The Child Support injustice.

[LusbyMom (Premo)]

Originally Posted by smdavis65

I gotta pay child support.

Seriously, what is so hard about paying child support? It's your responsibility as a father. Dur...

Spend a day at court when they are hearing child support cases... you will hear how hard it is for hundreds of deadbeat parents... both mothers and fathers. It's' really pathetic. You will see deadbeats who owe anywhere from a couple hundred to over a 100K. You will also see stupid women standing there with their deadbeat boyfriends/husbands. I guess they are proud to be standing by their man. I just think how stupid they are. Especially when they are pregnant.. umm hello the deadbeat doesn't support the kid or kids he already has. Do you think he will support yours?

[Tilted]

Ahhh, bitterness is an ugly old shrew. Oh yeah, she can be very tempting at first with that come hither smile and promises of immediate gratification and relief from the frustration and impotence. But, you'd best not succumb to her wiles. For, once you let her in, she'll take over. She'll suck up all the air, and suffocate everything that might have brought some real fulfillment to your life. And you want to talk about jealous? She's one jealous ass ##### - she has to be the center of your world - she won't stand for you having anything else in it, least of all, happiness.

[bcp (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Tilted

Ahhh, bitterness is an ugly old shrew. Oh yeah, she can be very tempting at first with that come hither smile and promises of immediate gratification and relief from the frustration and impotence. But, you'd best not succumb to her wiles. For, once you let her in, she'll take over. She'll suck up all the air, and suffocate everything that might have brought some real fulfillment to your life. And you want to talk about jealous? She's one jealous ass ##### - she has to be the center of your world - she won't stand for you having anything else in it, least of all, happiness.

Post of the day?

[smdavis65 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Tilted

Ahhh, bitterness is an ugly old shrew. Oh yeah, she can be very tempting at first with that come hither smile and promises of immediate gratification and relief from the frustration and impotence. But, you'd best not succumb to her wiles. For, once you let her in, she'll take over. She'll suck up all the air, and suffocate everything that might have brought some real fulfillment to your life. And you want to talk about jealous? She's one jealous ass ##### - she has to be the center of your world - she won't stand for you having anything else in it, least of all, happiness.

Are talking about bitterness, or my ex-wife?

[struggler44]

Originally Posted by Pete

Of course all of you realize JPC has mental problems and you are wasting your time. Every post in reply to his lunacy is like throwing a starving dog a treat. (No insult intended to starving dogs)

He is a self centered leech on society. He will never change his stance that he is a victim.

Kinda like my ex wife that I pay child support to.

[struggler44]

Originally Posted by smdavis65

Are talking about bitterness, or my ex-wife?

Could be bitterness or for all ex wives as when you read LM post it changes from "both mothers and fathers" to he, he, he, he the more she writes

[VoteJP]

Originally Posted by Tigerlily

JPC,
You post all of these threads about the unjustice that you have been dealt. So what if the mother of your kids just dropped them off at your place, gave them a big hug and hopped on a plane to never never land. Would you still whine an cry about your injustice then? I think you all would be the first in line to the STS bus to L-town to file for whatever you could get from Joe and jane taxpayer. Do the world a favor and shut up or get a JOB!!!

I have no objection to parents getting onto Public Assistance programs as that is their right as Maryland citizens, and I would be happy if any parent dropped of their babies with me whether it were my own child or not because I love kids.

And it is not really the custodial parents that go after the Child Support as it is the gov laws that attack the separated parents for the money.

I have nothing against the custodial parents except to point out that they live off of sinful stolen money called as Child Support.

It is okay and respectable if the custodials get Welfare and Public Assistance because that is NOT sinful or stealing as Welfare is their legal right as citizens.

[Pete (Premo)]

Originally Posted by VoteJP

I have no objection to parents getting onto Public Assistance programs as that is their right as Maryland citizens, and I would be happy if any parent dropped of their babies with me whether it were my own child or not because I love kids.

And it is not really the custodial parents that go after the Child Support as it is the gov laws that attack the separated parents for the money.

I have nothing against the custodial parents except to point out that they live off of sinful stolen money called as Child Support.

It is okay and respectable if the custodials get Welfare and Public Assistance because that is NOT sinful or stealing as Welfare is their legal right as citizens.

And being financially supported by your biological parent is not a right?

