Jail/Prisons & Insanity.

Originally Posted by harleygirl

Well, let's see..........ex bought a new home that is almost waterfront, a new boat, a new car, very expensive golf clubs, and a very large multi-carat ring for new wifey, and of course I forgot about the week in Bermuda. So, for $280 a week I want to draw blood?? I agreed to that price because our divorce was friendly! Did I take him to court for more $$ and because he is behind? No!! Am I drawing blood?? No!! If I want to take that $280 a month and spend it at Abercrome, so what?! Trust me, the ex is not even close to being penniless. Since we are friendly, and I am re-married and do not need the $$, I do not nag him. But, if I had an ex like you, I would take him to the cleaners.

That may be true but the separated parent is not here speaking for himself, so we can only speak about what evidence is before us and about the general problems and not personal accounts.

Like we have many if not hundreds of parents in SMC and thousands throughout Maryland of parents that are locked up in jail (coming and going) because they are too poor to pay the unjust demands, and maybe those custodials are claiming that those parents in jail are really rich and just acting poor while in jail which would be rediculous. But even if those custodials are not claiming falsely that their children's separated parents that we have in our jails are really secretly rich - then the law is treating the parents that way, because the law right now has parents in jail that physically and literally can not pay the child support demands and it is a horrible injustice to society and to families to keep this senseless injustice going on.

[KCM]

Originally Posted by JPC, Sr.

Everybody in this world has a hard time with money. Even the Queen of Britain has to accept restraints on her buying and her spending. President Bush lives in a budget too. No one has enough and there is no end to people's wants. Thus the custodial is giving a false cry of need when the children are all fine and have all their physical needs already met and full as they are now, and all the custodial wants is fancier clothes and hundred dollar sneakers. My child support case is long time closed and done. Now I am trying to reform the law only so it will stop hurting other families.

How in the hell can you honestly say that all the children are fine and their physical needs are being met. Do you have statistics to provide to prove beyond a resaonable doubt that this is in fact true in all child support cases. You are becoming more of an idiot everyday if that can even be possible.

The only one hurting families are the deadbeats, like you, who are too self-centered to provide for their child.

Seems funny to me that you are quoting about how all the children's needs are met when you haven't been around your child long enough to have known that.

[harleygirl]

Originally Posted by MMDad

By the way, are you proud that your son has been inducted into the deadbeat club? Just like dear old dad: drugs and abandoning his child.

Originally Posted by harleygirl

It is true that we are passing this horrible system onto our children's children and it needs to be stopped now before we hurt more families.

Originally Posted by KCM

How in the hell can you honestly say that all the children are fine and their physical needs are being met. Do you have statistics to provide to prove beyond a resaonable doubt that this is in fact true in all child support cases.

I have honestly traveled all around the USA and I have lived at least for a while in more then half of all 50 States and there are no hungry dying children anywhere to be seen.

The burden of proof really lies with those that claim that the legalized force of child support is justified to help children when in fact there are no needy children to be found anywhere. None anywhere at all. Therefore there is none to show as proof because it is not true. That is the proof in that all of the children do already have all of their physical needs met already.

[KCM]

Originally Posted by JPC, Sr.

I have honestly traveled all around the USA and I have lived at least for a while in more then half of all 50 States and there are no hungry dying children anywhere to be seen.

The burden of proof really lies with those that claim that the legalized force of child support is justified to help children when in fact there are no needy children to be found anywhere. None anywhere at all. Therefore there is none to show as proof because it is not true. That is the proof in that all of the children do already have all of their physical needs met already.

Since you are so good at posting links to support your comments, please post a link to each of the 50 states you are claiming where there are no dying or hungry children. Oh wait...that's right. The government makes sure that the children are not starving when the deadbeat walks out and makes no effort to support that child. You are pathetic.

[harleygirl]

Originally Posted by KCM

Since you are so good at posting links to support your comments, please post a link to each of the 50 states you are claiming where there are no dying or hungry children. Oh wait...that's right. The government makes sure that the children are not starving when the deadbeat walks out and makes no effort to support that child. You are pathetic.

KCM, I you.........

[Sharon (Premo)]

Originally Posted by JPC, Sr.

there are no needy children to be found anywhere. None anywhere at all. Therefore there is none to show as proof because it is not true.

13,859,000 million children were enrolled in the food stamp program in 1995. (Source: Children's Defense Fund 1997)

29% of U.S. children under the age of 12 – 13.6 million children – are hungry or are at risk of hunger daily. (Source: FRAC 1999)
http://www.stopthehunger.com/

* 13 million kids live in households that do not have an adequate supply of food.
United States Department of Agriculture
* 40% of all emergency shelter food recipients are children, although they represent only 25% of the U.S. population.
United States Department of Agriculture
* Between 2000 and 2001, requests for emergency food assistance increased by an average of 23% in American cities, with 54% of requests coming from families with children.
U.S. Conference of Mayors
* Over 16% of U.S. households with children were food insecure in 2001.
Center on Hunger and Poverty
* More than one-third (38%) of families leaving welfare reported that they ran out of food and did not have money for more.
Urban Institute

# Children who are hungry are less likely to become productive citizens.
Center on Hunger and Poverty
# A child who is unequipped to learn because of hunger and poverty is more likely to be poor as an adult.
America’s Second Harvest
http://www.feedingchildrenbetter.org...acts/index.jsp

You were saying?

[hvp05 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by JPC, Sr.

I have honestly traveled all around the USA and I have lived at least for a while in more then half of all 50 States while I was running from the law...

:fugitive:

Originally Posted by JPC, Sr.

The burden of proof really lies with those that claim that the legalized force of child support is justified to help children when in fact there are no needy children to be found anywhere.

Pardon me, Admiral Asshat, you were proven wrong about this yesterday... and with your own link, even. I addressed the point with this post. Did you not read it or were you simply too afraid to reply? (Sharon's post is good also. )


Also, I have to say that my jaw dropped when I read your interpretation of harleygirl's child support story. For being so miniscule, your brain sure can contort reality in an amazing variety of ways. And you wonder why everyone calls you a retarded jack-ass.

[KCM]

Originally Posted by harleygirl

KCM, I you.........