You won't be in today for work because....

[ladybug2004]

Originally Posted by otter

All govt jobs/contracts are like that, and they take it VERY seriously. We have to fill out our time cards daily at the end of the work day.

We are monitored here daily and no one better not get caught entering time before the close of the day. Several people have been sent home for three days w/o pay for doing this.

[Chasey_Lane]

Originally Posted by ladybug2004

We are monitored here daily and no one better not get caught entering time before the close of the day. Several people have been sent home for three days w/o pay for doing this.

And here's the fine print: If an employee is on a "fixed" worked schedule, the hours can be recorded in advance as long as they are corrected if there was a variation from his/her fixed schedule.

[Railroad (Premo)]

Originally Posted by ladybug2004

We are monitored here daily and no one better not get caught entering time before the close of the day. Several people have been sent home for three days w/o pay for doing this.

What a horrible working atmosphere! Sounds like one of my former employers, once named "Tracor." Most of the other employers in the area treat their people like people, not children. That was one of the main reasons I left Tracor.

[SamSpade]

Originally Posted by otter

All govt jobs/contracts are like that, and they take it VERY seriously. We have to fill out our time cards daily at the end of the work day.

Even non-DOD government employees? Like I said, no one here has ever done otherwise. And I've been here a really long time. I can walk down this wing and ask everyone if they've ever heard of a timesheet audit. Or if they've EVER filled out their timesheet every day OR submitted it at any time other than before the end of the pay period.

Heck, you should see how I fill out my activity reports for the month. It's the best exercise I ever get in creative writing. Since it has to be summarized at about four or five levels each time, I typically write a report for the month on about the *15th*. Since it has to actually cover work for the *calendar* month, and not since the last report, I always have to "guess" what will happen in the next two weeks.

[SamSpade]

Originally Posted by Chasey_Lane

And here's the fine print: If an employee is on a "fixed" worked schedule, the hours can be recorded in advance as long as they are corrected if there was a variation from his/her fixed schedule.

THANKS. That's probably the justification, I'm sure.

The REAL reason is, the timekeeper is an idiot. When I worked at EMA, they did all their stuff in one day - actually, in ONE morning. And it got signed off, because the timekeeper wasn't busy gossiping in the cafeteria or doing her nails. If the correct person wasn't there to sign off, there was a mechanism in place in the event they couldn't do it that day.

Having "secretaries" is a luxury, believe me. I hate having to spend half the day doing paperwork that used to be done by the secretary IF she was competent enough to do her job. I think part of the problem always was two-fold - they never pay enough to get good people, and they never have mechanisms in place to efficiently get rid of BAD people.

[Chasey_Lane]

Regardless of how it has "always" been done is not validation to keep doing it that way.

[SamSpade]

Originally Posted by Chasey_Lane

Regardless of how it has "always" been done is not validation to keep doing it that way.

Always Done That Way isn't an explanation. It's simply stating that there ain't nobody "watching". And because of that, I can't see that it pertains to us. You just can't go twenty years doing something illegal with 5-10,000 people, and nobody notices.

I think the rules don't apply in my case. The always been done that way is just what we call "empirical proof".

[fishinfool]

I just say I have eye problems...I can't see coming in today

[ladybug2004]

Originally Posted by fishinfool

I just say I have eye problems...I can't see coming in today

[redhead77]

do what some of the government people I have worked with do...take an entire day off for a doctor/dentist appointment