Man with shotgun holding kids

[tom88]

Originally Posted by MMM_donuts

Wasn't there a story a few months back about a man shooting a teenager in the leg for being on his property and vandalizing it or something?

And getting into a lot of trouble for it?

There was a story about a man shooting a college student in the leg after the college student came into his house. The man shot the college student outside of his house and only the college kid got in trouble.

[tom88]

Originally Posted by BigBlue

Then you would get in trouble.

You haven't been paying much attention huh?

[kom526]

Originally Posted by tom88

Okay, so you are basing this on what the mothers said in the newspaper, which is what I thought. The homeowner said the young man was on his property and the young man was found in the middle of the mans yard by the police when they arrived.

It is very hard for me to believe a man happened to be sitting out on his back porch with his gun....waiting for this young man to walk down this path....then he just happend to call the young man onto his property and lay him down on the ground and call the police because.......Oh..So we can have a debate on gun control and the two mothers can talk about an incident where a deranged man...three years older than their precious children walked into a school and blasted twenty six people away after killing his mother. Yea, that makes sense to me.

Oh wait....I forgot about the other mother saying her son heard the ruckus and came from his house...

And you are basing your statements on the gun owners statement and personal bias.

[MMM_donuts]

This is what j was thinking of:

http://www.thebaynet.com/news/index....story_ID/22471

On May 16 at 6:05 p.m. units from the Calvert County Sheriff’s Office were dispatched to the Solomons Landing Condominiums located in the Solomons Island area of Calvert County to investigate the report of trespassers.As Sgt. M. Hurlock was responding to the scene, he heard a single gunshot.Hurlock was then approached by an elderly white male, later identified as Charles Joseph Armiger, 66 of Solomons, holding a shotgun.
Subsequent investigation revealed that a fifteen year old male of Lusby was struck above his right knee with a single gunshot fired by Armiger.The victim was transported by Trooper 7 to P.G. County Hospital Shock Trauma Unit with non-life threatening injuries.
Armiger was taken into custody and interviewed at the Sheriff’s Office by Det. Sgt. M. McDonough and Det. R. Naughton of the Calvert Investigative Team.Armiger advised the investigators that he had encountered problems with a group of juvenile skateboarders on the Solomons Landing property in the past.On this evening, he stated that he observed 7 or 8 juveniles on their skateboards and heard them using profanity and banging on the doors of other residents.Armiger says that when he tried to intervene, one of the juveniles called him a profane name so he pepper sprayed him.The remaining juveniles fled toward Md. Rt. 765 attempting to leave the area.Armiger states that a neighbor ran after the kids while Armiger went back inside his home and retrieved his shotgun.Armiger advises he fired a shot intending to scare the juveniles but the shot struck the victim, who was on Md. Rt. 765 still attempting to leave the area. Armiger has been charged with first degree assault and second degree assault.Bond has been set at $50,000.Det. M. Fitzgerald is continuing the investigation.Anyone with information is asked to contact him at 410-535-1600 ext. 2772.
Statement From Solomons Landing Board:

Subj: Trespass and Shooting Incident of 5-16-11

A group of between three and five teenagers has been frequently seen trespassing on Solomons Landing property, typically skateboarding and biking on tennis courts, handicap ramps and generally “hanging out”. At its meeting on May 14th, the Board received its first report of residents being directly harassed by these teens.

The Sheriff’s Department is aware of this situation. Solomons Landing residents’ response should be limited to reporting such trespass as soon as possible via either 911 or 410-535-2800.

Our understanding is that last evening (5/16/11) a Solomons Landing resident and his wife were being harassed by teen-agers trespassing on our property. The incident escalated to the point where the resident allegedly shot one of the teens in the leg. The injury is not life-threatening. The Sheriff’s Department is currently investigating this matter.

Recognizing that we are working with the Sheriff’s Department to resolve the matter of frequent trespass, I believe we should nevertheless view this shooting as an isolated incident. Again, our response as residents should be to avoid confrontation, relying instead on the Sheriff’s Department. We can support the Sheriff by providing images from our surveillance cameras and bearing witness to events. Still, enforcing the law is solely their job.

[tom88]

Originally Posted by kom526

And you are basing your statements on the gun owners statement and personal bias.

No. My statements are based on the police report and where the trooper found the poor unfortunate youth, and what was said by both the youth and trooper that night. I never spoke to the homeowner, but the trooper did.

Not to mention the ridiculousness of a theory where a homeowner waiting in the shadows with a handgun for someone who might walk down a common way path.

What are my personal bias?

[BernieP]

Originally Posted by tom88

No. My statements are based on the police report and where the trooper found the poor unfortunate youth, and what was said by both the youth and trooper that night. I never spoke to the homeowner, but the trooper did.

Not to mention the ridiculousness of a theory where a homeowner waiting in the shadows with a handgun for someone who might walk down a common way path.

What are my personal bias?

BTW, the boy was in the yard because he was asked to come forward - at gun point - and lie down on the ground. Of course that's where he was found.
And nobody disputed the story that the man was sitting outside, on his porch.

BTW, the shooting of the college kid was an accident, the gun discharged as they were struggling.
Had the homeowner ran after the individual and shot him the outcome would most likely have been different.

[Baja28 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by BigBlue

Then you would get in trouble.

No, I would not. Care to test your theory?

[Lurk]

Originally Posted by awpitt

Letter in yesterday's Enterprise...


SoMdNews.com: How we think about guns in St. Mary’s

No real indication why this gets a letter to the paper at this late date. Must be litigation in the works.

[awpitt]

Originally Posted by BernieP

BTW, the boy was in the yard because he was asked to come forward - at gun point - and lie down on the ground. Of course that's where he was found.
And nobody disputed the story that the man was sitting outside, on his porch.

BTW, the shooting of the college kid was an accident, the gun discharged as they were struggling.
Had the homeowner ran after the individual and shot him the outcome would most likely have been different.

Exactly the point that tom88 is missing. The kid was initially on the other side of the tree line. Then the homeowner called him to come to the homeowner's side of the tree line where he was told to get on the ground. That's where the trooper found him. The kid was on the homeowner's property because the homeowner told him to come on to the property.

[tom88]

Originally Posted by BernieP

BTW, the boy was in the yard because he was asked to come forward - at gun point - and lie down on the ground. Of course that's where he was found.
And nobody disputed the story that the man was sitting outside, on his porch.

BTW, the shooting of the college kid was an accident, the gun discharged as they were struggling.
Had the homeowner ran after the individual and shot him the outcome would most likely have been different.

What really makes more sense to you? Does it honestly make sense that in the middle of the night, I don't remember the exact time but I believe it was near midnight, that the homeowner was out on his porch...with a gun...saw a kid on a path and walked from his porch, invited the kid into his yard, then called the police. Is this what you believe?