Why is society encouraging little girls that "brats" and "b****es" are GOOD things?? - Page 2

*Railroad* ^(Premo) · 03-04-2005, 05:54 AM

Y'all are talking about the decay of values in our society - you're seeing the results of satanic influences on our culture. It's very sad indeed and should be more than a little bit scary.

Chasey_Lane · 03-04-2005, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Railroad

Y'all are talking about the decay of values in our society - you're seeing the results of satanic influences on our culture. It's very sad indeed and should be more than a little bit scary.

It's a friggin' doll.

kwillia · 03-04-2005, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chasey_Lane

It's a friggin' doll.

You dress like them little dolls, don'tcha...

*virgovictoria* ^(Premo) · 03-04-2005, 06:49 AM

Often, I want to post a reply, but find to do so - to share my opinion - would be lengthy and invite rebuttal. I don't care to do either. So, in effort to provide input to this thread, I'll try to make it short and just say that it is just how I feel.

I feel that these t-shirts are just another example of taking things too far and exploiting what was meant to separate our country from others in the name of freedom. Freedom of expression. Without limits came expression without morality. Without morality comes decline as a representation of expression and degredation and so forth. Although this freedom of expression does not advocate, per se, the lyrics, the writings, the graphics and so on -- it is allowing, in some form, an increased tolerance for the behavior it represents. Psychologically, whether you want to admit it or not, the more you are exposed to something, the more it becomes accepted behavior, thus creating a monster out of this freedom while we were "sleeping".

Unfortunately, it is within human nature to be greedy. To out do, stretch things to the limits and test the boundaries of every law put in place that was put there to protect us seems to be what is all around us anymore... By pushing those said limits, it appeals to the rebellious youths, puts $$ in the pockets of the industries that make products and labels and such that produce and support all things that push those limits... Then when it comes to having to make a statement in a judicial setting, who is going to complain? The lawyers aren't... The parents are mortified - the same parents who let their children walk around in the clothing yet now want to blame the clothing on, for example, a sexual assault on their daughter...

Rambling, yes. Broke my intentions of keeping it short.. yes..

What do I think of these t-shirts? (Freudian slip - I typed T-sh!ts at first). I think that you ought to think about what you're saying when you let a child/teen etc. walk out of the house with a statement across their chest.

Should it be that way? No. But should a child have B!tch on her chest? Absolutely not. JMHO.

Chasey_Lane · 03-04-2005, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kwillia

You dress like them little dolls, don'tcha...

Of course I do.

*Jameo* ^(Premo) · 03-04-2005, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BuddyLee

X1000

aps45819 · 03-04-2005, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricky Racer

What we need to do is bring back some good old fashioned Tar and Feathering to the type of Jack a$$ politicians that thought outlawing Rap would be unconstitutional and infringing on the freedom of speech.

What I thought was weird about the Homies cars was that I saw them in Wal-Mart. The same folks that won't sell explicit language CDs.

Shakezula · 03-04-2005, 10:34 AM

You guys are kidding, right? Outlawing a whole genre of music? Satanic influences?

Nothing has "happened" to me, I guess some of my opinions are viewed as "libby" (a term I love so much) by most people on here, but I have independant thoughts and don't agree with something just because "my party" says so. :)

Anyway some rappers may sound like they're promoting drugs, careless sex, whatever. Not all of them are. I did a paper (and a lot of research) on it in college, when all this "gangsta rap" was becoming popular (about 10 years ago) and people were making such a fuss over it. Some of the rappers are trying to say it's NOT a good thing, so others will listen and not have to go through that. Some do seem to be glorifying it, but not all of them are.
example: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/jayz/meettheparents.html

You get "bad" influence in any music genre. Take even country music. How many country songs are about getting drunk?... Getting into fights?... Having affairs? Casual sex?

vraiblonde · 03-04-2005, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Shakezula

Take even country music. How many country songs are about getting drunk?... Getting into fights?... Having affairs? Casual sex?

"Third rate romance, low-rent rendevous..."

