Please Help Me ID This Snake! - Page 2

USWWarrior · 07-03-2010, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Steed

corn and black rat snakes are good creatures to have around.

Sorry...the only good snake is a dead snake....

tonymdfl · 07-03-2010, 03:28 PM

An easy method of telling the difference between a venomous or poisonous versus a non-poisonous snake is to look at the shape of the pupil. Non-poisonous snakes all have a round pupil (in the center of the eye) whereas all poisonous snakes have a vertical elliptical (cat-like) shaped pupil. I have never seen a snake around here that looked like that before.

user101 · 07-03-2010, 03:32 PM

It appears to be a trouser snake. Very common in Southern Maryland.

*Bay_Kat* ^(Premo) · 07-03-2010, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tonymdfl

An easy method of telling the difference between a venomous or poisonous versus a non-poisonous snake is to look at the shape of the pupil. Non-poisonous snakes all have a round pupil (in the center of the eye) whereas all poisonous snakes have a vertical elliptical (cat-like) shaped pupil. I have never seen a snake around here that looked like that before.

Okay, who's going first to look a snake in the eye?

tonymdfl · 07-03-2010, 04:19 PM

I do all the time, last week i was doing a consturction job in edgewater for the smithsonian and I came across a snake curled up, it had slanted pupils... bingo copperhead, just one way to id them is all.

*DoWhat* ^(Premo) · 07-03-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Steed

An intelligent response, DW.

Damn, I feel special now.

But I still think you are a complete idiot.

Mikeru · 07-03-2010, 04:47 PM

It's definitely not a copperhead. The markings and coloring aren't correct. And it's head, while more arrow/diamond shaped looking than most non-venomous snakes, it is not fat enough at the base to be a copperhead (nor is the point of its nose pronounced enough). And from the pictures, I don't see pronounced "pits" behind the eyes (why various poisonous snakes like copperheads are referred to as "pit" vipers). Nor is it a Northern Water Snake, commonly mistaken for Copperheads.

It's definitely a corn snake, as you've been told, and a good fella to keep around. Please don't kill it. It's actually a beneficial creature to have around (keeps rodents and pest populations under control).

While harmless, it's sharp serrated jaw of teeth are still capable of puncturing skin but are used only for grasping its victim so it can constrict it to death and swallow it. The biggest danger from being bitten by a black rat snake or corn snake is infection since they eat rodents and other small creatures. So handling it with a field hook or golf club and sticking it in a soft cloth sack or pillow case when transporting it is recommended.

It's definitely a beauty. If I caught it, I'd keep it a bit.

aps45819 · 07-03-2010, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonymdfl

An easy method of telling the difference between a venomous or poisonous versus a non-poisonous snake is to look at the shape of the pupil.

another way to tell is if your cat was carrying it around and is still alive the next day, it's not poisonous

*Baja28* ^(Premo) · 07-03-2010, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DoWhat

Damn, I feel special now.

But I still think you are a complete idiot.

And I love Titties.

TigerTeacher · 07-03-2010, 06:14 PM

You have a baby black snake. So, the person who guessed that won.
It's not a copperhead and it's not a trouser snake, even though they are common in the area.

BABY RAT SNAKE.

It's not a corn snake, although they are in the same family. They are both the same genus. Genus = ~ elaphe

By the way, your cat can play with it but the cat will probably kill it.

Cheers.

07-03-2010, 03:28 PM	#12
tonymdfl EMT Member Since: Aug 2007 Location: St Marys Posts: 159	An easy method of telling the difference between a venomous or poisonous versus a non-poisonous snake is to look at the shape of the pupil. Non-poisonous snakes all have a round pupil (in the center of the eye) whereas all poisonous snakes have a vertical elliptical (cat-like) shaped pupil. I have never seen a snake around here that looked like that before. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Add post to Facebook
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07-03-2010, 03:32 PM	#13
user101 Registered User Member Since: Jun 2010 Posts: 16	It appears to be a trouser snake. Very common in Southern Maryland. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Add post to Facebook
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07-03-2010, 04:19 PM	#15
tonymdfl EMT Member Since: Aug 2007 Location: St Marys Posts: 159	I do all the time, last week i was doing a consturction job in edgewater for the smithsonian and I came across a snake curled up, it had slanted pupils... bingo copperhead, just one way to id them is all. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Add post to Facebook
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07-03-2010, 04:47 PM	#17
Mikeru Registered User Member Since: Jun 2009 Location: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Posts: 201	It's definitely not a copperhead. The markings and coloring aren't correct. And it's head, while more arrow/diamond shaped looking than most non-venomous snakes, it is not fat enough at the base to be a copperhead (nor is the point of its nose pronounced enough). And from the pictures, I don't see pronounced "pits" behind the eyes (why various poisonous snakes like copperheads are referred to as "pit" vipers). Nor is it a Northern Water Snake, commonly mistaken for Copperheads. It's definitely a corn snake, as you've been told, and a good fella to keep around. Please don't kill it. It's actually a beneficial creature to have around (keeps rodents and pest populations under control). While harmless, it's sharp serrated jaw of teeth are still capable of puncturing skin but are used only for grasping its victim so it can constrict it to death and swallow it. The biggest danger from being bitten by a black rat snake or corn snake is infection since they eat rodents and other small creatures. So handling it with a field hook or golf club and sticking it in a soft cloth sack or pillow case when transporting it is recommended. It's definitely a beauty. If I caught it, I'd keep it a bit. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Add post to Facebook __________________ "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" The pursuit of happiness != guarantee of happiness Last edited by Mikeru; 07-03-2010 at 04:58 PM.
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07-03-2010, 06:14 PM	#20
TigerTeacher Registered User Member Since: Mar 2009 Posts: 97	Baby Black Snake You have a baby black snake. So, the person who guessed that won. It's not a copperhead and it's not a trouser snake, even though they are common in the area. BABY RAT SNAKE. It's not a corn snake, although they are in the same family. They are both the same genus. Genus = ~ elaphe By the way, your cat can play with it but the cat will probably kill it. Cheers. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Add post to Facebook Last edited by TigerTeacher; 07-03-2010 at 06:16 PM.
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