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Old 11-18-2011, 04:54 PM   #1
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New street light is active

What is the purpose of the new light coming out of Sheetz between Rt 5 N and Great Mills.
I stopped at Sheetz and the whole time I was there the light never changed and it says no turn on Red.
Rt 5 North has no light to stop traffic to let them out.

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Old 11-18-2011, 05:46 PM   #2
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What is the purpose of the new light coming out of Sheetz between Rt 5 N and Great Mills.
I stopped at Sheetz and the whole time I was there the light never changed and it says no turn on Red.
Rt 5 North has no light to stop traffic to let them out.

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Street light, or traffic light?
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Old 11-18-2011, 05:54 PM   #3
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I had to go that way due to an accident blocking the normal light to Rt 5 and it was just flashing red, with the stop sign there. I don't think it's fully set up yet.

I'm guessing its purpose is to make it less desirable for people trying to miss the other red light to go that way. Take out the "optional" stop sign, and add a no turn on red traffic light = less clustermess during base traffic "rush hour" from 3 lanes merging into 1 (the two turn lanes and the people who cut in front of you from that side street)? We'll see how that goes.
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Old 11-18-2011, 05:58 PM   #4
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I don't think it's fully set up yet.
It is set up now, no flashing light, solid red all the time.
And there is no light to stop vehicles going north on Rt 5.
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Old 11-18-2011, 06:06 PM   #5
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It is set up now, no flashing light, solid red all the time.
And there is no light to stop vehicles going north on Rt 5.
Two new traffic signals planned

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A signal will replace the stop sign at the end of Old Great Mills Road. Reviewing the intersection plan, Groeger said, "It looks like it will run with the liquor store on the side of Great Mills Road."

When the light turns green for the liquor store parking lot, the light will turn green for those on Old Great Mills Road.

"When [Route] 246 has the green, they won't be able to go." However, just like at a stop sign, "they would be able to turn right on red," he said.

This signal will only be activated during evening rush hour; it will flash red at other times, according to SHA.
That explains why it was flashing when I came through. And also I guess they added the No Turn On Red after this guy looked at it.
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whatever................

Sorry... I was serious. I assumed you meant traffic, but you usually don't use the wrong descriptions.
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Old 11-19-2011, 07:40 AM   #7
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I was on Great Mills going through that intersection close to 4:00 pm yesterday.

It looked like it was flashing red when the two turn lanes from Great Mills to North 5 had the red arrows. When those lanes had green arrows then the Old Great Mills light was solid red with the "no turn on red" sign lit up.

I assume it will be timed to only do that during "rush hour".

FWIW it actually seemed to help the merge of the two lanes heading north.
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Old 11-19-2011, 08:30 AM   #8
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The new one on 235 was operational yesterday. The new one on Rt 4 between 235 and the bridge is blinking yellow. Suspect it will be operational shortly. That's really gonna screw up traffic.
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Sorry... I was serious. I assumed you meant traffic, but you usually don't use the wrong descriptions.
Since DoWhat said the light never changed, I immediately knew he was talking about a traffic control light. I've never seen a street light change color.
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Old 11-20-2011, 09:59 AM   #10
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To stop the idiots that are in a rush that want to jump ahead and cut people off. That way was supposed to be used for people coming out of sheets, not a short cut for impatient people. They should of just cut right turn off completely there, but they won't because of emergency vehicles.

"State highway analysis showed there was an average of 924 right turns a day from Great Mills Road onto northbound Route 5 between 4 and 5 p.m. Added to that were 115 right turns from Old Great Mills Road."

If you think this light is a bad idea or upsets you, then obviously you were the one that always tried to use that as a shortcut.
"but they won't because of emergency vehicles."
I'm not disagreeing that this is one of the reasons SHA has given for not shutting off that road at the intersection, but I have to wonder just how many emergency vehicles use that road to go north on Rt 5? Wouldn't it have been easier to just put up a sign at the farthest entrance to Sheetz on Old Great Mills Road that says, "Emergency Vehicles Only Beyond This Point", with an emergency activated red light on 5 North, like the one at the Hollywood Fire Department?
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