It's not rap music that's the problem - I like a rap/hip-hoppy style. It's some of the lyrics that these dirtbags write to accompany the music that's the problem.

It always amazes me that you can turn on BET and listen to some "leader of the black community" talking about how whites have a negative stereotype of blacks and how racist and bad it is, then the next thing up is some rap video protraying black men as ghetto scumbags and black women as sleazy whores.

I just don't get it.

03-04-2005, 10:51 AM

BET ain't the problem! It's Womens lib! What a boat load of crap that was!

03-04-2005, 05:54 AM	#11
Railroad ^(Premo) 500000 tons of USA Steel Member Since: Jan 2005 Location: Branch line Posts: 8,539	Y'all are talking about the decay of values in our society - you're seeing the results of satanic influences on our culture. It's very sad indeed and should be more than a little bit scary. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Add post to Facebook
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virgovictoria ^(Premo) Tight Pants and Lipstick Member Since: Oct 2004 Location: Isolation Chamber - Anywhere, USA Posts: 11,514	Often, I want to post a reply, but find to do so - to share my opinion - would be lengthy and invite rebuttal. I don't care to do either. So, in effort to provide input to this thread, I'll try to make it short and just say that it is just how I feel. I feel that these t-shirts are just another example of taking things too far and exploiting what was meant to separate our country from others in the name of freedom. Freedom of expression. Without limits came expression without morality. Without morality comes decline as a representation of expression and degredation and so forth. Although this freedom of expression does not advocate, per se, the lyrics, the writings, the graphics and so on -- it is allowing, in some form, an increased tolerance for the behavior it represents. Psychologically, whether you want to admit it or not, the more you are exposed to something, the more it becomes accepted behavior, thus creating a monster out of this freedom while we were "sleeping". Unfortunately, it is within human nature to be greedy. To out do, stretch things to the limits and test the boundaries of every law put in place that was put there to protect us seems to be what is all around us anymore... By pushing those said limits, it appeals to the rebellious youths, puts $$ in the pockets of the industries that make products and labels and such that produce and support all things that push those limits... Then when it comes to having to make a statement in a judicial setting, who is going to complain? The lawyers aren't... The parents are mortified - the same parents who let their children walk around in the clothing yet now want to blame the clothing on, for example, a sexual assault on their daughter... Rambling, yes. Broke my intentions of keeping it short.. yes.. What do I think of these t-shirts? (Freudian slip - I typed T-sh!ts at first). I think that you ought to think about what you're saying when you let a child/teen etc. walk out of the house with a statement across their chest. Should it be that way? No. But should a child have B!tch on her chest? Absolutely not. JMHO. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Add post to Facebook __________________ The grand essentials for happiness are having something to do, something to love and something to hope for.
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03-04-2005, 10:34 AM	#18
Shakezula Insert Lame Innuendo Here Member Since: Jun 2004 Location: up in here, up in here Posts: 133	You guys are kidding, right? Outlawing a whole genre of music? Satanic influences? Nothing has "happened" to me, I guess some of my opinions are viewed as "libby" (a term I love so much) by most people on here, but I have independant thoughts and don't agree with something just because "my party" says so. :) Anyway some rappers may sound like they're promoting drugs, careless sex, whatever. Not all of them are. I did a paper (and a lot of research) on it in college, when all this "gangsta rap" was becoming popular (about 10 years ago) and people were making such a fuss over it. Some of the rappers are trying to say it's NOT a good thing, so others will listen and not have to go through that. Some do seem to be glorifying it, but not all of them are. example: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/jayz/meettheparents.html You get "bad" influence in any music genre. Take even country music. How many country songs are about getting drunk?... Getting into fights?... Having affairs? Casual sex? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Add post to Facebook Last edited by Shakezula; 03-04-2005 at 10:36 AM.
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03-04-2005, 10:51 AM	#20
Kain99 Guest Posts: n/a	BET ain't the problem! It's Womens lib! What a boat load of crap that was! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Add post to Facebook
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