Jail/Prisons & Insanity.

Originally Posted by hvp05

I'll bet you have never really been an admirer of the law. You apparently view our legal system as underhanded, vicious and excessive. Why is your vision so twisted?

I really am legalistic extreme. But I study law and how law is made and how it works and the benefits of law and I do not view our legal system as corrupt. There are some persons in the legal system that are corrupt and most lawyers are lacking very much in scuples. But I do know that the child support laws are corrupt and even an honest Judge and enlightened Court can not issue child support in a just manner as the child support laws stand today. It is because I am an extreme legalist that child support irkes me so very much.

Originally Posted by hvp05

How can you so frequently reference the Bible and sin, yet not realize that one of the GREATEST SINS is abandoning your child[ren]?

It really is not and the Bible does not make that a sin. In fact Abraham left Ishmael and the famous story of Solomon that said he would cut the child in half and so the real mother gave away her claim to her own child and in giving that child away was the right thing to do - per the Bible. The difference is that I actually read the Bible so I do know what is right and what is wrong while others only believe what they are told and believe that man's law is some how supreme and in the case of child support man's law is very wrong and it hurts people and families and it does not help children. That is the reality and that is why I preach it.

Originally Posted by hvp05

I would LOVE to see your case go before someone like Judge Judy. She deals with deadbeat scum all the time. You could put on your best performance of diversion and whining and she would shred it before you could even muster another

I have seen Judge Judy do her thing and she has the benefit of not letting anyone talk back to her. That is why other politicians do not come to a Forum even like this one because they pretend to be so high and mighty that us sheep are just to do and obey, but in the case of child support the laws are wrong so it now becomes a duty to defy the injustice and not to blindly obey it.

[residentofcre]

Originally Posted by residentofcre

Look some parents are just plain out bad examples.... and staying with the parent that is a bad example benefits no one....

Divorce is bad... living in a family when divorce should have occurred is worse on the children....

You are a bum.... right? I say that because you would rather hold your support payments [and not even put them in escrow until the debate was completed] in spite of what was best for the child....

What example would your wife have been giving the children if she stayed in the relationship after it became obvious that it was time to leave or throw you out?

You need to forgive and forget.... If you want to change the law... like I said before... you need to work through the system correctly...

I don't think you answered my post....

Originally Posted by Midnightrider

Here's the thing, most divorced parents can agree to a resonable and fair amount of child support in the separation agreement. The court ordered amounts are usually only enforced when the two sides can't come to an agreement on their own. I would expect that, with your attitude, you wouldn't be able to come to an agreement, and would then be subject to the guidelines.
So its your own fault you are in the sustem, paying what the master says!

All of our rights like legal rights and Constitutional rights and Human rights and etc., are fundamentally to protect the weaker or the minority from being forced to agree with the stronger or the majority.

The fact that some people have a nice friendly divorce has nothing to do with the real and unjust problems in child support.

Originally Posted by residentofcre

I don't think you answered my post....

It is because I find your questions incomprehencible. It has senceless judgements that can not be responded to. You glorify and justify petty divorce, you denegrade me on a case that is long closed, forgive and forget does not come from the Bible because no one can ever forget, and I am working through the system to change things by seeking the office of Delegate to 29b and that is no secret to you.

[Midnightrider]

Originally Posted by JPC, Sr.

All of our rights like legal rights and Constitutional rights and Human rights and etc., are fundamentally to protect the weaker or the minority from being forced to agree with the stronger or the majority.

The fact that some people have a nice friendly divorce has nothing to do with the real and unjust problems in child support.

It has EVERYTHING to do with it. If you could have been resonable you and your X could have come to an agreement as to what YOU COULD AFFORD. Instead, you say you can't pay anything and your X was left to persue you in court. Just because you don't like what the court ordered doesn't make it an unjust ruling.
I've been on both sides of this issue, and when it was my responsibility to pay i did, end of story. I don't think i deserve any extra credit for this, it was just the RIGHT thing to do. When my X was responsible she shirked her responsibilites just like you. I was understanding, and didn't end up putting her lame ass in jail, but if i hadn't been in a place where i could afford to do it on my own, you better believe that she wold have been sitting in the county lock up just like you, and that would have been equally RIGHT.

YOU ARE A LOW LIFE DEADBEAT RETARD

[BS Gal (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Flipside

Freedom is not and never will be free, the question is whats the cost?

Question: Where did you get your information that there is a/c in the jail and the windows don't open? There are certain areas in the jail that are air conditioned, but not where the inmates are kept. The windows open.

[Ken King (Premo)]

Originally Posted by JPC, Sr.

I really am legalistic extreme. But I study law and how law is made and how it works and the benefits of law

OMG Someone call for help, I can't catch my breath I am laughing so hard.

[residentofcre]

Originally Posted by JPC, Sr.

It is because I find your questions incomprehencible. It has senceless judgements that can not be responded to. You glorify and justify petty divorce, you denegrade me on a case that is long closed, forgive and forget does not come from the Bible because no one can ever forget, and I am working through the system to change things by seeking the office of Delegate to 29b and that is no secret to you.

When a woman makes a decision to change the lives of everyone in her family it is rarely petty... let me assure you....

You don't want denegration and then you bring this whole matter into a public forum. Even if your position is sound, the fact that you did not pay the support and you spray painted a public building, has tainted your argument. You had to know that using the "flaws" in the child support system would cause you some grief.

I never said that forgive and forget were biblical.... I would have quoted a scripture if I had. I hated my ex-husband for 30 years and once I finally forgave him, I found that the hateful events of the past started to fade as well.

Finally it is no secret to you that I believe you should pay the support even now and therefore you are in no position to bring this matter before the legislature.

Child Support is for the children. By withholding support you hurt a child. Sure the child may have been supported by another... it still hurts a child to know that a parent sets them second behind whatever "justification" happens to fit.

Divorce is a fact of life [sadly] but children should not have to be used as pawns in a game of "hurt me... I'll show you", they cannot defend themselves against that heartbreak.

Originally Posted by hvp05

I'll bet you have never really been an admirer of the law. You apparently view our legal system as underhanded, vicious and excessive. Why is your vision so twisted?

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I do know that others see the law different then as I see it.

Others seem to learn the law just to know what to do and what not to do and then obey the laws accordingly.

BUT, for me I sudy the law by asking if it is right or wrong and then I still consider if I agree with the law or not, and then I decide if I shall obey the law or break it or defy it or help enforce that law or if I will work to change the law. I believe that people must live by their own conscience first and foremost.

For me the law is our servant and not my master. The stop sign (or any law) is there to help society and it is wrong when it oppresses society, so some times a law is wrong (but never is all laws wrong) and wrong laws must be challenged.

This might be why my view of the law and the legal system would appear to be twisted in that I do not view the law as my master.

I think this is the best perspective for a citizen and especially for a lawmaker because I will only make laws that help society and I will stand against any form of oppression.

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