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Old 10-14-2002, 02:52 PM   #31 (permalink)
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"The incumbents have fired back in various newspaper articles and garnered support in high places. U.S. Rep. Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md.), who is backing the incumbents, last week called the Republican slate "a nightmare.""

Oh please, Steny! This from the man who bucked his constituents to vote "No" to all 4 articles of impeachment against Clinton. The Republican slate is no more of a "nightmare" than the Democratic one.
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Old 10-14-2002, 09:19 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: "FOUR OUT OF FIVE"

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I agree with you 100%. It would seem that all anybody on this issue wants is an answer to the question.

Larry Jarboe, Joe Gass, Kenny Dement and Vernon Gray will definitely make excellent Commissioners. They will do everything in their power to make sure that the citizens of St. Mary's have a voice.
To acknowledge a rumor will give it a certain degree of credibility, and Tom McKay is too smart to do that. So, I'm 99.999% sure that there is not an answer forthcoming. That said, it doesn't matter. He's still a better choice, for reasons various people have illustrated here. Oliver Stone, call your office.

If answering the question is so very important, then where were the 4 guys you mentioned above, at the Forum last Thursday? Their empty chairs sure couldn't answer the questions at Ryken last week.

Kenny Dement gets a pass as his strategy has never been to go head-to-head with Anderson in a public forum. Dement is nobody's dummy, and will get along with whoever the other 4 commissioners are. This gives him an edge over Anderson and enough reason to vote for Dement in the General.

Larry Jarboe panders his small business background, but won't meet his "peers" in public? If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen! Finally a reason to vote for Marcel Brooks other than the fact that he is a nice upstanding guy.

Joe Gass could have taken some strides by attending. He represents himself well in a public forum, but failed to support a portion of the community that probably would support him. Very disappointing.

Vernon Gray said he wouldn't attend a forum before the primary election, but if he made it through, he would attend them all leading up to the General. Promise broken - bye-bye vote. Not to be missed though. Dan Raley is the better choice anyway.

One more thing here - The candidates have determined that there are NO party lines in this election. That's right. We're looking at 9 Democrats and 1 Republican. So, don't put your faith in your party if you need a "default" candidate. Put your vote on the best individual in each race. Julie was a Republican. All 5 Republicans were Democrats. Party lines mean nothing this year.

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Old 10-18-2002, 09:15 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Republicans Back out of Forum

In reading the paper the other day, it stated that the forum at Ryken was basically a Democrat backed, stacked forum. I think our republicans did right by not attending, it showed the stacked deck that they stood alone and their plan was foiled. What that showed me is that the DEMS are scared and that is a good thing. It is amazing how all of a sudden they are squirming to make things right...Sorry folks...4 years is enough. Bye bye to those in office.
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Old 10-18-2002, 01:29 PM   #34 (permalink)
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In reading the paper the other day, it stated that the forum at Ryken was basically a Democrat backed, stacked forum. I think our republicans did right by not attending, it showed the stacked deck that they stood alone and their plan was foiled. What that showed me is that the DEMS are scared and that is a good thing. It is amazing how all of a sudden they are squirming to make things right...Sorry folks...4 years is enough. Bye bye to those in office.
A stacked deck is just silly. You're reading too much Rossignol.

Small businesspeople are typically your most conservative, politically and probably the majority vote Republican. The 4 who didn't show up, don't have an argument against the Democrats. ALL of these guys are DEMOCRATS! They are Republicans -only- to run for office. Their party affiliation at has no bearing on anything other than to discredit their argument that they are being picked on by organizations and Democrats.

If these guys won't answer questions BEFORE the elections, what answers are we going to get IF they are elected?

You don't RSVP, and then back out the day before. They made a mistake. I was about to vote for 3 of the 4 who didn't show up. They harmed themselves, and displayed their true colors, thankfully, before the election.
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Old 10-18-2002, 01:44 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I disagree with you. These folks may have been democrats at one time just as those who were democrats may have been republican at one time as well. At this point it doesn't matter now does it there are a bunch of people viing for positions that are going to affect us for the next four years out of all of them. I am confident that those running for County Commissioner will be majority of republicans. But again at this point it is the caliber of each person that we should be voting on not for the party line.

I do read The rag I will admit that. I read this article and was suprised by it I also had the opportunity to talk to Jarboe about the issue. It does not make these gentlemen look bad. They did this for the most part together they made a decision together...and they stood by it. If I were in the same situation I would have done the same thing. The republicans had no imput on how the forum would go. I do not thing that is fare. Now for you, if you are a democrat, I can see where you wouldn't feel this way. and if you vote the same bunch of loosers back in then you are the one who will be complaining for the next 4 years.
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Old 10-18-2002, 03:16 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Nodnarb... Funny how you fail to hold anything against the Democrats for their unified failure to appear at the Board of Realtors Forum... Hmmm, could you be reading to much of the Enterprise?
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Old 10-18-2002, 06:42 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Nodnarb... Funny how you fail to hold anything against the Democrats for their unified failure to appear at the Board of Realtors Forum... Hmmm, could you be reading to much of the Enterprise?
I wasn't aware of that. Did they respond affirmatively, and then back out the day before like the 4 Republicans? Did they proceed to slam the Board of Realtors? If they backed out on their word at the last minute, and then abused the Board of Realtors, then YES they are no better.

