Elections and Junk.

[MMDad (Premo)]

Originally Posted by This_person

Certainly, people here legally, migrating around and working, would be allowed to vote - as they would be legal residents of the place they are at to vote.

Why do you think that non-citizens should be allowed to vote?

Voting is, and should be, a right reserved for citizens. Period.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by MMDad

Why do you think that non-citizens should be allowed to vote?

Voting is, and should be, a right reserved for citizens. Period.

I don't think non-citizens should vote. I was just trying to get him to recognize a difference between a "migrant worker" and an "illegal alien".

Citizen only, I fully agree. I just wasn't going to give him yet another avenue to digress.

[JPC sr]

Originally Posted by MMDad

Why do you think that non-citizens should be allowed to vote?

Voting is, and should be, a right reserved for citizens. Period.

My point is that if a person has a legal State issued drivers license or ID card thereby legal to get a job, then I see no other status as justifying the person(s) from voting.

That is close enough to citizenship for voting purposes and the principles of democracy means "the people" vote and not just the elitist people voting.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

None of this reflects what I said.
Above is incoherant and confused with no real way for me to reply. I am still trying to answer, and still open to legitimate questions though.

Okay, you're still trying to answer. So, let's go through and see what you said, and you help me understand Cusick-ese:

Originally Posted by This_person

What is your position on ...
Campaign finance reform?

Originally Posted by JPC sr

Yes, I like all of those.

Originally Posted by JPC sr

I do not see the way that most people present campaign financing as being of any real concern.
The reform I would like to see would be the the gov under the Board of Elections to give a matter-of-fact account of each candidate and make that info readily available to the general population like even at voting / polling places and that way the big money would always be outside of the official public notification.
I even much like the idea of instant voter registration in that a valid State Identification (gov Picture ID) means the right to vote on election day.

Originally Posted by JPC sr

I said to post their campaign info and their political positions and their personal info at the polling / voting places because then the voters would have a last minute of accurate info,

but not - NOT - not to put their financial info at the public voting places.
I say the financial accounting is already sufficient and putting the candidates official info at the voting places will undermine the effects of the big money over the small funds.

So, when I said that I understood this to mean that you believe the current financial accounting status is already sufficient, thus you did not see any need for actual "finance" reform, you told me I was wrong.

Please, again, since I didn't understand Cusick-ese, what FINANCE reform did you say you agreed with?

I see you want to have taxpayers provide candidate data at the polling place - fine, that's your position. What reform about financing campaigns were you saying you were for?

Do you understand what campaign finance reform is about?

[This_person]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

My point is that if a person has a legal State issued drivers license or ID card thereby legal to get a job, then I see no other status as justifying the person(s) from voting.

That is close enough to citizenship for voting purposes and the principles of democracy means "the people" vote and not just the elitist people voting.

And, off to the tangent.

See, a person should need to prove citizenship to get the state issued ID. Otherwise, a non-citizen would appear the same as a citizen.

[JPC sr]

Originally Posted by ~mellabella~

These are really good questions JPC, I'd be interested in hearing what you have to say on them.

See, I answered T_p and he degrades into the dishonorable and childish comments.

It is not that I try to ignore him or anyone else but this is a family friendly Community Forum and I am a real candidate for the US Congress and T_p is an arrogent and beligerant disgrace.

When I try to answer him (try because he does not accept my answers) then the man turns deeper into his nasty and ugly postings and it is wrong for me to feed into that stuff.

Jesus said that his kind will trample pearls under their feet, and so he does.

[MMDad (Premo)]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

My point is that if a person has a legal State issued drivers license or ID card thereby legal to get a job, then I see no other status as justifying the person(s) from voting.

That is close enough to citizenship for voting purposes and the principles of democracy means "the people" vote and not just the elitist people voting.

When I went to Japan I was there legally, had ID, and could work legally. Should I, an American citizen, have been allowed to vote in the Japanese elections?

[This_person]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

See, I answered T_p and he degrades into the dishonorable and childish comments.

Of which comment in this thread are you speaking. Perhaps, like you were with me above, I was unclear and can help you understand.

It is not that I try to ignore him or anyone else but this is a family friendly Community Forum and I am a real candidate for the US Congress and T_p is an arrogent and beligerant disgrace.

Now, why would you go and lie like that. "Real candidate"? Come on, Jimmy, we all know better. Even you know better.

When I try to answer him (try because he does not accept my answers) then the man turns deeper into his nasty and ugly postings and it is wrong for me to feed into that stuff.

Again, please provide me with what you consider nasty or ugly. I'd be happy to explain any problems you have understanding me to you.

Jesus said that his kind will trample pearls under their feet, and so he does.

I've read your views on Jesus and the Bible. I especially remember where you said whole books of the Bible are completely false. I'll take my chances with your Jesus anyday. I fought fictional characters before.

For clarity, I'm not saying Jesus is fictional - just YOUR Jesus.

[JPC sr]

Originally Posted by MMDad

When I went to Japan I was there legally, had ID, and could work legally. Should I, an American citizen, have been allowed to vote in the Japanese elections?

That same formula does not fit correctly with Japan since it is still much under American occupation after the war and so an American citizen having ID documentations is not necessarily a welcome guest but one of the occupiers.

So I do not know the law in Japan but I would hope that only the Japanese are legally allowed to vote there.

The same is true in Afghanistan and Iraq or other Countries where the USA is forcing those Countries to comply with the American demands.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

That same formula does not fit correctly with Japan since it is still much under American occupation after the war and so an American citizen having ID documentations is not necessarily a welcome guest but one of the occupiers.

So I do not know the law in Japan but I would hope that only the Japanese are legally allowed to vote there.

The same is true in Afghanistan and Iraq or other Countries where the USA is forcing those Countries to comply with the American demands.

And, here I thought Larry was kidding about that stick.

Now we're Japanese occupiers, too? OMG

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