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Old 11-20-2007, 02:14 PM   #81 (permalink)
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I have often heard it said as an American tradition:

That if one has nothing to add to the convesation then they need to shut up.

This T_p poster gives no opinions of his own and it is a waste of computer space.
I have added much to this conversation. I have asked serious questions of a "serious" candidate. I have posted that candidate's views, using his own words repeatedly.

If you don't like that candidate (and let's face it, who could? NOT EVEN HIS OWN SON), that is your problem, and you need to deal with it. The candidate refuses to answer questions and refuses to clarify his statements. He only attacks the messengers who seriously ask him questions he does not want to answer.

Why do you suppose a "serious" candidate would not want to answer direct questions? Especially ones that are follow-ups to his own statements? Could it be that even he doesn't like to hear his own words?
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:20 PM   #82 (permalink)
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No parents gets an abortion out of some dislike of their own baby.

The wanting for abortions are from fear and emotional turmoil and particularly from outside pressures like their parents pushing for the abortion or lack of money fueling fears, or one parent weaker than the other, and the medical clinics that make it sound pretty and sensible.

There are many sad reasons that a girl will get an abortion but the baby murdering Doctors have no fear nor problems.
Here's what the people actually getting the abortions have to say about why they're getting one:

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All abortion numbers are derived from pro-abortion sources courtesy of The Alan Guttmacher Institute and Planned Parenthood's Family Planning
Who's having abortions (age)?52% of women obtaining abortions in the U.S. are younger than 25: Women aged 20-24 obtain 32% of all abortions; Teenagers obtain 20% and girls under 15 account for 1.2%.

Who's having abortions (race)?While white women obtain 60% of all abortions, their abortion rate is well below that of minority women. Black women are more than 3 times as likely as white women to have an abortion, and Hispanic women are roughly 2 times as likely.

Who's having abortions (marital status)?64.4% of all abortions are performed on never-married women; Married women account for 18.4% of all abortions and divorced women obtain 9.4%.

Who's having abortions (religion)?
Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as "Born-again/Evangelical".

Who's having abortions (income)?
Women with family incomes less than $15,000 obtain 28.7% of all abortions; Women with family incomes between $15,000 and $29,999 obtain 19.5%; Women with family incomes between $30,000 and $59,999 obtain 38.0%; Women with family incomes over $60,000 obtain 13.8%.

Why women have abortions
1% of all abortions occur because of rape or incest; 6% of abortions occur because of potential health problems regarding either the mother or child, and 93% of all abortions occur for social reasons (i.e. the child is unwanted or inconvenient).

At what gestational ages are abortions performed:
52% of all abortions occur before the 9th week of pregnancy, 25% happen between the 9th & 10th week, 12% happen between the 11th and 12th week, 6% happen between the 13th & 15th week, 4% happen between the 16th & 20th week, and 1% of all abortions (16,450/yr.) happen after the 20th week of pregnancy.

Likelihood of abortion:An estimated 43% of all women will have at least 1 abortion by the time they are 45 years old. 47% of all abortions are performed on women who have had at least one previous abortion.

Abortion coverage:
48% of all abortion facilities provide services after the 12th week of pregnancy. 9 in 10 managed care plans routinely cover abortion or provide limited coverage. About 14% of all abortions in the United States are paid for with public funds, virtually all of which are state funds. 16 states (CA, CT, HI, ED, IL, MA , MD, MD, MN, MT, NJ, NM, NY, OR, VT, WA and WV) pay for abortions for some poor women.
There's my numbers, and source.


What was the source for your "reasoning", besides personal conjecture?
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:11 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Definitely gives his opinion. His opinion is of you though. You don't like his opinion anymore than he likes you!

LMAO!
Okay, I was wrong, and it is his opinon about me but not the subject.

The thing is that he is obsessed with me like some kind of stalker.
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:14 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Okay, I was wrong.
Repeat, repeat often. Listen to yourself repeat. Learn from yourself every time you say it.


