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Old 10-31-2012, 01:29 PM   #1
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Windfarms. The Brits are getting it.

I wonder when we will too. Wait..I know. When we too get collectively tired of wasting huge sums of public money on scams.

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I described the claim that it would be the answer to all our future energy problems as a catastrophic failure of judgment. I feared that windpower was stupendously inefficient and ludicrously expensive and that by falling for the greatest energy hoax of our time, the Labour government could be consigning Britain to a very dark future.


So unreliable are wind turbines — thanks to the wind’s constant vagaries — that they are one of the most inefficient means of producing electricity ever devised.

Indeed, the amount of power they generate is so derisory that, even now, when we have built 3,500 turbines, the average amount of power we get from all of them combined is no more than what we get from a single medium-size, gas-fired power station, built at only fraction of the cost.

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Old 11-01-2012, 09:25 AM   #2
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Environmentally friendly? I suppose so if you are blind! The greenies just ignore visual pollution of beautiful areas in the name of saving the planet.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:30 AM   #3
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Environmentally friendly? I suppose so if you are blind! The greenies just ignore visual pollution of beautiful areas in the name of saving the planet.
They ignore, or are incapable of understanding, the basic engineering principles that are fundamental to why wind power is a bad idea from an environmental standpoint too...aesthetics aside.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:40 AM   #4
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I've spent an entire election cycle waiting for someone to reference this guy Don Quixote - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia when Obama touts his "Energy of the Future".

Never happened. Never understand why.
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:24 PM   #5
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I was more focused on the economic and physical realities of converting flatulant to electricity. However, its still a pilot project; very small scale.

Progress is very dependent on what was for dinner.
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Old 11-01-2012, 02:02 PM   #6
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I was more focused on the economic and physical realities of converting flatulant to electricity. However, its still a pilot project; very small scale.

Progress is very dependent on what was for dinner.
This is being done in 3rd world countries now. Their "post-dinner" is fed into a septic system, and a pipe taps off the methane for cooking.

We could actually do that now. I'll bet that taping our own household septic system would drive a generator for a very long time.

To bring it into the 21st century, the methane could feed a fuel cell array.

We have access to power that goes untapped.
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Old 11-01-2012, 02:34 PM   #7
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This is being done in 3rd world countries now. Their "post-dinner" is fed into a septic system, and a pipe taps off the methane for cooking.

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I saw that every day when I was working in the southern rural regions of South Korea.
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:11 AM   #8
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Wind power has been around for hundreds of years. If it was a viable form of energy for large demand, it would have been developed as such a long long time ago.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:16 AM   #9
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More downsizing in the windmill bidness ....

Seadiscovery.com - AMSC Cuts Workforce, Costs, Citing Bad Wind Power Market
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if some capitalist could make money from wind power, there would be 1000's of turbines, it would not require Gov. backing
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