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Old 12-09-2007, 07:00 PM   #161 (permalink)
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Just because...

I don't want anyone to be confused on some of the frequently used terms in these discussions....


Neglect-verb 2. to be remiss in the care or treatment of: to neglect one's family; to neglect one's appearance.

Abuse-noun 1. to use wrongly or improperly; misuse: to abuse one's authority.
2. to treat in a harmful, injurious, or offensive way: to abuse a horse; to abuse one's eyesight.
3. to speak insultingly, harshly, and unjustly to or about; revile; malign.
4. to commit sexual assault upon.
5. Obsolete. to deceive or mislead.
–noun 6. wrong or improper use; misuse: the abuse of privileges.
7. harshly or coarsely insulting language: The officer heaped abuse on his men.
8. bad or improper treatment; maltreatment: The child was subjected to cruel abuse.
9. a corrupt or improper practice or custom: the abuses of a totalitarian regime.
10. rape or sexual assault.
11. Obsolete. deception.

slander-noun 1. defamation; calumny: rumors full of slander.
2. a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report: a slander against his good name.
3. Law. defamation by oral utterance rather than by writing, pictures, etc.

libel-noun 1. Law. a. defamation by written or printed words, pictures, or in any form other than by spoken words or gestures.
b. the act or crime of publishing it.
c. a formal written declaration or statement, as one containing the allegations of a plaintiff or the grounds of a charge.

2. anything that is defamatory or that maliciously or damagingly misrepresents.


Just so everyone is on the same page...seems certain people throw these words around without full understanding of them.
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Old 12-09-2007, 07:02 PM   #162 (permalink)
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Can I ask you a question or two? Why do you continue to try a reason with these people? Judging from their posts they are rude, and only make fun of you. I did some research on here. I know the things they said about your past. I understand people make mistakes and I think you are really trying to change. I may not agree with all that you post but I am astounded you have the courage to run, even after your first failure.

No one in here is perfect. They may try to make look like they are in here but they aren't. They are so narrowminded to think that if you do not fit into their little molds in the way you should think, feel or behave then there must be something wrong with you.

Correct me if I am wrong but I have never seen you resort to their childish and immature behavioe or cursing, name calling or taunting. You always seem to give it your best in answering even if all they say is the same thing over and over. These people are just a small portion of somd. Even though you did not win the first time, maybe not the second time either do not give up.

Anyone trying to better themselves and start a new leaf in life is a-ok in my book.
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I have some examples for you of how JPC name-called and taunted me. He accused me of "Kidnapping" my children and "holding them for child support money ransom, keeping their poor father from seeing them". When I tried to explain that I couldn't support them without help from their father he said I should have given them to their father who, by the way, was cruel & abusive. He accused me of hating their father & when I said we pray for their father still he accused me of basically trying to sound righteous to hide my deeds or something to that effect. I posted something where I said I was soft-hearted. He basically called me a liar because I had another post where I said it pains me greatly that I have loved ones that never got saved and they did not go to Heaven and he said if have a soft heart I couldn't say they were burning in Hell. The only time I have jumped on his case is when he has made statements like this to me. Does that make me right? No, it doesn't. Unfortunately, I am human too. Thank you for your time reading this.
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Old 12-09-2007, 07:11 PM   #163 (permalink)
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I have some examples for you of how JPC name-called and taunted me.
I felt bad for you when he said those things, because I know they took you off-guard and at one point you gave him a fair shot. As I said earlier, he used the same baseless, inflammatory argument against TP and a couple others because his delusions are black and white (i.e., "I am right and everyone else is wrong..."). A couple months ago a girl tried to explain her situation and he called her a demon; I'd have to search to find that one again though.

Nothing aggravates him more than facts, and people whose experiences completely counter his own. Keep it up!
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Old 12-09-2007, 08:37 PM   #164 (permalink)
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You need to do better research! Numerous people have tried to debate him, and it's only when he gives confusing and/or elusive answers repeatedly that one is left with calling him a loser... because he is one, and will always be one. He does not care about the law or facts, only what his twisted experiences and corrupted worldview tell him to believe.

Everything about his past that has been presented here was either originally posted by him or is somewhere on public record, so he is not some victim of slander and libel as he claims. And you are correct that he has changed in the past few years - his mind has become even further disconnected from reality.

Again, you really need to do more than 5 minutes worth of "research". Quite a few posts can be pulled up where he has "yelled" and used nasty language. The reason you see so many questions posted repeatedly is that he refuses to answer or does so in an obfuscatory way.


