say to stop the greed growth just to gain votes.
So, for there to be greed, someone must be profitting. When I asked you this before (how Hoyer profits, since it was specifically his monetary gain you referred to at the time), I asked what he gained besides votes. You said your answer was my answer - votes.

So, now you contradict yourself and say it is not votes.

What is the gain? Who is the greedy person, and how do they gain from the "greed" growth?
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No, and I gave you direct specific places that could fullfill the demand with ease.
But, they can't. Do you know what's done at the base? Do you know there is only one other base with the capabilities of this base? Do you know where that base is?

Shouldn't you know these things before recommending that the contracts and contractors be removed from this area?

Shouldn't you be able to tell me what area you are saying the jobs should go to, so you can tell whether or not that area can absorb the "greed growth", and whether their infrastructure can handle the growth?


Hint: Yes, you should know the ramifications of your suggestions if you were a real candidate. You're not. I know you know this, I bring it up for others' edification.
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No job lose at all in that.
Perhaps not for the people actually employed by the military, but you are not considering the vast number of jobs that provide support and services to those people. If the military folks leave, there will be no need for the other jobs... and those people would be left cold.

Of course, that is what you wish to happen. You want St. Mary's to become some kind of ghost town. Good thing that will never happen.

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The greed in the greed growth and it is not about "votes" and I do not say to stop the greed growth just to gain votes.
I'll let TP decipher that one...

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Greed is self destructive and in a community the greed growth will harm us all if we continue with it.
Not necessarily. There is positive greed; it is what drives one to want better for themselves and their family. Without some motivation people would end up like... you.

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No, and I gave you direct specific places that could fullfill the demand with ease.
Where in the following quote did you name specific bases?
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There are many Navy bases in the USA that have the infrastructure ready for those projects (not yet determined which ones)
By your own words, you have not determined which bases will receive the projects... so how could you name them specifically?

You're retarded. You repeatedly display that you know nothing about the military or the way the base functions. Pax has received so many of the contracts not because Hoyer has "dumped" on the area, but because this base is uniquely capable of handling those projects. That's also why Pax has avoided BRAC cuts which have hurt other facilities. Moving the projects out is not just a matter of packing up and leaving, nor is it just a matter of money; in some instances it's impossible.

But you keep on with your delusions that you could have any influence whatsoever.
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Old 11-26-2007, 11:14 PM   #127 (permalink)
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It may not be a net loss of jobs for the country, but it would be a net loss of jobs for the district.

Since you said "no" to the question, you understand that is not the job of a Representative. Clearly, you want to do a job you don't even think is the job you are asking for.So, for there to be greed, someone must be profitting. When I asked you this before (how Hoyer profits, since it was specifically his monetary gain you referred to at the time), I asked what he gained besides votes. You said your answer was my answer - votes.

So, now you contradict yourself and say it is not votes.

What is the gain? Who is the greedy person, and how do they gain from the "greed" growth?But, they can't. Do you know what's done at the base? Do you know there is only one other base with the capabilities of this base? Do you know where that base is?

Shouldn't you know these things before recommending that the contracts and contractors be removed from this area?

Shouldn't you be able to tell me what area you are saying the jobs should go to, so you can tell whether or not that area can absorb the "greed growth", and whether their infrastructure can handle the growth?


Hint: Yes, you should know the ramifications of your suggestions if you were a real candidate. You're not. I know you know this, I bring it up for others' edification
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This post above is a confusing mess,

and I see no way to effectively give any response.
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Do you know what's done at the base? Do you know there is only one other base with the capabilities of this base? Do you know where that base is?
I was wondering how you would respond to that... and it was notably similar to my answer. Good job!
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This post above is a confusing mess, and I see no way to effectively give any response.
Why don't you answer mine, since it's similar? I even promise to type slowly so you can keep up.
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