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Old 05-01-2008, 11:12 PM   #341 (permalink)
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Italian, once again you are assuming things. I am not a lesbian nor am I bisexual. I'm straight and I have an amazing boyfriend. Thank you very much. I just don't see a problem with other people living their lives how they want. Not everyone believes the same things you do and they shouldn't have to.
Either you are for the lifestyle or against it. Maybe you are not one of them but if you aid & abet them, you are just as guilty by association. They need to feel ashamed of what they are doing and you are not allowing them to. And, isn't your catholic church against that lifestyle?
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I have not been lied to or mislead. I do not follow a wrong or bad path. Just because you did all those things does not mean I am going down the same route. I'm a very responsible person. I grew up with family members constantly judging me. Once again, I don't appreciate your assumptions. I hate drugs cause I've seen what they've done to people I knew. I'll never drink to get drunk. It's just STUPID and I don't like NOT being in control of myself. I don't want to have sex until I know I'm ready and prepared for any possible situation that may happen afterwards. And I won't bang every dude I see. I'm not stupid. I refuse to live a life that everyone thinks I will live.
I am proud of the choices I have made and I'm going down a good path. I've been lead by many great people. The church has been the best experience for me and it does mean something. Had it not been for the church I would have lead a horrible life. Don't tell me it means nothing. It does. It has taught me my morals, it's taught me responsibility, love, peace, and happiness. Don't try to lower the meaning of my church to me. Not everyone who's lead a similar life to you will go down like you once did. Don't assume.
Ok then, other than your association with the alliance, I'm very proud of you!
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Italian; you are a senile, hateful, ignorant, and judgmental man, and you make me sick.
We HAVE a Christian club.
They hang up posters, as does every club. It's students coming together because they believe in something.
Stop trying to tell us we're going to hell if we don't believe in what you believe. I hope you go to hell too.
None of the clubs FORCE anyone to believe in anything. It's opinions. It's our right as americans. You have no right to try to force your religion on us.
You're the biggest hypocrite I've ever met.
Ok cupcake. You're just as "guilty" for enabling them with your alliance as Stephanie is. Just because you don't see it that way doesn't mean that it isn't so. There is a standard but you don't care to follow it so, love & peace to you. Carry on little lady.
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Also, I'm SICK of you trying to force us to believe in YOUR GOD. You can believe in what you believe in, but you don't have the right to condemn us to hell just because we don't do as you do. We all make choices in life. Italian, you made the choice to be a strict, ignorant, and judgmental Christian, and I choose to follow my own path, and support love, marriage, and pride. What kind of Christian are you? Isn't it wrong to treat people this way? I hope you get punished by YOUR GOD for this. You don't have to like gays. I just want you to acknowledge that they exist and stop trying to "save them from hell", and stop trying to make them convert to your beliefs. I'd rather go to hell than be like you.
I listen to others, I respect the opinions and lifestyles of others. You, however, don't. You think that everyone is wrong because they disagree with you and YOUR GOD.
I don't see how I'm "forcing" you to believe anything. I just make comments as you do but I have no way of forcing you to change anything you believe. Is your conscience bothering you? Then it must this God whom you don't believe in. Sweetheart, I can't condemn anyone to hell. It's something that only the individual can do. If you get there it won't be my wish or my fault. That's why I tell you the truth. You make the ultimate decision about where you will spend eternity, not me.
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Old 05-01-2008, 11:15 PM   #342 (permalink)
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Don't get attached to me hot pants. I like to do things that make the Bible blush.
I know it very well Tinker Bell. I only go for the women who'll take me into the bedroom, turn the lights down low, undress me, kiss me softly and then..............
















read the Bible to me!
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Old 05-01-2008, 11:35 PM   #343 (permalink)
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Ok cupcake. You're just as "guilty" for enabling them with your alliance as Stephanie is. Just because you don't see it that way doesn't mean that it isn't so. There is a standard but you don't care to follow it so, love & peace to you. Carry on little lady.

I don't see how I'm "forcing" you to believe anything. I just make comments as you do but I have no way of forcing you to change anything you believe. Is your conscience bothering you? Then it must this God whom you don't believe in. Sweetheart, I can't condemn anyone to hell. It's something that only the individual can do. If you get there it won't be my wish or my fault. That's why I tell you the truth. You make the ultimate decision about where you will spend eternity, not me.
Stop connecting me to your God.
Stop trying to influence me to believe in your God.
You're trying to tell us that our way of life is wrong.
It's wrong in your eyes and in YOUR GOD's eyes.
Not mine.
"Just because you don't see it doesn't mean that it isn't so."
I believe that's you're quote.
How hypocritical.
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Old 05-02-2008, 04:34 AM   #344 (permalink)
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[quote=ItalianScallion;2910946]On the contrary JB. There are millions of Christian ladies who love their men to be men and allow them to be women. Some of today's modern women don't always like it because they want to do what men do because they're unhappy or out of touch with their femininity. I call it "daddy wanted a boy" syndrome. They had a girl but Daddy wanted a boy and so he does "boy" things with her and she grows up favoring "men" things...Hillary is a great example of this.
Thanks for the kudos JB. Really, I am a fun & funny guy when I'm not talking serious religious stuff. I enjoy having fun and cutting up but, somehow, this subject rarely has a funny side.[/QUOTE]