You can choose to join his side, but everyone else who has ever done so has given up fairly quickly because they possess at least an ounce of sanity. Or you can stay in his corner and be embarrassed right along with him. Good luck, either way!

Nobody is perfect. Taking into consideration the nonsense I see posted in here on a regular basis and the immature remarks left it karma it is hard to believe that many people in here are any better.
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Old 12-09-2007, 08:40 PM   #165 (permalink)
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The highest SAT score used to be 1600 until they recently added the essay portion boosting the possible to 2400.

Support JPC all you want, maybe you will increase his total vote tally by a factor of 2.
That is correct and those are my scores.
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Old 12-09-2007, 08:43 PM   #166 (permalink)
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Well if your book likes JPC then it's a comic book,you like people who abandon there families run away and leave a young wife and a son to fend for them selves with no help from him?You like people who turn their back on his own sons mother when she asked for help in taking care of his own son after finding out she was dying of cancer?When the courts step in and orderd child support not only didn't he pay it he went to jail so they could'nt garnish his wages not once but twice.You like lazy people who let there Mom put them on welfare and even after admitting they could work but won't becuase they will lose there free money?You like a guy who told his only son to do what he did and almost went to jail.........he would rather have his son in jail than take care of his own children.Well if you like that and think it's a small group well then .................you as much a fool as he is.
What I dont like is people who think they are so much better than others and insist on not letting people change. Change will not happen over night.

his past is his business. if it costs him the election then so be it. what happened then is over. it is none of my business. I will give him a fair chance and make the determination myself without you or anyone else trying to bully me into thinking your way.
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Old 12-09-2007, 08:46 PM   #167 (permalink)
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Princess, like I said "If he even answers". As you can see, he chose to answer this instead of your followup to me and HVP.
I see. But wouldnt it be nice if people really do try to change for the better.
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I have some examples for you of how JPC name-called and taunted me. He accused me of "Kidnapping" my children and "holding them for child support money ransom, keeping their poor father from seeing them". When I tried to explain that I couldn't support them without help from their father he said I should have given them to their father who, by the way, was cruel & abusive. He accused me of hating their father & when I said we pray for their father still he accused me of basically trying to sound righteous to hide my deeds or something to that effect. I posted something where I said I was soft-hearted. He basically called me a liar because I had another post where I said it pains me greatly that I have loved ones that never got saved and they did not go to Heaven and he said if have a soft heart I couldn't say they were burning in Hell. The only time I have jumped on his case is when he has made statements like this to me. Does that make me right? No, it doesn't. Unfortunately, I am human too. Thank you for your time reading this.

Hi what I would like see, is for him to learn and grow here too. Nobody is perfect and sometimes change can a very long time. See, we were able to talk here and I am willing to see another persons views. I think you are a wonderful person with a big heart. God sees that and that is all that matters.
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I felt bad for you when he said those things, because I know they took you off-guard and at one point you gave him a fair shot. As I said earlier, he used the same baseless, inflammatory argument against TP and a couple others because his delusions are black and white (i.e., "I am right and everyone else is wrong..."). A couple months ago a girl tried to explain her situation and he called her a demon; I'd have to search to find that one again though.

Nothing aggravates him more than facts, and people whose experiences completely counter his own. Keep it up!
A demon?
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Old 12-09-2007, 09:03 PM   #170 (permalink)
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it is hard to believe that many people in here are any better.
Better than him? Rare has been the occurence that I have met someone so twisted, self-centered, and arrogant as JPC. As TP said earlier, there is very little, if anything, redeeming about him; if only one or two people were saying that, the "unfairness" claim may be valid, but virtually everyone that has encountered him has come to realize his warped nastiness, so maybe there is something to the point.

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his past is his business.
Did you read his earlier post where he said, "I am not bashful about my history"? He put it out there; he has made it known he "deserted" his family to "figure it out for themselves," meanwhile he moved ~2,000 miles away and partied like a rock star for some 3 years without looking back to care for his son or ex-wife even a little.

His ex let him slide for those 3 years, until he was ~$27,000 in CS arrears, at which time she called CS enforcement on him... and he paid the price. Now he sees himself as the victim and uses his anger as motivation to topple the system - even though he claims his case is closed and not effectual on his current actions.

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what I would like see, is for him to learn and grow here too.
TP said that for a long time, too. You should ask him how and why he changed his mind...
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