St. Mary's gets sued

[BuddyLee]

Originally posted by tlatchaw
Can you see why I made the statement earlier about standards going to hell in modern society? If nothing is normal, then no behavior can be construed to be correct or incorrect. How far will you let society slip before you realize something is wrong.

You see we as an American society have come to make rules or 'laws' to have our society abide by so that it is not chaotic. Other societies have differing rules and laws and this is one thing that defines a culture. To say that something is normal is absurd. What is normal? Define normal for me. Great thinkers and philosophers have tried to determine what a society should live and abide by. The truth is that nothing is wrong. Over time we've strived to see what works best. We've come ignorant to the fact that there are many other cultures out there besides the American one.

[BuddyLee]

Originally posted by T.Rally
Last post by me on the subject.

If you believe a person can be born a homosexual, do you also believe a person can be born a murderer? That they can't be held responsible for their behavior because of something they couldn't control? What is the difference? I'm sure there are plenty of scientists who have conducted studies concluding murderers are born. Are you going to jump on that bandwagon?

I'll stick with saying homosexuals are not born. There is a mountain to your mole hill of evidence that proves just that.

This is another slippery slope of which no one knows jack. A great debatable topic though. I think it is somewhere in between. Many gay persons are born gay and many become gay. Just as many murderers are born with the mentality to murder but some murderers just murder after having a bad day or two. The scientific evidence can go either way and as I noted before no one really knows nothing at all. Just another question to plague the minds of many.

[BuddyLee]

Originally posted by T.Rally
Alright, this is my final post on the subject.

Its not for me to fullfill your curiosity. You have fingers and you have a computer, fullfill your own curiosity. You won't like what you find. For every study that says homosexuality is a trait there has got to be a fifty that say otherwise. As far as Dawinism goes, it is survival of the species. Survival of the strongest best models of a species by, ahem, reproduction. So, if one is born gay then one must be a weaker model of the human race because that individual will not reproduce. If one isn't born gay then one is just a deviation from what is natural.

Darwinism is not a homosexual's friend. Do you see the paradox here?

If you honestly think gay people are a weaker race then don't worry about them. Don't worry about them getting married. According to you they will cease to exist eventually. What do you care?

[BuddyLee]

Originally posted by cmdrfunk
I'm as pro-technology and for societal evolution as the next person but as long as you have the same greedy religiously led retards in power it makes little to no difference.

Tis true.

[Racingwolf]

Originally posted by T.Rally
Last post by me on the subject.

If you believe a person can be born a homosexual, do you also believe a person can be born a murderer? That they can't be held responsible for their behavior because of something they couldn't control? What is the difference? I'm sure there are plenty of scientists who have conducted studies concluding murderers are born. Are you going to jump on that bandwagon?

I'll stick with saying homosexuals are not born. There is a mountain to your mole hill of evidence that proves just that.

Show me a study that proves homosexuals are not born that way. Please!!!!!!

[tlatchaw]

Originally posted by BuddyLee
You see we as an American society have come to make rules or 'laws' to have our society abide by so that it is not chaotic. Other societies have differing rules and laws and this is one thing that defines a culture. To say that something is normal is absurd. What is normal? Define normal for me. Great thinkers and philosophers have tried to determine what a society should live and abide by. The truth is that nothing is wrong. Over time we've strived to see what works best. We've come ignorant to the fact that there are many other cultures out there besides the American one.

Hmmm. Nothing is wrong. Interesting concept in theory. So Naziism wasn't wrong? And can I infer from your position about other cultures that America's culture is inferior to those?

We used to have what I thought was a pretty good culture (yes I know, there were problems, but overall pretty good). But several times a year anymore there are huge news stories about people that feel trodden upon and they usually are blaming me because I'm the evil white angle-saxon protestant male that is guilty just because I exist.

Did you hear that scientists in Europe think that the sun has been burning hotter than ever for the last sixty years? They think that it might be contributing to global warming. Doubtless someone here will find a way to blame that on me, or corporations, or Republicans in general

[BuddyLee]

Originally posted by tlatchaw
Hmmm. Nothing is wrong. Interesting concept in theory. So Naziism wasn't wrong? And can I infer from your position about other cultures that America's culture is inferior to those?

We used to have what I thought was a pretty good culture (yes I know, there were problems, but overall pretty good). But several times a year anymore there are huge news stories about people that feel trodden upon and they usually are blaming me because I'm the evil white angle-saxon protestant male that is guilty just because I exist.

Did you hear that scientists in Europe think that the sun has been burning hotter than ever for the last sixty years? They think that it might be contributing to global warming. Doubtless someone here will find a way to blame that on me, or corporations, or Republicans in general

Don't try and subject a part of history of one's culture in how they actually exist today. Naziism was in they're minds correct at that point in time. Now it is considerably different.

We used to have a thing called slavery in this country, locked up the japanese, killed off the natives and forced them to move in unwanted places. We had a civil war for God's sake! To say that our culture is better than anyone else's is just idiotic. I am proud of the culture you and I live in but I am not going to say it's the greatest that is or ever will be. That's like having an a co-worker come up to everyone in the office everyday and saying "I'm the greatest f*cker here".