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Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

I fully agree! Men will use the word love to get sex and women will have sex to get love..

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

A girlfriend of mine used to say that - men give love to get sex and women give sex to get love. I thought she was full of it for the longest time, then I realized she might be onto something.

I have heard that for yrs ........

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

Men don't leave happy relationships. Neither do women.

Depends on your definition of "happy". People leave perfectly functional relationships all the time - they're happy, but they get the idea that they could be even happier, so they convince themselves that they're not *really* happy and go grazing. Most times the defection is prompted by....sex. No man (or woman) has ever taken a lover because they wanted to share cooking and laundry duties, maybe talk about current events and co-raise a few kids.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

Depends on your definition of "happy". People leave perfectly functional relationships all the time - they're happy, but they get the idea that they could be even happier, so they convince themselves that they're not *really* happy and go grazing. Most times the defection is prompted by....sex. No man (or woman) has ever taken a lover because they wanted to share cooking and laundry duties, maybe talk about current events and co-raise a few kids.

Well, I certainly won't discount the people you know and their motivations. I will say that everyone I know, make and female, where it truly is just sex, the last thing they want is to leave the marriage. They just want more, just like another person to go shopping with or play golf with or what have you. For them, it is just sex. Their marriages are perfectly functional and happy. They just want some fun and excitement on top of the sundae.

On the other hand, all the people I know, male and female, that have moved on, it has been about happiness, about deeper things and, yup, even the seemingly mundane such as sharing cooking and other day to day stuff. You yourself have talked about guys pissing and moaning that their wife just doesn't understand them. Well, what's that all about? It certainly isn't about sex or, for sure not just sex. Then there are the, mostly, women, who simply do not enjoy or want a man around. They are very happy without one. There doesn't seem to be very many guys that are truly happy without a woman. Functional, sure but, not happy.

Now, I will say I don't defend either group and claim 'THIS IS BEST'. I make these comments as observations. Life is a complex and interesting thing and what works for one person ain't gonna cut it for another. It just seems, in my experiences, the 'just sex' crowd have NO interest in ending their marriages and the folks you describe as convincing themselves they aren't really happy, may do better to put their efforts into making sure they understand why they think they're not happy and work to either recognize that they actually are happy or work to improve the things they truly aren't happy about.

However, using 'perfectly functional' in place of 'happy', if 'functional' was the measure of 'happiness' there'd be little or no divorce and a whole bunch of very unhappy people making the endless compromises necessary when functional, not happiness, is the goal. That would include people looking the other way if their spouse is one of the recreational sex types because, otherwise, the relationship is about function and people make that choice all the time. Are they happy? Not by my view but, again, people define happiness however they define it.

I just don't know anyone who left a marriage solely for sex or even primarily for sex.

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Originally Posted by withrespect

Alcohol Getting annoying people laid for centuries.

Thanks for the quote. Too true.