Minimum Wage and jobs.

[Gilligan (Premo)]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

You're wrong. You're mental. The end.

So I wouldn't be going too far out on a limb if I suggested that its unlikely you two will be "hooking up" anytime soon?

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by Gilligan

So I wouldn't be going too far out on a limb if I suggested that its unlikely you two will be "hooking up" anytime soon?

Why would we do that?

[Gilligan (Premo)]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

Why would we do that?

Why..of course...you wouldn't.

Ever.

Look .....a squirrel!

[MMDad]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

And you know damn well that when someone puts their name on a product, no matter who made it, it is THERE'S.

Where's?

[MMDad]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

Oh, and to argue that the people that make Apple products are not to be considered part of Apple is mental.

So if I buy tires from Goodyear, does Goodyear then belong to me?

Dig in your heels some more and tell yourself you're winning. Great tactic. Your argument is beyond silly, and you know it.

Anyway, this sidetrack is stupid. The fact is that Apple (the company, not the supplier) tends to hire well educated people and pay them well. Those are the people who design and market the items that they then pay another company to make. Note those two words "another company." They do not own the factory, do not hire the people, and do not determine their wages or benefits. They pay X amount per item, whether that takes one highly skilled person to make or ten low skilled workers.

Since Apple is not the actual manufacturer, they of course have little reason to hire low paid people. That's why they pay their people well. Not because they have some desire to pay their people better out of the goodness of their heart, but because the highly skilled people cost big bucks.

[dustin]

Originally Posted by BernieP

What do you think happens if the government forces the franchise owners to pay his workers almost $2 / hour more?

After all the short term cost cutting measures, the Big Mac meal will go from $7 to $9.50

[czygvtwkr]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

And you know damn well that when someone puts their name on a product, no matter who made it, it is THERE'S.

You wanna argue that a Ford is not a Ford because a bunch of parts are made by someone else? A Dell is not a Dell??? Oh, that's not a Ryan Home, it's a Bubba's Framing home.

Come on.

The labor Apple uses has an enormous impact on their bottom line, what they do and don't do in the US and is very relevant to the topic.

No more so than you control what Scotts pays the people that package the grass seed that you sell.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

You're wrong. You're mental. The end.

You should put that on a bumper sticker.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

So, by your reasoning, Gary is responsible for your employees and financial status? Hell, at least you two are in the same country - the same state, no less. And he puts his name on your product.

You're wrong. You're mental. The end.

For one thing, no one at Gude Brothers is committing suicide. For another, Gary has long made fun of me for paying higher than average wages. For three, he could have LONG ditched me for lower cost producers out of state but he, unlike Apple, very much takes pride in the fact that he does business with, as you so usefully pointed out, LOCAL vendors that are, gee wiz, even in his own state.

Why? His reasoning is a whole lot different than Apples. We're pretty good at what we do.

And, lastly, not even HIS name is on the products. Why? because smart guys, like the ones at Apple, know how to do the least and get the most.

However, don't let that get in the way of digging your heels in.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by czygvtwkr

No more so than you control what Scotts pays the people that package the grass seed that you sell.

Scott's name is on their product. Not mine. Whose symbol is on the Iphone? The manufacturer in China?