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Old 12-06-2003, 08:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs up Child Support Assurance Program - good or bad?

Just wondering how everyone feels about this ...

Should MD implement the Child Support Assurance Program? This program provides single-parent families with a guarenteed amount in child support. If the noncustodial parent is unable to make the payment, the state will provide the additional funds to make the payment.

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Dad works at MCD ... makes $200 every two weeks. Can't pay the court ordered child support payment of $300 since he needs to have a place to live, have transportation, etc. Dad pays $100 and the state kicks in the additional $200. Mom gets her money every month and hopefully does not require as much public assistance.

Should MD do it or not?
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Old 12-06-2003, 08:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Child Support Assurance Program - good or bad?

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Just wondering how everyone feels about this ...

Should MD implement the Child Support Assurance Program? This program provides single-parent families with a guarenteed amount in child support. If the noncustodial parent is unable to make the payment, the state will provide the additional funds to make the payment.

Example:
Dad works at MCD ... makes $200 every two weeks. Can't pay the court ordered child support payment of $300 since he needs to have a place to live, have transportation, etc. Dad pays $100 and the state kicks in the additional $200. Mom gets her money every month and hopefully does not require as much public assistance.

Should MD do it or not?
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they should make a mandatory minumum based on a 40 hour week at minumum wage. Make them pay or toss them in jail. Simple. If they do not make what the court ordered they should adjust the support to match income but no lower than the minimum. the state already makes up the difference with TANF and food stamps. I don't want to pay more to make up for a deadbeat than I already am. Besides it is still public assistance whether the state pays her TANF or some other goofy named subsidy to make up the difference. Get tough, jail, bolonga 3 times a day in a cell that is 65 degrees. After a couple weeks of that you will see how fast they get a job and pay what is owed.

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Old 12-06-2003, 08:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Mom gets her money every month and hopefully does not require as much public assistance
What they're talking about IS public assistance.
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Old 12-06-2003, 08:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You can't deny that over 35% of American families headed by a single mother or father live in povery (www.tcf.org). This rate is more than double to rate for all families.

Families who receive regular child support payments lift half a million children out of poverty (Sorenson and Ziberman, 1999).


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What they're talking about IS public assistance.
Yes - but hopefully will require less public assistance and thus freeing additional funds for another person or family.
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Old 12-06-2003, 08:36 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Why should we, the taxpayers support these people. I didn't have any of the pleasure of producing these children, why should I have to support them. Sorry, the beeeding hearts have bled me dry. No one had to take care of my kids but me. Our society is turning into a (bum) handout , welfare nation.
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Old 12-06-2003, 08:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
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The state of New York has implemented this program on a large scale. Analysts studying the child support assurance program concluded that yearly administrative costs were $47 higher than traditional welfare cases, but it saved over $320 in cash assistance, food stamps and program costs recouped from child support obligors (http://www.cga.sta.ct.us/2001/rpt/pl...01-r-0767.html). The study also concluded that program participants generated more state and federal tax revenues.
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I'd support it if the recipients get sterilized and I got to smack the them in the back of the head really hard when they picked up their checks each month.
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You can't deny that over 35% of American families headed by a single mother or father live in povery (www.tcf.org). This rate is more than double to rate for all families.

Families who receive regular child support payments lift half a million children out of poverty (Sorenson and Ziberman, 1999).


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These statistics don't move me. Those 35% would live in poverty even if they didn't have children. By having children the simple magnified their poverty. They misuse assistance, refuse to marry or name the father to ensure more assistance while they shack up with the sire, have more kids to get bigger checks and otherwise abuse the system. The liberal "social engineers" can continue to practice their "re-distribution of wealth" voodoo and they will continue to take and squander. You cannot force someone to give a crap if they don't want to, I do not want to finance the effort to finance them so they can live at a higher lifestlye while they don't give a crap.

I do not doubt that half a million families are boosted out of poverty by regular child support payments. So do it ! Force these deadbeats to pay. If the state wants to take steps to ensure do as they do in several other states, force the noncustodial parent to pay the state and the stae then cuts the check. This way the state knows dollar for dollar who is paying and who is not. The minute they miss a payment, issue a warrant. We need to stop playing softball with these people and streamline the process. Do you know how long it takes to enforce a support order through the CSRA across state lines? How about get a contempt of court order issued ? How long it takes to revoke professional or drives licences? How long it takes to actually jail an offender? One word answers all these questions.......FOREVER. There is a new industry of private collections who will go after deadbeats now for a hefty percentage. Why is there a private firm that will do this? Because governments spend more time passing out money and not collecting it and they suck at it. State laws and enforcement are toothless.

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