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Old 08-13-2004, 12:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
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There is a faction of the Democratic party that thinks it's funny to make jokes about killing the President and have no problem invading Karl Rove's personal residence to make themselves heard. They have absolutely no respect whatsoever. I think it's entirely reasonable for the RNC to take precautions against having these sorts at their rallies.
There is undoubtedly a faction of the GOP that is like this for John Kerry as well.
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Rraley,

Consider the word "rally", doesn't it mean to come together for a common cause or purpose? That in itself would indicate that they want like minded folk there and not those in opposition to their goal or plan.
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Old 08-13-2004, 12:26 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Rraley,

Consider the word "rally", doesn't it mean to come together for a common cause or purpose? That in itself would indicate that they want like minded folk there and not those in opposition to their goal or plan.
Yes that is true, the actual meaning suggests that, but I more consider them "campaign events" than rallies.
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Old 08-13-2004, 12:30 PM   #14 (permalink)
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There is undoubtedly a faction of the GOP that is like this for John Kerry as well.
Then they're obviously a lot quieter about it than their Democrat counterparts.

You strike me as a reasonable person. Take a trip over to the DU and see the kind of wackjobs that are out there. If it were your candidate, would you want to risk having these guys show up at your rally, in any kind of close proximity to your guy?

But again, if the DNC wanted to close their rallies, I wouldn't think it was sinister or suspicious. I'd think it made perfect sense.
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Old 08-13-2004, 12:38 PM   #15 (permalink)
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You strike me as a reasonable person. Take a trip over to the DU and see the kind of wackjobs that are out there. If it were your candidate, would you want to risk having these guys show up at your rally, in any kind of close proximity to your guy?
There are major wackjobs there (and many of them I would consider greens or socialists, not Democrats). There are many conservative wackjobs on other forums such as the Free Republic.
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There are many conservative wackjobs on other forums such as the Free Republic.
I don't go on FR so I'll have to take your word for it. But if there are people on there calling for the death of John Kerry and plotting how to infiltrate the conventions and such to cause problems, don't you think the DNC should think about taking precautions against these people?

Some guy over at the DU wanted to take a tear gas bomb to the RepConv and set it off during Bush's acceptance speech. Another guy responded that they should get jobs with food service and spike the refreshments with LSD. Both of those ideas are moronic, but I'll suggest anyone who attacks a public official isn't firing on all cylinders anyway.

It so happens that the RepConv coincides with freshman week at NYU, so we'll be there for several days. If the RNC wanted to close off all of Manhattan to non-Bush supporters during that week, that would be just fine with me.
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I don't visit either regularly but from what little I've read it's running about 40-1. Maybe a little higher.

For every one nut-job at FR saying things like you describe there are about 40+ at the DU.
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I know I'm a little late here... but I tried to attend two different speeches that Kerry gave down here in Florida, and I was barred from entering either one once I told the folks checking IDs and giving passes that I am a Republican.

I don't know who told rraley that not Dems can get it, but that's not the case down here.
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True enough. But, why spend lots of $$$$ to go to all of these cities to preach to the choir? I would rather spend my time trying to convert the undecided than just spend my time talking to people who are already going to vote for me.
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Couple of points...

...to Double RR...unless two candidates appear in public together and ask each other questions and respond to one another, then it is a photo op and it is up to the campaign handlers as to what they are trying to project.

I would offer that libs are far more effective at demonstrations and disruptions. Conservatives are to busy at work.

To Bruz, they're not preaching to the choir per se though they are trying to pump up the base. They are trying to sway the un-decideds.
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