Rude Drivers

[Ken King (Premo)]

Geekboy,

First you say you were 95% backed out, then you say you were all the way, which is it or don't you know?  Seems if you are unsure of what you were doing you shouldn't be #####ing about what someone else was doing.

[geekboy]

95% backed out means brakes applied at or very close to a complete stop before shifting into forward. #

Either way he was going to fast for parking lot driving.  

You demonstrate the "maryland attitude" very well. #

(Edited by geekboy at 7:23 pm on Feb. 8, 2002)

[Ken King (Premo)]

Geekboy,

95% backed out means you have 5% still in the parking space.  If you had completely exited the space and were in the process of shifting into forward then you were on the travel portion of the lot.  The person who offended you should have stopped behind you and allowed you to move on.  I am only basing my opinion on what you provided and it is apparent to me that you are unsure of what happened other then the ruffling of your feathers.  Lighten up Slick, we all have to SHARE these roads and occasionally you'll run into an idiot that is too busy doing whatever they are doing instead of paying attention to operating the vehicle.  If this gets your panties all knotted up I can only imagine what a real problem does to you.  BTW if you have a problem with my attitude you can just head back to where you came from.  I won't lose any sleep over it and who knows you might be happier.   Also, please define what a Maryland attitude is, I'm interested in you perspective of this classification.

[geekboy]

I guess I didnt do a very good job explaining backed out, #I was considering it the whole process, #100% backed out would have ment I was going forward. #

The maryland attitude was described to me by a "naitive St Marys Girl" she was upset with the men of St Marys. #Saying they all drive arround in a Camaro or Mustang with decals on their rear windows that say something #like "NuffSaid" or "Can't Catch Me". #They often have kids that they don't claim and refuse to pay child support. #Oh yea she also said they all think they are Eminem. #

I really didnt believe it for a while then I realized that she was right. #

Don't get me wrong there are plenty of great people here, but the jerks just tend to show up better or get away with more than what I am use to. #

I think it also includes the utter discontempt people have for those that transfered to PAX from another base due to the BRAC.  Those that came from Warminster and Trenton do not get the same treatment as others do at PAX.  


(Edited by geekboy at 8:07 pm on Feb. 8, 2002)

[Ken King (Premo)]

Okay, so it’s a difference of what is meant. #Enough of that, I’ll defer to your meaning. #

As to the Maryland attitude you might want to actually meet some more local folk. #An upset woman describing the attitude in such a general way is likely to be tainted. #While I have an older high powered vehicle I don’t sport around with decals blazing, stereo thumping, doing burn-outs, or the such. #I will admit to airing out the motor on occasion, but I know where to go to do that and it is off state maintained property. #I also have taken care of my children, was awarded custody by the court when I divorced (from a native St. Mary’s County woman), and continue to help them even though they are full grown. #During the period I was separated I paid my child support and alimony every month. #I had to work an additional job to keep our heads above water but I did it. #I even paid rehabilitative alimony for three years after I had custody of the kids and she was employed in another part of the state.

I disagree with your comment about PAX. #I have been down there for about 15 years now and I think highly of those that arrived from the closed activities and the knowledge and skills they brought to us. #Maybe it is just the group you work with, but I don’t see it the same as you do. #

If they are government employees and feel they have been treated differently they should definitely bring it up in a formal complaint to the MSPB, the local union should be able to offer assistance even if your aren’t in their bargaining unit. I sat on the early transition team (for the union) and welcoming the new employees and embracing them into the team was the top priority and at the highest level of our focus. If you want further information or assistance email through the link above and I’ll see what I can do, even though I am no longer active with the union (just a dues paying member).

[geekboy]

(Edited by geekboy at 2:17 pm on Feb. 9, 2002)

[Ken King (Premo)]

Geekboy,

I sent you a message.  You are right it is off topic.  Get back to me and we'll take this off forum.

[vraiblonde]

Two things: (because I hate it when ya'll mix it up without me)

1.  If geekboy was even only partially out of his spot, the oncoming car should have simply stopped, allowed geekboy to say "oops", waved and everyone goes on their way.  Those parking lots aren't designed for safe pulling in and out because visibility is usually poor AND someone parked by the lot entrance takes their life in their hands when pulling out.

2.  Anyone who says that St. Mary's guys are the worst needs to get out more.  Having lived and dated all over the US, I can say with some authority that St. Mary's guys are just as terrific or crummy (depending on the guy) as anywhere else.

That said, I think all East Coast people are partially insane because I'm from the mid-West where we aren't afraid to let someone else be ahead of us in traffic and don't get excited about someone driving slow in the hammer lane.  There are bad drivers in Nebraska, too - everyone's just nicer about it.

[Ken King (Premo)]

Vraiblonde,

To your point number (1).  Prior to moving a vehicle from a parking place to the traveled portion of the lot the vehicle parked is the yielding vehicle until it is safe to move.  That is how the law reads.  When it pulled out it might have been safe, then again the driver might not have looked, who knows.  This is one of those "I said, they said" issues and we only have one side of the story so without witnessing what happened can we determine who was at fault, no, not for sure.  Anyway, point being there are idiots out there that you need to be careful about, whether they are flying into a parking lot or pulling out of a parking space (Geekboy, I am not calling you an idiot, just making a generalization).

BTW, Vraiblonde, you using that seatbelt all the time now?

[vraiblonde]

No, Ken, I still feel it's my civil right to not wear a seatbelt if I don't want to  But I do insist my that kids are buckled up.

My point about the parking lot situation is that a little consideration is needed among all parties.  I know that I've almost nailed people who were coming out of a parking space when I've pulled into fast food joints or convenience stores because the parking spaces are too close to the entrance.  I'm anticipating them and give them some slack - I don't scream around them and give them the finger.  

If there had been an accident, I'm not sure geekboy would have been found at fault.  It depends on where he hit the other car (or the other car hit him).  However, I can say with some certainty that if the other driver had hit a pedestrian by screaming around geekboy's car like that, they would surely have been found at fault.  There's right - and there's <i>dead</i> right - nome sane?