Being on welfare is sinful stealing of the public loot when the separated parent has the money or the wherewithal to make the money but refuses.

[VoteJP]

Originally Posted by LusbyMom

If they failed to pay they are guilty.

No, in reality the parents are just poor and one can not truly be guilty of any crime just based on being poor - and thereby too poor to pay the Child Support demands.

And it cost over $20,000. per year for each prisoner in jail, and for that amount we could give each of the parents a full time 40 hour week job at the minimum wage and have money left over. And if we did that then the Child Support could be deducted from the new job and income taxes paid too and each time it would be one less person in jail.

Note: I do not propose giving the parents such jobs but the irony still stands in that equation.

Instead we have Child Support laws that pillage and plunder the separated parents until the parents are dead-broke and then the law put the parents into prison for 3 or 5 years accordingly and it is an ignorant way to run a gov. And only ONLY poor parents go to jail.

Originally Posted by LusbyMom

You can explain anything you want, you are offered a public defender or you can get a lawyer. You can explain to the judge if you are crippled or have been in the hospital etc... You can also file for a modification

Sure a parent can do that after they plead "GUILTY" to not paying the Child Support, which means the parents are guilty first and then the parents must try to prove their true innocence AFTER pleading guilty.

It is unAmerican and maybe some day it will be declared as unConstitutional as other challenges, link one HERE.

Originally Posted by LusbyMom

I'ts not about taking the deadbeats money. It's about SUPPORTING THE CHILD... hence the words CHILD SUPPORT

But that is just not real, and I know many people believe it is true that Child Support is to support the children but it is NOT.

Child Support is about "enforcing their right to support from both of their parents" which only means "Parenting Police". It talks hypocritically about "children" but it is only about controlling the parents.

Originally Posted by LusbyMom

Boohoo you gotta sell your possessions? SO WHAT. You created a child you take care of the child. No matter what it takes you should make sure your kid is taken care of. Their is no excuse for a parent to be a deadbeat. The custodial parent has no option to support their kid do they? Someone has to house, feed, clothe the child.

The children all have everything they need and if any child lacks anything needed then it is ONLY because of the neglect or abuse by the custodial and NOT because of Child Support being paid or not paid.

And the custodial does have plenty of easy options to get anything the child(ren) needs to overflowing without getting any Child Support at all.

And the truest proof of all is that the poorest of poor families on Welfare have their Child Support payments confiscated by the State gov and that c/s payment is put into the State treasury - why? because the poorest of children already have everything they need to overflowing.

Originally Posted by LusbyMom

What is a sad story is a pathetic loser deadbeat parent who choses not to support the children they created. Sorry but their are jobs out there.. You can flip burgers or wrap tacos.. whatever it takes.

No parent really choses to not support their own children as that is just slander and not true.

But it is right and proper for any parent to chose not to pay a thief even when the thief is a gov Child Support collection.

Originally Posted by LusbyMom

You gotta pay child support

There is a better option now, in that voting JP as Governor and then say "bye-bye" to the thieving Child Support system.

There are always options and better choices when one investigates.

[VoteJP]

Originally Posted by daisycreek

Sorry to burst your bubble there JP... but all the above is false.

It is a question of contempt of court- did the non-custodial parent have the ability or means to pay the support and fail to pay? in which case they are in contempt of their court order.

you really should stop spewing out all this false information, you have no clue what policy is involved in child support in the year 2009.

Do some research and see what is really going on.....

If a parent can't pay because they have no job they are sent to A jobs program.... where for FREE,
they get help preparing a resume,
help learning computer skills,
help getting bonded- if they have employment barriers, help with getting a GED
help with job searches
bus passes to get to these classes
help if they are not working because they can't afford a RX
use of the internet
Help learning how to interview for a job

No, you are talking about things before the parents go to Court and I am referring to when the parents are going to Court and facing 3 years State prison or 5 years Federal prison for failure to pay the Child support demands.

And I do know about the "contempt of their court order" which is handled by the Court-Masters and not by a real Judge, and I know about trying to push the parents into any kind of jobs, and if the parents had a job or any assets that the Child Support collection could steal then the parent will not go to jail because stealing the c/s money means the c/s has been paid.

Putting the parents into jail only happens when the parents have no more money to give or to be stolen.

Only ONLY only the parents that are dead-broke will go to jail.