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Old 10-10-2002, 12:55 PM   #31 (permalink)
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A person with the ability of Rocky, that seems to be the best for the job, won’t run because it might split the vote. Totally unreal and what I would say is somewhat self-serving. Maybe I should rethink my support for Rocky as someone with the right attributes to help this county and succumb to the fact that no one really cares about what happens to the people or the county



Ken, you have tried and convicted Rocky and you don't have any idea what he is thinking. I agree with everyone on here, I doubt that he would ever do a write-in. He gave it his best shot and lost. I admire him for running, he did his best. I guess it is our loss that his parents aren't Mr. & Mrs. McKay. I just hope he stays active in the community (and I believe he will) and gives it another shot in 4 years. I just hope we survive the next 4 years...scary thought huh
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Old 10-10-2002, 01:26 PM   #32 (permalink)
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So, rethinking support equates to pissed off for you? Interesting. Wrong but definately interesting. I would think that a person that knows they are the right one for the job wouldn't let the process stop them from achieving it or that what they said during their campaign was nothing but hogwash.

Will you be happy if McKay wins? I know I won't. I also know that I have had enough of the Randall regime and want positive changes in this county not just more of the same old crap. I thought Rocky could do it and still do. That is why I would like to see him declare and get back into it.

I wasn't going to jump into this but, oh well....The one thing that I will guarantee you Ken King is that there was noone in this Primary who believed in what he was doing more than Rocky Rowland. To imply that there was even a remote chance that what he was saying was hogwash is ludicrous.

The Republican Party in St. Mary's county has a long memory. If Rocky made the attempt at a write-in campaign and lost and because of that (splitting the vote) the Democrats and Julie won what do you think Rocky's chances at another run in four years.

Self Serving?? Possibly!!

Self Preservation?? Much More Likely!!
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Old 10-10-2002, 01:49 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Ken, you have tried and convicted Rocky and you don't have any idea what he is thinking. I agree with everyone on here, I doubt that he would ever do a write-in. He gave it his best shot and lost. I admire him for running, he did his best. I guess it is our loss that his parents aren't Mr. & Mrs. McKay. I just hope he stays active in the community (and I believe he will) and gives it another shot in 4 years. I just hope we survive the next 4 years...scary thought huh

Have I now, well if he thought that he was the better of the candidates (which I certainly do), was what this county needed, and another person won (on the family name only, in my opinion) for his party, why would he concede if there was another avenue?

I haven't heard that Rocky is now endorsing McKay (maybe he has, I just haven't heard it). With the paultry turnout at the primary I think he still has a good chance at winning. How is that being tried and convicted?

You're right I don't know what he is thinking, but his action says since you didn't pick me you deserve McKay or Randall.
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Old 10-10-2002, 01:51 PM   #34 (permalink)
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[quote]I wasn't going to jump into this but, oh well....The one thing that I will guarantee you Ken King is that there was noone in this Primary who believed in what he was doing more than Rocky Rowland. To imply that there was even a remote chance that what he was saying was hogwash is ludicrous. [/QUOTE

Delilah.... you go girl, couldnt have said it better myself!!
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Old 10-10-2002, 02:00 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I'll agree you are pulling it. What doesn't make sense is that there are quite a few undeclared and independents that could vote for Rocky that aren't considered in your summation. In the 1998 Gubernatorial Election St. Mary’s County had 22.094 votes cast. In this primary election there were only 13,204 votes cast based on your numbers. This leaves a difference of 8,890 votes that are available plus any new voters that have moved into the area. The potential exists for a write-in candidate to win and win big. All they need to do is get out there and make their case. The wirte-in candidate would have another advantage in my mind, that being the stir it would cause in the local news and the short term memory of most folk. They could be popular overnight and could "steal" the election. A person has 19 days to make this decision and declare.
Okay, obviously my original source of information was not correct. After researching more, I'll give you that I did not include undeclared and independents in my numbers.

But, I would totally disagree with your statement that "The wirte-in candidate would have another advantage in my mind, that being the stir it would cause in the local news and the short term memory of most folk. " There is a write in candidate in one of the Commissioner races, but the Enterprise made no mention of it yesterday. And another thing, I believe a candidate needs the support of a political party in order to run. The republican party has a candidate already, like it or not. And trust me, I don't like it either.