As for my party affiliation, I am indeed registered as a Democrat. But, if you looked at my voting record, I'd qualify as more of a Reagan Democrat. I don't vote the party line. Before this, I would have voted 4 Republicans, but now I'm down to McKay and Mr. Softball.
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Old 10-18-2002, 07:31 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I wasn't aware of that. Did they respond affirmatively, and then back out the day before like the 4 Republicans? Did they proceed to slam the Board of Realtors? If they backed out on their word at the last minute, and then abused the Board of Realtors, then YES they are no better.

I would have voted 4 Republicans, but now I'm down to McKay and Mr. Softball.
Now here's where you get me! Honestly I can't speak on behalf of all the candidates but I know for certain that at least two of them declined immediately. To my understanding it was noted up front that the Republican candidates did not want to further enhance the enviroment of hate and discontent.

The decline wasn't based on a fear of the questions...These same candidates all attended the Leauge of Women voters forums and others where the audience posed questions that were answered.

The decline was simply based on the simple fact that the Democrats had launched a campaign in the Letters to the Editor to dishonestly slam and discredit their oponents.

I'll mention: The letter from Mary Ann Chasen that virtually ripped the guts out of Joe Gass for his attempts to install Library Smart Cards. She went as far to call his attempts unconstitutional.
Here's the kicker! This was not the ruling and guess what..... The Lexington Park Library is now installing these Smart cards based on meetings with Joe Gass.

Mary Ann Chasen is on the Library Board. She knew full well the intentions of the Lexington Park Library and others, when she wrote her don't vote for Joe Letter. This appeared to be a major move by the Democrats to injure an innocent and turn the tide.

The Republicans wanted no part of it and Declined. It's your vote and you are a smart guy.

The Democrats did not show at the Realtors Forum. My understanding is that they gave no notice and everyone sat around for 20 minutes waiting.

You can't rely on the press. Everyone LOVES Mr. Softball including me... How come you aren't pulling your vote for him? He declined the offer also?
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The decline wasn't based on a fear of the questions...These same candidates all attended the Leauge of Women voters forums and others where the audience posed questions that were answered.

The decline was simply based on the simple fact that the Democrats had launched a campaign in the Letters to the Editor to dishonestly slam and discredit their oponents.

I'll mention: The letter from Mary Ann Chasen
The 4 Republicans attended the LoWV Forum in Leonardtown this past Wednesday?

And, let me get this straight? They backed out of the forums at the last minute because Mary Ann Chasen wrote a letter? You can type that and still vote for these guys? LOOK at what you wrote. A sweet little old lady has intimidated these 4 Republican kittens so much that they won't go out to a public forum?

Should they get elected, what happens when the citizens start throwing arrows and daggers at these guys for decisions they take while in office? They'll have far worse scrutiny that Mary Ann Chasen can dish out. That said, I hope they don't have to deal with that. They can't handle it, and that is already proven.

As for Mr Softball, he wouldn't go to a forum. As you said, he did decline. Too much class to accept and then back out the day before. Forums were never a part of his campaigning, and he makes no bones about that. He can get along with anyone, and that will serve him well should he be elected. That makes him the complete opposite of his opponent, and a good choice.
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Old 10-18-2002, 11:26 PM   #40 (permalink)
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The 4 Republicans attended the LoWV Forum in Leonardtown this past Wednesday?

And, let me get this straight? They backed out of the forums at the last minute because Mary Ann Chasen wrote a letter? You can type that and still vote for these guys? LOOK at what you wrote. A sweet little old lady has intimidated these 4 Republican kittens so much that they won't go out to a public forum?

Should they get elected, what happens when the citizens start throwing arrows and daggers at these guys for decisions they take while in office? They'll have far worse scrutiny that Mary Ann Chasen can dish out. That said, I hope they don't have to deal with that. They can't handle it, and that is already proven.

As for Mr Softball, he wouldn't go to a forum. As you said, he did decline. Too much class to accept and then back out the day before. Forums were never a part of his campaigning, and he makes no bones about that. He can get along with anyone, and that will serve him well should he be elected. That makes him the complete opposite of his opponent, and a good choice.
Well Nodnarb... You must consider the source. I am just a lowly on-looker. Mary Ann is hardly a little old lady and her letter was one of many that flooded the Enterprise. In the interest of saving space, I cited her BS because personally I found her to be the most outrageous.

I can promise you that while her letter certainly brought certain issues to light It was not fear that held the Republicans back... It was class.

Your "facts" are loosely based. Kenny Dement attended every single forum before the Primary and also attended the Oct 17 forum held after the Chamber of Commerce Forum.

The Republicans have attended the LOWV forums before the primary and after.

Your vote is your business... I think we both know why you haven't omitted Kenny from your short list of Republicans. Could it be that your privy to just a little more inside info than you let on?
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