I think you are halirous.
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I don't agree with the GSA in my school. Being gay is a religious decision more than anything in my opinion, and it is not the school's place to infringe religion on students. People feel pretty darn excepted as is.
How is being gay a religious decision??? Religion has nothing to do with it.
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Old 05-02-2008, 04:49 AM   #346 (permalink)
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I don't see being gay as a religious decision. Most gays distance themselves from church and call the bible a silly book. But I will agree that this type of club doesn't belong in our schools. Many of the public school students belong to a church in some way shape or form. Most christian religions denounce homosexuality. Although a few homos would like to believe their lifestyle is normal, you can't turn the blind eye to all the christian churches out there. How far can you drive without passing a christian church, whether it be catholic, baptist, methodist, or the church of what's happening now? Actually, I think many other non christian religions are against this type of perversion as well. In some cultures, you are still subject to the death sentence for being a homo. There are also many people who aren't religious at all who don't agree with the homo lifestyle. If you think about it, it really is kinda gross.

The majority of people in this country don't believe the gay lifestyle is normal, despite the pressure from the liberals and fear of being politically correct. We are told to smile and say nothing. The more the gays try to normalize their perversion, the more vigilent I must be as a parent to point out to my kids the problem with this behavior. As a group of parents belonging to the Catholic Church, we are always challenged to teach our kids the way we know is right, not the way the liberals want us to.

It is not the same as the black thing. It doesn't mean we (millions of people) are bigots. It means that we have defined moral values that different from yours. So, if you don't like it, TOO BAD!

Step right up folks, hurry get your front row seat, we have a real smart one here in ring three!
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Why can't you accept that there is a God? Why must everyone argue that we can't know Him, when He came here to earth so that we could know Him? And He does have laws for dealing with your wife cheating on you. (You mean your girlfriend). He said exactly that: You can't cheat on your spouse. The devil is the one who wants you to think that man changed God's word over the years when, actually, it has remained unchanged for thousands of years. Watch who you listen to.
Because not everyone has a Belief structure.

Just because you have a Belief structure, it doesnt mean you follow the same "God" as the guy next door.

Some even follow an Entity that you call "Satan", sorry, but their beliefs are just as valid.
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Old 05-02-2008, 09:29 AM   #348 (permalink)
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They need to feel ashamed of what they are doing and you are not allowing them to.
Spoken as our lord and saviour would have.

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I doubt if I've ever heard anyone more holier then thou and condescending in my life, who has also completely missed the point of the bible.
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God made mankind in his likeness not animals. Some animals eat their young are you advocating that position now?
First, your changing the argument, Homosexuality is natural, it's just not a means to propogate the species.

Second your above comments are a Strawman argument, they are not pertinent to the discussion, but once it was pointed out that Homosexuality is natural, you had to change the direction of the discussion.

Humans do eat each other, they do kill each other, they do fight over who is the leader of their gang, they do fight in packs. Sound familiar?

It doesnt matter, I didn't say a word about humans having to behave like animals, truth is that humans ARE animals, just another species on Earth. Yes we have built/created items and societies far beyond what any other species did, but that doesn't mean we don't still have a lot in common with them. Chimps have been observed to murder rivals and wage war on neighboring band killing and take captives as slaves and they are just as brutal about it as humans... the battles fought by colonies of ants and termites make the wars committed by humans and other primate pale in comparison

Since it is established that Homosexuality occurs in animals, is it a natural behaviour in animals but in humans it's just 'the work of the devil'?
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First, your changing the argument, Homosexuality is natural, it's just not a means to propogate the species.

Second your above comments are a Strawman argument, they are not pertinent to the discussion, but once it was pointed out that Homosexuality is natural, you had to change the direction of the discussion.

Humans do eat each other, they do kill each other, they do fight over who is the leader of their gang, they do fight in packs. Sound familiar?

It doesnt matter, I didn't say a word about humans having to behave like animals, truth is that humans ARE animals, just another species on Earth. Yes we have built/created items and societies far beyond what any other species did, but that doesn't mean we don't still have a lot in common with them. Chimps have been observed to murder rivals and wage war on neighboring band killing and take captives as slaves and they are just as brutal about it as humans... the battles fought by colonies of ants and termites make the wars committed by humans and other primate pale in comparison

Since it is established that Homosexuality occurs in animals, is it a natural behaviour in animals but in humans it's just 'the work of the devil'?
From your evolutionary position you can say we are animals. But the reality is we don't live like animals. I don't know of any civilized people that eat each other ( maybe in your house) . Rational, thinking people have been given reason. So we set up rules that govern our behavior and punish those who don't live up to them. I am sure you would agree...so we are not animals. In the animal world is their packs and leaders and behavior modification? Yes. That has nothing to do with humans. And the points I mentioned about animal homosexuality(which you did not include in your response) our valid. Like I have said earliar..there are many gay people who choose to live that way. They want the choice on how to live their sexual life. If it feels good they want the freedom to choose. And lastly you said
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First, your changing the argument, Homosexuality is natural, it's just not a means to propogate the species.
In the atheist/evolutionary survival of the fittest worldview every species protects it's self and is wired to continue the propagation of it's own kind. This is observed in animal life. If we are just animals and homosexuality is natural, then it's a self defeating trait since it can NOT reproduce which is the ultimate goal of animals.
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