No I will not be happy if McKay wins. But I will be even more unhappy if Julie does. That is why I don't think Rocky should do a write in.. it will guarantee a win for Julie.
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Old 10-10-2002, 06:10 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Okay, obviously my original source of information was not correct. After researching more, I'll give you that I did not include undeclared and independents in my numbers.

But, I would totally disagree with your statement that "The wirte-in candidate would have another advantage in my mind, that being the stir it would cause in the local news and the short term memory of most folk. " There is a write in candidate in one of the Commissioner races, but the Enterprise made no mention of it yesterday. And another thing, I believe a candidate needs the support of a political party in order to run. The republican party has a candidate already, like it or not. And trust me, I don't like it either.

No I will not be happy if McKay wins. But I will be even more unhappy if Julie does. That is why I don't think Rocky should do a write in.. it will guarantee a win for Julie.
Reading Maryland election guidelines, located at http://www.elections.state.md.us/cam...e/sg_02.html#3 there is nothing required for party affiliation for a person to file as a write-in candidate.

As to whether or not a candidate attempting this would be successful or cause another candidate to lose because of splitting the vote I am unsure if that would happen or not. I feel that Rocky would have been the best to go up against Ms. Randall. Especially when this area has almost as many undeclared as it does declared voters. It could certainly be interesting.

As to my assertion about an advantage of a write-in candidate, I still feel that way, especially in a local race such as this. It would all be a matter of timing and how well received the candidate is (which I think Rocky would be well received). The fact that the Emptyprize didn’t recognize a write-in candidate that you are aware of in their latest edition is of no surprise to me (BTW who is it and what district does it impact?). They have their agenda and will support their candidates without giving any print space to opponents. They have done this for years and probably sway many voters that don’t seek information on the candidates.

I really think it sucks that such a small portion of the county has been able to determine our choices for the commissioners. But such is life and I too will vote McKay if there is no other choice. All I have been trying to do is show that there is another avenue to get a decent person into office. If Rocky chooses to use it I will certainly give him my support and try to convince every voter I come upon to do the same. It isn’t about McKay or Randall winning or losing, it is about getting the best person into the position.
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Old 10-10-2002, 08:23 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Hubscher (sp?) said last week he was going to do a write in campaign.

As I have said before, I don't think Rocky could win a write in race, especially this late in the game. One thing that I have not mentioned before is he would be asking THOUSANDS of citizens to actually write "Rocky Rowland" on the ballot. That's alot of people.

Another thing that I am concerned about (and I think Delilah hit on this earlier) is if Rocky runs a write in campaign he will be labeled a "sore loser". If he wants to run again in 4 years, I would hate to see that label attached. "Oh, that's Rocky - the one that would not take NO for an answer and caused Julie to be our current County Commissioner President."
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Old 10-13-2002, 11:51 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I have had my doubts as to who I was going to vote for, for County Comm. President, until tonight. I listened to both Julie Randall and Tommy Mckay talk at the political forum in Ridge, and to tell you the truth... I thought Julie Randall made a better showing. Tommy Mckay came in late after his lovely $50 a ticket party his dad was having for him and starts talking about buildings in this county need more square feet rather than cubic feet, that the tec center is basically ridiculously too big, and here's the kicker, starts talking about we need to bring back the farmers, and that St mary's county should be known for something like Idaho for the potato and Georgia for their peaches. Ok, I have grown up with farming in my family, and to tell you the truth, there is not very many doing it anymore. If Mckay wants to run on that platform, he should have ran for office like 10 yrs ago... because we are too busy building up all that we can. Basically there are two main farming families in this county anymore, so I don't know how he expects to do this.
Overall, Mckay did not come across as someone that I would want running this county. Its just a scary thought.
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Old 10-14-2002, 12:20 AM   #39 (permalink)
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St. Mary's IS known for something - stuffed ham. Where ya been, Tommy?

McKay's out of touch, Randall is a spendthrift - ya'll have fun on election day.
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Old 10-14-2002, 07:46 AM   #40 (permalink)
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St. Mary's IS known for something - stuffed ham. Where ya been, Tommy?

@ vrail. You are right vrai, just about anyone who has heard of St. Mary's Co. has heard of stuffed ham. When I travel and someone asks where I am from; I usually say Pax River, because people usually recognize that. Many have replied "ohhhhhhh stuffed ham right?" or something to that effect. I always get a kick out of that. Another thing, McKay's Grocery Stores makes a killing off selling stuffed ham at holiday time. I guess Tommyboy just doesn't get it, maybe he would rather St. Mary's to be known for something like....embezzlement.
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