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Old 07-07-2006, 03:02 PM   #151 (permalink)
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These percentages, How would you derive them? Based on what you think is fair to the parent, or what based on what ensures the child will be provided for fairly by both parents?

Because in ALL cases - ALL CASES - provisions for the child trumps the parents desire to keep their money.
That conclution is a big reason why the system is unjust and oppressive and now we have millions of parents going in and out of jails throughout the USA. Provision for the child need to be at least middle class and the fact that the parents are lower working class makes the demands unreasonable and most parents in Maryland and all through the entire USA - the vast majority of separated parents do not pay the unjust child support and I am explaining why that is.
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But the non-custodial parent behind whom I will stand is one who pays his child-support. All of it.
The law enforcement stands behind them all with threats of violence if the parents do not pay up, thus ALL OF THE child support is stolen money.
 
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Old 07-07-2006, 03:10 PM   #152 (permalink)
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The law enforcement stands behind them all with threats of violence if the parents do not pay up, thus ALL OF THE child support is stolen money.
JPC, you are supposed to pay your child support WITHOUT law enforcement even coming into play.

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I am here dealing with Godless posters here so they do not understand the morality issues.
THAT is rich!

You never answered - what does JPC Jr. think about all this?
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Old 07-07-2006, 03:20 PM   #153 (permalink)
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Then they must have changed it since my ex and I set a child support amount.

There is a formula they go by, based on the income of both parents. There is no "set amount" that everyone is required to pay regardless of their income, to my knowledge.
The set amount that I mean is like saying that a parent must pay $300. per month, or $500. or $75. per week as in every payment has a set fix amount. Having percentages as the law originally required means that the parent is ordered to pay 10% or up to 25% of their take home pay. So if one made $10. per hour and 40 hour week then they pay $75. child support which is 25% of take home pay, but if the parent works overtime then they would pay 25% of the pay including the overtime, and if the parent got sick or fired from the job then the parent made nothing then 25% of nothing would be nothing. They made nothing then they pay nothing and if they make more then they pay more with percentages. But a set fixed amount says that if the parent is sick or fired then they still owe the full fixed set amount when they have nothing to pay. If the parent is poor then the child is poor and if rich then rich and child support needs to reflect that reality.
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If you are the only person in the state of Maryland who is "right" on this issue, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for all the wrong people who make laws (and those of us who support said wrong laws) to change them anytime soon.
I agree with that and I am not waiting for the heathen to rise. This is why I am a registered candidate for office and win or lose the election then right is right and right just keeps going on.
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Don't you find it even the slightest bit curious that YOU are the only one who is "right" about this issue?
No there are many others. It is just that I have the privledge of leading the issue to new levels. This is only a matter of time before it breaks. The child support injustice is like a house built on sand that those that work to keep it up must work extra hard because all I have to do is shake it to start the fall, IMO.
 
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Old 07-07-2006, 03:21 PM   #154 (permalink)
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most parents in Maryland and all through the entire USA - the vast majority of separated parents do not pay the unjust child support and I am explaining why that is.
Don't you hate it when the truth proves you wrong:

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There were a total of 10.6 million cases with arrears due in FY 2002. About 6.3 million was paid towards arrears, leaving 4.3 million cases unpaid.
And these are only those cases where the system had to get involved. The truth is that the vast majority of parents in this country take care of their children. You, your son, and the other 4.3 million deadbeats are the exception, not the rule.
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Old 07-07-2006, 03:22 PM   #155 (permalink)
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You never answered - what does JPC Jr. think about all this?
JPC Jr. had a paternity hearing recently. That is step one in support enforcement. Looks like that apple didn't fall far, doesn't it?
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Old 07-07-2006, 03:30 PM   #156 (permalink)
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JPC, you are supposed to pay your child support WITHOUT law enforcement even coming into play.
That is true when laws have justice in the law, but child support is unjust so the gov must keep using more and more force and still it fails even today as the vast majority of Court ordered child support goes unpaid, and rightly so. To get the child support injustice to work it will take a HELL of a lot more force because injustice does not work, never.
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THAT is rich!

You never answered - what does JPC Jr. think about all this?
People are alway trying to misuse a parent's children against them and I know it is true with me too, but I do not speak for my son as he is 29 years old and all I feel I can say is that I believe he has handled things greatly and I am very proud of him. BUT my politics and my position on child support is my own position alone and it is not subject to anybody else unless they can show me they are correct.
 
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Old 07-07-2006, 03:33 PM   #157 (permalink)
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Don't you hate it when the truth proves you wrong:



And these are only those cases where the system had to get involved. The truth is that the vast majority of parents in this country take care of their children. You, your son, and the other 4.3 million deadbeats are the exception, not the rule.
He is comparing the number of cases to the number of dollars and note that he has no link.
 
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Old 07-07-2006, 03:38 PM   #158 (permalink)
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He is comparing the number of cases to the number of dollars and note that he has no link.
I'm not going to help you do the research, bonehead. It's all there, easily accessible. You just choose to ignore the truth.
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Old 07-07-2006, 04:40 PM   #159 (permalink)
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: and note that he has no link.
I'm pretty sure the missing link has been found.
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But a set fixed amount says that if the parent is sick or fired then they still owe the full fixed set amount when they have nothing to pay.
Okay, I see what you mean.

But if you run into hard times, all you have to do is go back to court and get the child support reduced. I mean, certainly you have to show that you didn't just quit your job to avoid paying child support, but if your hardship is legitimate, the courts will reduce your payments.
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