St. Mary's gets sued

[Racingwolf]

Originally posted by czygvtwkr
Yes, but have you ever been to the zoo? Monkeys spend all day masturbating and flinging feces too. Would you condone this behavior in people?

I hate to tell you but there are people that do this too. I am sure there are a few men out there that would love to sit and masturbate all day!!!!

[Racingwolf]

Originally posted by T.Rally
Did you even read what I said? Are you so blindedly offensed that someone would dare to disagree that you can't even read what I wrote.

"the purpose of the pleasure involved is to bond."

One anonymous scientist does not a scientific consensus make.

Saying it is not a fact is like saying evolution is not a fact. Its not but the overwhelming mountain of evidence leads to believe it is closer to fact than fiction.

Go ahead and deny all that evidence (and the father of modern biology) based on what some scientist said.

No I dont have a problem with someone disagreeing with me at all, i am just stating the fact that you cant be sure if it is a choice or not!!! Even scientist dont know for a fact so how can you be so sure of it.

[czygvtwkr]

Originally posted by Racingwolf
I hate to tell you but there are people that do this too. I am sure there are a few men out there that would love to sit and masturbate all day!!!!

You never answered the question.....Animals also have been known to kill and eat their young (Alligators), kill other animals young (Grizzley bears) etc etc.

Just because an animal does it does that mean it makes it ok for a human?

I saw a study of rats, when placed under much stress rats that previously had heterosexual sex suddenly engaged in homosexual sex.......

You can't have it both ways, either you can use animals as a model or you cant, which one do you want to choose?

[mAlice]

Originally posted by czygvtwkr
You never answered the question.....Animals also have been known to kill and eat their young (Alligators), kill other animals young (Grizzley bears) etc etc.

They have also been known to adopt orphaned babies, or even steal other babies.

[sifl]

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[T.Rally]

Originally posted by Racingwolf
No I dont have a problem with someone disagreeing with me at all, i am just stating the fact that you cant be sure if it is a choice or not!!! Even scientist dont know for a fact so how can you be so sure of it.

Last post by me on the subject.

If you believe a person can be born a homosexual, do you also believe a person can be born a murderer? That they can't be held responsible for their behavior because of something they couldn't control? What is the difference? I'm sure there are plenty of scientists who have conducted studies concluding murderers are born. Are you going to jump on that bandwagon?

I'll stick with saying homosexuals are not born. There is a mountain to your mole hill of evidence that proves just that.

[mAlice]

You all get so excited about this!

[Tonio]

Is the cause of homosexuality really important to the legality of gay marriage? I don't think it is. I think the cause is really important only when someone makes the BS claim that Matthew Shepherd deserved to die.

[Aimhigh2000]

Ok, for T. Rally that says you are not born gay. I am an identical twin. My brother is straight, has a wife and four kids. I on the other hand am gay. Always have been, always will be. I don't recall ever making the "decision" to be gay. I just know that I am, and will be. So, even though I don't believe in religion, and I do believe more in Darwinism, fullfil my curiosity on how you know that we are not born gay or straight. I mean, I am the closest thing to having a clone.

[tlatchaw]

Originally posted by Tonio
I think the cause is really important only when someone makes the BS claim that Matthew Shepherd deserved to die.

On that I can agree. If Mr. Shepherd was killed just because he was gay (and it looks like that was the motive), then throw the book at his murderers. While you're at it throw the book at the rednecks that dragged Mr. Byrd (sp?) to death in Texas. Lock up and/or execute all of those monsters that you want.