Dear JPC

[Pete (Premo)]

Originally Posted by residentofcre

That's why I love the forums so much... I learn so much.... and what you are saying makes total sense....

OK... so you and Pete say that making a point is throwing away a vote...

I believe action taken in the polling place is never throwing away a vote.

I plan on writing in my name. If I am the only one that does that, then so be it... but my vote will be to say stop ignoring the needs of the 18 Calvert County Communities that have roads to maintain....

If others choose to write in "issues" or "roads" or my name... their vote is not wasted either, IMO, because it says something.... just like going to the polls and choosing "none of the above" by using the "no vote" option... is not throwing away a vote.

I know I lost the Primary... and I know that I won't win a seat even on a write in ballot.... but the action is a vote... It's not used very often but it is available....

I ran for office because the needs of the people who live in 22 of the Calvert County Communities [18 of which maintain roads] are ignored. If a discussion [and eventually a solution] resulted from my action... then we won because we were totally ignored until this point....

I spoke with the other candidates about the issues facting the 18 communities that have roads... and they were totally ignorant to the problem or unwilling to look into solutions... I don't mean this in a bad way... I mean it's just been ignored for so long that no one knows there are real viable solutions....

I believe you are dead wrong and this is why.

Suppose you look at the candidates who are now running in the general. One of them, Candidate "A" matches your values and issues 80% and the other, Candidate "B" only matches 10%, you disagree on EVERYTHING. You talk 100 people into your silly "write in Tice" mantra and they do it, then candidate "B" wins by 70 votes. WTF have you just done with your silly "It's not over" write in stunt? You have elected the person you vehemently opposed. You have NOT caused "discussion" you have NOT "elevated" your road issue, you have NOT provided a solution, you HAVE handed the election to a person who is against 90% of what you believe.

I think your passion and activism is overloading your judgement valve. Not a good trait in a public official. Grow up and learn to use the system, this standing on the street corner and screaming like a sore loser will get you ignored long before it ever gets you elected.

[kwillia (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Pete

I believe you are dead wrong and this is why.

Suppose you look at the candidates who are now running in the general. One of them, Candidate "A" matches your values and issues 80% and the other, Candidate "B" only matches 10%, you disagree on EVERYTHING. You talk 100 people into your silly "write in Tice" mantra and they do it, then candidate "B" wins by 70 votes. WTF have you just done with your silly "It's not over" write in stunt? You have elected the person you vehemently opposed. You have NOT caused "discussion" you have NOT "elevated" your road issue, you have NOT provided a solution, you HAVE handed the election to a person who is against 90% of what you believe.

I think your passion and activism is overloading your judgement valve. Not a good trait in a public official. Grow up and learn to use the system, this standing on the street corner and screaming like a sore loser will get you ignored long before it ever gets you elected.

They say this exact scenerio is why Stamm got the majority vote. Had one of the other two candidates backed off... Stamm probably wouldn't have had the majority.

[camily (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Pete

I am going to have to disagree and I do not mean to rain on your parade or anything but geez. It is over and you lost big. Doesn't make you a bad person, or wrong, it just means that you had no support, couldn't convince constituents that you represented their views thus you were an unappealing alternative. We are not talking about a squeaker, a close one, up watching the polls late into the night while the lead switches back and forth, it was a loss by what, a 2-1 margin, last in a 4 way race?


The "real" issues, or just the ones you thought were important and were rejected by the voters? How could any reasonable politician/candidate try to publicly convince people to throw away their votes by writing in names that were rejected in the primary? Below you talk about how independents are cheated by the 2 party primary system, yet you advocate other voters throw away their votes by writing in someone who has no chance at all of winning?



Then perhaps that independent should do some soul searching and decide which party more closely reflects their personal values and join one. Being a registered Democrat, or Republican only means that you are restricted in primaries. You can vote for your party candidate who you desire or even voice your opinion by not voting at all. You are free to vote your conscience in the general.


I am not in Calvert, but if I was I have to say that your continued chant of "it's not over" and "write in Tice" erodes your legitimacy as a future candidate. To me as a voter a vanquished candidate who refuses to accept the results of a large loss with some degree of dignity indicates a serious lack of judgement and logic. Some see your "defiance" of the "establishment" as admirable. I see it as "disregard" for the will of the voters which is not admirable. It smells like "loony".

I do admire you in that you decided to join the fray and do something. You lost, hell every candidate has lost. But instead of wanking about it and causing people to question your mental state and driving them away in future elections, you should use the next 4 years to refine, reconstruct and repackage your campaign and try again.

My opinions only

What he said. Why don't you just endorse a candidate that has a chance? Those that did vote for you might join you and you will have still made a difference.

[Pete (Premo)]

Originally Posted by kwillia

They say this exact scenerio is why Stamm got the majority vote. Had one of the other two candidates backed off... Stamm probably wouldn't have had the majority.

Slightly different but similar outcome. So now we have a Circuit Court Judge who purposely lobbied the legislature and disenfrachised voters so he could win easy, elected to a 15 year term.

[Oz (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Pete

I believe you are dead wrong and this is why.

Suppose you look at the candidates who are now running in the general. One of them, Candidate "A" matches your values and issues 80% and the other, Candidate "B" only matches 10%, you disagree on EVERYTHING. You talk 100 people into your silly "write in Tice" mantra and they do it, then candidate "B" wins by 70 votes. WTF have you just done with your silly "It's not over" write in stunt? You have elected the person you vehemently opposed. You have NOT caused "discussion" you have NOT "elevated" your road issue, you have NOT provided a solution, you HAVE handed the election to a person who is against 90% of what you believe.

I think your passion and activism is overloading your judgement valve. Not a good trait in a public official. Grow up and learn to use the system, this standing on the street corner and screaming like a sore loser will get you ignored long before it ever gets you elected.

I think some of our best future politicians are those who are learning how to work through issues with our current elected officials. Elections give us an opportunity to get those who share our views and outlook elected. Like Pete said - if you can't find 100%, go with 80% or 65%. Politically active organizations like the Maryland Chamber of Commerce rarely have politicians who mirror their viewpoints and perspectives. So they rank them by percentage and endorse those who rank highest. Take your issues and do the same thing.

I can't believe there isn't someone who wants your 1000 votes that will hear your story and be open-minded about a solution.

[residentofcre (Premo)]

K... you have all convinced me.... I'll change the web site tonight....

That is why I love these forums.... Y'all are some of the smartest people I know....

[camily (Premo)]

Originally Posted by residentofcre

K... you have all convinced me.... I'll change the web site tonight....

That is why I love these forums.... Y'all are some of the smartest people I know....

[residentofcre (Premo)]

Originally Posted by camily

[Pete (Premo)]

Originally Posted by residentofcre

K... you have all convinced me.... I'll change the web site tonight....

That is why I love these forums.... Y'all are some of the smartest people I know....

Maybe we should run instead?

[residentofcre (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Pete

Maybe we should run instead?

And you didn't because.....