1,000,000 times should be enough.
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:16 PM   #85 (permalink)
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It is his opinon about me but not the subject.
But, my posts are about your subject, your message. You refuse to answer my questions, and attack me instead. Please stop being so weak and answer some questions, since you "love to answer questions".
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Old 11-20-2007, 07:45 PM   #86 (permalink)
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It would be best to stop all abortions except medical emergencies, but it appears that needs to be done slowly.

The foremost thing needed is the 48 hour waiting time so the Doctors can not pressure the mothers into the abortions as it is done now.

The second trimester is an act of murder by the Doctor and the mother is violated.
Let's summarize this: you want to restrict abortions based on medical necessity; set up a 48 hour waiting period prior; and restrict them to be done within the first trimester. Those are some SPECIFIC goals! Way to go, Jimmy!! (I'm not necessarily agreeing with you, but am glad to see you could enumerate your thoughts in some sort of concise way.)

Now the question is: why was executing the same process so difficult - and apparently impossible - when TP asked you for specifics regarding Hoyer's "abuses" of power?

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it is his opinon about me but not the subject.
Did you not read his post immediately before the one where you said this? He didn't bring up how you deserted your family, didn't talk about your wife or junior, child support, or anything... besides abortion as related to your points.

I gave you credit for being on point for once, even though I can't stand you generally. Why can you not extend the same courtesy to TP? And you want to be my Representative?
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:32 PM   #87 (permalink)
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Now the question is: why was executing the same process so difficult - and apparently impossible - when TP asked you for specifics regarding Hoyer's "abuses" of power?

Why can you not extend the same courtesy to TP?
T_p does not accept my answers and he says I am lying and he said he has questions when he did not even read my postings.
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1) He does not accept my answeres and comes back with the same question and I am not going to keep repeating myself on a question that I already answered and he does not accept.

I stand by all that I say and he refuses to accept that then that is all I can do.

2) Since T_P repeatedly declares that he does not believe what I say then no matter what I say is meaningless and I object to wasting my time on some one that is too weak to believe what he is told.

I go to great effort in being both open and honest and if one does not believe it then that is that.

3) He has told me that he does not even read what I post. Apparently he does read some but he considers it a lie or else just re-word the same answer into another question as if it is a new question to the same answer.

I have tried to communicate with T_p and it hurts me that I can not do it.
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Old 11-21-2007, 08:03 AM   #88 (permalink)
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[quote=JPC sr;2503358] T_p does not accept my answers and he says I am lying and he said he has questions when he did not even read my postings.
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could you please link me to the answer of what, specifically, you are saying Hoyer is doing? I have yet to read it. Can ANYONE link me to that answer?

Could you please link me to the answer of what, specifically, you are accusing Hoyer of as far as misusing his authority? The actual action he took that is misuse? Could ANYONE link me to that answer?

Could you please link me to the answer of what, specifically, you would do to push against the "greed growth"? Not that you would push against it, but what, specifically, you would do? Could ANYONE link me to that answer?

Could you please link me to what, specific, military contracts you would cut? Could ANYONE link me to that answer?


No, I didn't think so.
This is why I think you lie. You tell me you answered these questions, but you didn't. This is around the ninth time I've asked the same questions, but you've never answered them.

You linked me to what you believe are answers, but they were the posts the questions came from. So, you must either lie when you say you answered them, or really not be able to comprehend that these are followup questions from the ambiguous answers previously given.

Which is it?


And then, on the abortion topic, I linked you to statistics that were different from your own, and asked where your conjecture came from, and you ignored that question.

Face it, Jimmy, I read your posts and they don't answer questions. You attack me every time I point out you are wrong instead of accepting you are wrong.
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:25 AM   #89 (permalink)
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This is why I think you lie.

So, you must either lie when you say you answered them,

Face it, Jimmy, I read your posts and they don't answer questions.
Well there it is.

No reply that I can give to that.
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:28 AM   #90 (permalink)
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Hmmm...

I'm going to have to read this whole thread. I haven't been in Maryland long enough to know what it is about Hoyer that you despise so much. Let me do some research and compare the two of you.
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