The Child Support injustice.

[VoteJP]

Originally Posted by libertytyranny

Though it is VERY clear to me that this JP person is off his freakin rocker..I have always had strong feeling about child support...I think that it is set up all wrong. ALLLLL too often it is used as punishment, not as real support. It is a punishment because the marriage or relationship or whatever didnt work out like someone wanted it to....my uncle has to pay out the ass to his ex..and she wont let him see the kids! is that fair? he wants to see them...and be involved but her crazy ass wont let him..so he takes her to court..to see them..and she starts making up riduculous things..all dismissed..but guess what? he still cant see them..thats just one example of many men I know that pay child support..it is punishment..guy gets a raise at work...and boom ex finds out about it..look whos goin to court again? and I know many women who dont use it for their children at all...they use it to make their lifestyles better. Now im SURE there are couples out there who work it out well and use it as intended..ive seen that too..

that being said..i cant really think of a way it can be changed to avoid "punishment" so it kinda has to be the way it is...just make sure who you breed with is a decent human..i guess

Off my rocker is okay because I am also a legally registered Democratic candidate for the Office of Maryland Governor.

So what I find is the same as you do that Child Support is ONLY about "punishing" the parents and it is NOT about supporting children at all.

And you see the ignorance of it in your Uncle's case but I find it to be ignorant and destructive in every family that Child Support is connected to.

Your conclusion that it needs to be accepted and it can not be changed is just a defeatist mentality of surrender and servitude to injustice without a fight, and I say no to that.

We can do some thing and we can break the dirty thieves and it has already begun to break down.

[VoteJP]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

I do know that it's futile to argue with you, so I won't bother.

The reason for that is because I am completely and absolutely correct on this subject and any argument contrary will always be futile.

This is a not a competition of who can beat the other because it is simply a moral question of right from wrong.

Stealing is wrong, receiving stolen money is wrong, and children do not need the Child Support is true.

I am on the high ground and that is why all fail that argue against my platform.

[kwillia]

Originally Posted by VoteJP

The reason for that is because I am completely and absolutely correct on this subject and any argument contrary will always be futile.

This is a not a competition of who can beat the other because it is simply a moral question of right from wrong.

Stealing is wrong, receiving stolen money is wrong, and children do not need the Child Support is true.

I am on the high ground and that is why all fail that argue against my platform.

Wrong.

[TurboK9]

Originally Posted by VoteJP

I have no objection to parents getting onto Public Assistance programs as that is their right as Maryland citizens, and I would be happy if any parent dropped of their babies with me whether it were my own child or not because I love kids.

And it is not really the custodial parents that go after the Child Support as it is the gov laws that attack the separated parents for the money.

I have nothing against the custodial parents except to point out that they live off of sinful stolen money called as Child Support.

It is okay and respectable if the custodials get Welfare and Public Assistance because that is NOT sinful or stealing as Welfare is their legal right as citizens.

Wait? What? A "right" to public assistance? Since when? PA is not a "right". Am I reading this right? It's a "right" for the mother of a child with a deadbeat dad to recieve taxpayer funds in the form of public assistance, but when the state goes after the biological father for those funds, it's "sunful stolen money"?

So... I and every other taxpayer gets to pay for your spawn, and that's OK by you, as long as you aren't expected to pay for the poor little bastard's needs yourself?

I think the best way to 'fix' child support law would be to neuter / spay all the deadbeat dads and moms out there, and call it done. Once a non-custodial parent goes beyond 180 days delinquent and fiscal ability to pay is shown as according to gross pay - basic living expenses, 'snip'. Done deal. Debt forgiven, and no more bouncy bouncy. I'm not tlking about a simple vasectomy or ligitation, I'm talking hedge clippers / ice cream scoop.

If I have to pay for YOUR kid, then you shouldn't able to have more.

[xusnret]

Here is a reenactment of when the X-Mrs Cusick through Bobby out.

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[VoteJP]

Originally Posted by TurboK9

Wait? What? A "right" to public assistance? Since when? PA is not a "right".

Yes Public Assistance is a "right" for any citizen that qualifies.

And a "right" only means that the person can only be denied if they are unqualified by the given rules.

And the US Constitution says that the gov is to "promote the general welfare" of the population.

Originally Posted by TurboK9

Am I reading this right? It's a "right" for the mother of a child with a deadbeat dad to receive taxpayer funds in the form of public assistance, but when the state goes after the biological father for those funds, it's "sinful stolen money"?

There really are no "deadbeat" Dads and a mother that qualifies for Public Assistance is thereby entitled to it, thank God.

And neither the State nor anyone else has any right to steal money from the separated parents (Dads or Moms) as that is "stealing" as in "Thou shalt not steal" and so yes that is sinful to do, and it is then sinful money.

Originally Posted by TurboK9

So... I and every other taxpayer gets to pay for your spawn, and that's OK by you, as long as you aren't expected to pay for the poor little bastard's needs yourself?

You might view children as "bastards" and as "spawn" but it is wrong to put such an ignorant view into our laws or into our social consciousness.

We have Public Assistance programs for citizens in need and rightly so.

Originally Posted by TurboK9

I think the best way to 'fix' child support law would be to neuter / spay all the deadbeat dads and moms out there, and call it done. Once a non-custodial parent goes beyond 180 days delinquent and fiscal ability to pay is shown as according to gross pay - basic living expenses, 'snip'. Done deal. Debt forgiven, and no more bouncy bouncy. I'm not talking about a simple vasectomy or ligation, I'm talking hedge clippers / ice cream scoop.

It is barbaric and inhuman to base parenting and childbirth on the person's money levels, and basing children on money is a sick mentality.

Originally Posted by TurboK9

If I have to pay for YOUR kid, then you shouldn't able to have more.

You are not really paying for kids on Public Assistance, and I myself would be happy to take full care of yours or anyone's kids because I see kids as a blessing.

[bcp (Premo)]

Originally Posted by VoteJP

"promote the general welfare" of the population.

I dont think you actually understand what the meaning of welfare was when it was used in the constitution.
Do you think that by any slim chance, the system created to steal from one and give to the lazy was by any chance at all, called welfare to fool the idiots that didnt understand the original wordage in the constitution?

You are not really paying for kids on Public Assistance, and I myself would be happy to take full care of yours or anyone's kids because I see kids as a blessing.

and yet, you were totally unwilling to support your own child. How strange does that sound to you?
sounds pretty damn ignorant if you ask me.

hell, you even left the state so you didnt even contribute in the way of taxes during that period.

your claim that you would be happy to take full care of anyone other than yourself (and you dont even do that) falls short on merit.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by VoteJP

The reason for that is because I am completely and absolutely correct on this subject and any argument contrary will always be futile.

This is a not a competition of who can beat the other because it is simply a moral question of right from wrong.

Stealing is wrong, receiving stolen money is wrong, and children do not need the Child Support is true.

I am on the high ground and that is why all fail that argue against my platform.

Whatever you say...

[struggler44]

Thought everyone was going to stop entertaining him......reminds me of my ex, always has to get the last word in and will hound you into agreeing with him.

[struggler44]

Oh, I pay my CS every month