Ranch Club Roads

[stsssn]

Originally Posted by Natron0915

Is that true? Did they really use road fees for their legal battles? I would have thought that was a no no...I thought road fees were for roads and the M&O fees were for those other projects...

I can say for a FACT that is NOT true. Roads money is only used for roads. Roads money was used for engineering assessment of GWW. That is what was used to justify the closure. Some may call that legal expense but that does not make it so.

[stsssn]

Originally Posted by ohsnoes

BULLSH*T! Still trapped, still no plow. No plan, no plow, no sand, no joy. Gross mismanagement is an understatement. Huddleston is a huge failure and doesn't have a clue unless Eney gives her one. I've been to meetings and seen it for myself. The BOD is a group of crooks, plain and simple. There is NO PLAN for snow emergencies or any other emergency. If there is an emergency on my unplowed street and 1st responders can't get to my house, the CRE will have a lawsuit of epic proportions.

Lawsuit.....that is the one term everyone knows really well. Have you been paying attention to the news from the rest of the state. Many residents are in the same situation. The emergency responders coordinate with plows if they cannot get access.

What is your plan to change things. Lawsuit?

It is so easy to sit back and complain when life is not delivered on a silver platter. POACRE is exactly like every other democracy. It is only as good as the voters are engaged. The truly "gross mismanagement" is the antipathy the community takes towards its own future or present for that matter.

Where you really expecting better performance and been surprised by reality?

Maybe some smart people will bless us with their ability to fix something for nothing. Until then we are dependent on ourselves.

[johnycarcinogen]

Originally Posted by stsssn

I can say for a FACT that is NOT true. Roads money is only used for roads. Roads money was used for engineering assessment of GWW. That is what was used to justify the closure. Some may call that legal expense but that does not make it so.

Nobody knows who you are so how do we know you arent in kahoots with eney? you could be benefitting from the misfortune of the rest of us.

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Originally Posted by johnycarcinogen

Nobody knows who you are so how do we know you arent in kahoots with eney? you could be benefitting from the misfortune of the rest of us.

Some people that know me say I am in kahoots but that is only true when I disagree with them, I distress most people. I do not have a side other than my own and I am not passionate about it. I have lived in CRE 5 years and just retired from the military. I always wanted to get involved with the community. Spend some time, get to know my neighbors and contribute. I traveled so much in the past I relied on everyone else to spend the time and learn the facts. I started volunteering a year ago. I got involved because of the forums. I do not have an agenda other than improving property values and I do not know or spend time with anyone on the BOD or POACRE staff. I do not live near the airport, cliffs or lake and my road is not paved.

My job is an analyst. I look at data and find trends which is turned into information then knowledge. I approach POACRE the same way.

I do not see how anyone benefits from misfortune.

I would be happy to get to know everyone and address their concerns. From what I have seen the biggest issue is people do not understand how a bureaucracy works or Roberts rules. They also want things dealt with immediately. POACRE does not have a rational plan and they get attacked by others that also do not have a rational plan. Without a plan no one can be held accountable but I do not see how someone benefits. It seems as if everyone just does what is in front of them at the time and it works out however it works out.

[Natron0915]

Originally Posted by stsssn

I can say for a FACT that is NOT true. Roads money is only used for roads. Roads money was used for engineering assessment of GWW. That is what was used to justify the closure. Some may call that legal expense but that does not make it so.

Okay, Thanks for clearing that up. I would be curious to see the what the plan forward is for GWW, based on what the engineering assessment said. Or is it too soon for a plan? One of your other posts mentioned wanting to raise property values, well I suspect a large # of properties, including mine are now worth less because of the limited access, and lost ease of access to the beach. Because of that I am anxious to hear what the BOD plans to do.

[High EGT]

Last night I saw for the first time a plow on my street. Whats amazed me is the driver rather than widen the path already established he just dropped the blade on already moved snow which sort of defeated the purpose for plowing our road so as to allow travel in either direction

[stsssn]

Originally Posted by Natron0915

Okay, Thanks for clearing that up. I would be curious to see the what the plan forward is for GWW, based on what the engineering assessment said. Or is it too soon for a plan? One of your other posts mentioned wanting to raise property values, well I suspect a large # of properties, including mine are now worth less because of the limited access, and lost ease of access to the beach. Because of that I am anxious to hear what the BOD plans to do.

Don't wait and see. I think the plan is evolving due to the State legislature getting involved. One of the problems is members do not come to the board and make their issues known. Every time I have seen a member come forward their issue is addressed. BUT, there have only been a few instances over the last year.

When your property value suffers so does mine. We are all in the same boat as far as that goes. That is why helping the cliffs indirectly helps everyone. They are the most valued properties in CRE. If they drop significantly it will effect all of us even more so than the foreclosures.

Originally Posted by stsssn

Lawsuit.....that is the one term everyone knows really well. Have you been paying attention to the news from the rest of the state. Many residents are in the same situation. The emergency responders coordinate with plows if they cannot get access.

What is your plan to change things. Lawsuit?

It is so easy to sit back and complain when life is not delivered on a silver platter. POACRE is exactly like every other democracy. It is only as good as the voters are engaged. The truly "gross mismanagement" is the antipathy the community takes towards its own future or present for that matter.

Where you really expecting better performance and been surprised by reality?

Maybe some smart people will bless us with their ability to fix something for nothing. Until then we are dependent on ourselves.

Is your road still untouched? Have the plows come and cleared you out yet?

[stsssn]

Originally Posted by shiki

Is your road still untouched? Have the plows come and cleared you out yet?

My road was plowed yesterday afternoon. My neighbor started clearing with his plow and bobcat yesterday morning. I am not positive it was CRE that did it. It is still completely iced over.

We had three neighbors get their cars stuck and had to dig them out and get other neighbors with 4WD and chains to pull them. I have been very proud to live in this neighborhood this week.

Can we secede from POACRE?

Are we a microcosm of POACRE? I hope so.

[Baywatchv8]

Originally Posted by rigz1381

Yes. Lets all grab a shovel and dig out our roads. That's the logical thing to do. Its not like we pay money to have that done...oh wait...that's right, we do pay money for them to clear our roads!!

I think they have so far done and amazing job clearing the roads and have little to no complaints. I think they might have messed up though late Friday night plowing the roads BEFORE all the sleet/freezing rain hit the ground. My road had 3 inches of ice packed down on it that the plows could not even touch yesterday.

Pleae just think about your post, if they had not plowed there possibly would have been another layer of snow under the ice they couldn't have gotten up!