They cannot license our Constitutional rights

[vraiblonde]

I heard that on some radio program today when I was coming home from school.

The concept being that if we agree we have a right to keep and bear arms under our Constitution, the government has no business requiring us to be licensed in order to do so.

Sounds good, right?

Where it falls apart is that we also have a right to free speech, yet we must have a license in order to form a mass physical protest, such as a march or gathering on the Mall.

We have a right to privacy, yet must obtain a license in order to marry.

We have a right to interstate travel, but must have a license in order to do so while driving a vehicle.

We have a right to vote, yet must be registered to do so.

Etc etc.

I think most conservatives would agree that it's a good idea to require drivers to be trained and licensed. Also a good idea to register voters in order to prevent fraud. Most likely a good idea to make protest groups obtain an assembly license before they just start taking over every city street.

Discuss?

[letmetellyou]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

I heard that on some radio program today when I was coming home from school.

The concept being that if we agree we have a right to keep and bear arms under our Constitution, the government has no business requiring us to be licensed in order to do so.

Sounds good, right?

Where it falls apart is that we also have a right to free speech, yet we must have a license in order to form a mass physical protest, such as a march or gathering on the Mall.

We have a right to privacy, yet must obtain a license in order to marry.

We have a right to interstate travel, but must have a license in order to do so while driving a vehicle.

We have a right to vote, yet must be registered to do so.

Etc etc.

I think most conservatives would agree that it's a good idea to require drivers to be trained and licensed. Also a good idea to register voters in order to prevent fraud. Most likely a good idea to make protest groups obtain an assembly license before they just start taking over every city street.

Discuss?

This is a really stupid thread. That is all.

[DEEKAYPEE8569]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

I heard that on some radio program today when I was coming home from school.

The concept being that if we agree we have a right to keep and bear arms under our Constitution, the government has no business requiring us to be licensed in order to do so.

Sounds good, right?

Where it falls apart is that we also have a right to free speech, yet we must have a license in order to form a mass physical protest, such as a march or gathering on the Mall.

We have a right to privacy, yet must obtain a license in order to marry.

We have a right to interstate travel, but must have a license in order to do so while driving a vehicle.

We have a right to vote, yet must be registered to do so.

Etc etc.

I think most conservatives would agree that it's a good idea to require drivers to be trained and licensed. Also a good idea to register voters in order to prevent fraud. Most likely a good idea to make protest groups obtain an assembly license before they just start taking over every city street.

Discuss?

What's your take on our Constitutional 2A Rights? Ya forgot that one.

I think I read, if it passes; unless it already has; we will have to have a license to even own a firearm.
Oh, and if you are patient enough to cut through all the red tape and pay ridiculous fees, you MIGHT be granted a permit to exercise the second part of 2A.

OOOHHH!!! letmetellyou is dissin' Board Mommy.....

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by letmetellyou

This is a really stupid thread. That is all.

#### off.

[Hank]

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by DEEKAYPEE8569

What's your take on our Constitutional 2A Rights? Ya forgot that one.

I'm merely throwing it out there for discussion. It's easy for talk show people to throw around slogans and buzzphrases; let's see if they hold up under scrutiny.

[Bird Dog (Premo)]

Licenses equate to control. The reason government wants to license anything is to control and tax that activity.

Liberals want to control, Libertarians want to be free from that control.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by Bird Dog

Licenses equate to control. The reason government wants to license anything is to control and tax that activity.

I completely agree with this.

Liberals want to control, Libertarians want to be free from that control.

So when does Libertarian cross over to anarchy?

[migtig]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

I heard that on some radio program today when I was coming home from school.

The concept being that if we agree we have a right to keep and bear arms under our Constitution, the government has no business requiring us to be licensed in order to do so.

Sounds good, right?

Where it falls apart is that we also have a right to free speech, yet we must have a license in order to form a mass physical protest, such as a march or gathering on the Mall.

We have a right to privacy, yet must obtain a license in order to marry.

We have a right to interstate travel, but must have a license in order to do so while driving a vehicle.

We have a right to vote, yet must be registered to do so.

Etc etc.

I think most conservatives would agree that it's a good idea to require drivers to be trained and licensed. Also a good idea to register voters in order to prevent fraud. Most likely a good idea to make protest groups obtain an assembly license before they just start taking over every city street.

Discuss?

I think it's illegal for the federal government to force licensing of any kind on any of the above things you stated.

The federal government has no business in the marriage business.

However, as a logical minded person, if a state requires you to get a license to drive on its roads, then either get the license or don't. Driving is a privilege, not a right.

The federal government has no right to govern free speech and where it is made...but that's not true anymore. The Supreme Court says your speech can be regulated, such as the old yelling fire in a crowded movie theater bit. But there are larger things as well nowadays. Your speech is regulated, modulated and pc'ed to death. You either spout the status quo or you are punished, sued or fined and in some cases prosecuted.

At this moment in time, we citizens have the right to own weapons. Our founders wanted us to. After all, it was citizens owning weapons that made the American Revolution even possible. The founders never wanted a government so big that it was not scared of its citizens.

The Federal government doesn't care, and it is not scared and as I've said before, your rights do not exist any longer and Constitution is an invalid piece of paper. If you disagree, you are a domestic terrorist and a drone can shoot you.

So...the federal government can do anything it wants and you can B&M and nothing will stop it from rolling right over you.

[laynpipe]

Also, keep in mind that the law says the govt has the right to impose reasonable regulations on our constitutional rights. This pretty much covers the licensing issue.